gurley, lincoln's minister, "doctor, will you speak?" he said a prayer for lincoln. and then edwin stanton pronounced words that really were immortal. and remembered wrong for the last 150 years. the secretary of war stood in this room and looked at abraham lincoln's body and said, "now he belongs to the angels." we remember it today as now he belongs to the ages. but extensive research has revealed that it's best remembered by the stenographer tanner, whose pencil broke, his only lead pencil broke as he was writing down what was said in this room, but he remembered that stanton said angels. plus it's characteristic of stanton's temperament, how he viewed his faith, how he viewed the world. he wouldn't have said something as profound as "now he belongs to the ages." i have no doubt that in this room stanton said, "now he belongs to the angels." people filtered out of the room one by one. stanton remained here alone with the president. and at that point, he took a small scissors or razor and he approached lincoln's body. and he cut off a lock of lincoln's hair. not fo

he was a fan of lincoln. i want to quote from what he said, because i think it captures so well the power of the lincoln image in britain. i doubt any statesman sunk into the hearts as abraham lincoln did. i'm not sure you in america realize the expense that he is also our possession and our pride. his courage patience, humanity, his trust in the people, his belief in democracy and may i add some of the phrases that he gave expressions will stand out as beacons to guide troubled nations, resolute in war, he was moderate in victory. misrepresented misunderstood, he was patience to the last. for the people believed in him all the time and they still believe in him. in life, he was a great american. he is no longer so. he is one of those great figures that there are very few in history that lose their nationality in death. they are no longer called greek help brew, american, they belong to mankind. and lloyd george's idea that lincoln was a truly global icon, has continued through the decades since 1920. in 1936

no one comes to honor lincoln. i might find one or two people when i sit on the steps of the petersen house and contemplate what happened. it is interesting. a couple of years ago, the parks service almost arrested me sitting on the steps because the guard across the street accused me of being a homeless loiterer, and i tried to convince them that i had written books and tonight is the anniversary of the assassination. i serve on the council of advisors. 10 minutes later, two squad cars rolled up. the national park service police questioned me and said, how do i know that you are not a homeless man who will damage the house? one of them came to his senses and rolled his eyes and asked me to enjoy the evening. i have had quite a time coming to this house, and sadly has been abandoned by the public for a long time, but this year will be different. lincoln arrived at the theater at about 8:30 p.m. april 14, 1865. the play was underway. he was late. no one at the petersen house noticed lincoln arrived. the street was p

lincoln. yet she did not attend the funeral in springfield. she did not leave washington, d.c., and travel with the train to springfield. why is that? richard: mary todd lincoln's life was one -- she had to face many, many tragedies and this was perhaps the greatest of all . her husband being assassinated next to her. and she was rightfully devastated by that. and was just not emotionally capable of making that trip. back to springfield. her son, robert todd lincoln was there with her. and he did, to springfield for the funeral. >> if you look on your screen there, we see some of the reenactors. you may have seen the tens of a moment ago. who are those folks in the tents and how long have they been camped out? richard: i think some of them have been here since last wednesday and perhaps that is when they first came but thursday night when i was out here, we came out after dinner. it was just -- a lot of the tents were up at that time, and as i say, it was a beautiful scene. it was almost full,

lincoln."s goin tell us what we're going to see today, what's going to happen there behind you and all around you this afternoon. >> well, thank you.reenactm well today, you're going to see a reenactment of the funeral of abraham lincoln in springfield 150 years ago. and it started on the square downtown and it will take is on probably a halfth hour for the procession to reach oak ridge be a cemetery on the north side of springfield springfield. that procession will be a there wi reconstruction or reenactment of lincoln's actual funeral. so there will be a number of divisions with reenactors in those divisions. you'll actually see a replication of the funeral herselieve yo that was put together by a local funeral home. i believe you're going to see a horse which would have been abrahamle lincoln's horse bob led by an african-american henry brown coming into the cemetery. and then in back of me is the receiving vault at oak ridge cemetery. and it is there that lincoln's aced body as well as his

lincoln. talking with richard hart, resident of springfield. you see some folks dressed up in uniform and costume. are these local re-enactors or people come from all over the country to participate in this event today? >> well that's a wonderful question. because i was out here two days ago. and a couple from orlando, florida, were here, and they were dressed in period costumes that were absolutely spectacular. and they were taking each other's pictures. so i offered to take their pictures together. and then that's where i got to have this conversation with them. and they had come for this event from orlando, florida. in fact, she gave me this funeral badge. i don't know if you can see that or not, that she had made to hand out to people in springfield. since then, i've met a number of the re-enactors who are from many of the mid western states. i met a gentleman from lancaster, pennsylvania, and his re-en actment group had come out. i met a gentleman who came with his military gun on a trail

here we have a depiction of lincoln as a family man with mary lincoln, his wife, robert titling lincoln, his oldest son, and tad. when lincoln would get away from the white house, in addition to going to the theater which he enjoyed, the lincoln cottage is where he went reflect as well -- would reflect as well and gather his thoughts. lincoln's enjoyment of six very in -- shakespearean literature helped him as a melancholy man deal with the tragedies he had. the lincoln family had four children altogether. eddy died in infancy. willie died of typhoid fever in 1862. tragically, tad lincoln would die of tuberculosis in 1871. mary lincoln loses three of her children. the only one to live to adulthood, robert todd lincoln. then with the assassination of her husband, quite tragic. mary lincoln is a complex, interesting topic. there has been interesting books written about her. the madness of mary lincoln written by jason emerson is one of the best works ever done that does justice to her. here we have president lincoln the mark of war showing a most four years of carrying the country through

lincoln. yet she did not leave washington dc and travel to springfield. why is that? >> mary todd lincoln's life was one -- she had to face any many tragedies and this was perhaps the greatest of all -- her husband the assassinated, and she was rightfully devastated by that. she was just not emotionally capable of making that trip. her son, robert todd lincoln was there with her. >> if you look on your screen, there are some of the reenactors. who are those folks in the tents and how long have they been camped out? >> some of them have been here since last wednesday and thursday night, when i was out here, we came out for dinner. a lot of the tents were out at that time and it was a beautiful scene. it was beautiful and the oak ridge cemetery gate the gate was lit up and across the road and across the road worthy tents with the fires -- were the tents with the fires and lit for the evening. >> we are to an expert on the subject of abraham lincoln's numeral. abraham lincoln died here in washing

lincoln is a huge -- if we only had antibiotic lincoln around. absorbed very easily into jim crow and becomes a hero for jim crow people. to be sure. there are enough conservative things within lincoln himself, that's why i said that song was a little edgy. he wasn't quite there yet with that song. there were enough conservative things that conservatives could later grab onto and say look at this. >> were the hutchinson singers -- >> they were trying to push him because i'm only saying as a tame version of that song, there were really radical versions of that song that was really abolitionist. you can find miserable versions of how the slaves are -- they are absolutely trying to push him that way. push his image, rather. they could not influence him. but just his popular image. yeah. >> does that imply that lincoln in life could not have created that national identity you talked about? >> could you ask the question again? >> is the implication that lincoln had to die to create this national identity in light with his program -- what he was going

desire was not to kill lincoln, it was to kidnap lincoln.and to kidnap lincoln during the course of the civil war, bring him to the south and trade him for confederate soldiers particularly towards the end of the war when the confederacy was running out of soldiers, on at least two occasions -- excuse me, i have a bit of a cold. on at least two occasions, booth went to try and kidnap lincoln. once when lincoln was going to the soldiers home in northwest and lincoln had too many soldiers, so booth stopped and didn't do anything. the second time, lincoln didn't show up where he was expected to come. how do we deal with this assassination? a good place to start is where it started. a rock 'n roll restaurant in chinatown. it's on sixth and 8th street. here it is again. rock 'n roll. -- wok n roll. i'm sure no one will be surprised that it was not a chinese restaurant and 65. in 1855, this is what it looks like. it was a boarding house owned by a woman by the name of mary surratt. today there is a plaque outside of it. if you go there, it says wh

he hated lincoln. this is just very typical among lincoln-haters. i attribute it to what i call the american style of acting. the super intense passions, total absorption in the role being played, and also what i call the higher law. i will talk about booth's father. it has a lot to do with his father. walt whitman, the poet, went and saw booth's father on the stage and was so incredibly influenced by booth. he said, his genius was to meet one of the grandest revelations of my life, a lesson of artistic expression, he had much to do with shaping me in those early years. there were two types of acting. one was called the teapot style which was very restrained and british where one had a hand on the hip, and the other twirled his hand. the other was what was became the american style which is very over the top. booth took this to the extreme, so much so that for example once he had to be pulled off for fear that he would suffocate the other actor with a pillow. in richard the third, he had to be disarmed in his salute. he would sometimes walk the stre

lincoln to ford's on april 14th 1865. >> behind me is the carriage that abraham lincoln rode to ford's theater the night of his assassination on april 14th. it's part of an exhibit and a project we're working with ford's theater on in their sigh a lent witness exhibition which opens up this month. april 14th 1865 was an incredible day for both the lincolns and for washington. news had reached the city that robert e. lee had surrendered to grant. the war was finally coming to a conclusion. that morning abraham lincoln has breakfast with his family. robert todd lincoln his eldest son, joins them for breakfast. he was at appomattox. he was part of ulysses s. grant's staff. and he was telling the story to the family about what had just taken place. the city has in celebration. and the lincolns themselves were celebrating and finally seeing the end of this incredible war coming to an end and all of the burdens that that had on the president. he decides that day to celebrate in different kinds of ways. one thing he decides is to go on a carriage ride with his wife, mary lincoln. and it's an

lincoln. yet she did not leave washington dc and travel to springfield. why is that? >> mary todd lincoln's life was one -- she had to face any many tragedies and this was perhaps the greatest of all -- her husband the assassinated, and she was rightfully devastated by that. she was just not emotionally capable of making that trip. her son, robert todd lincoln was there with her. >> if you look on your screen, there are some of the reenactors. who are those folks in the tents and how long have they been camped out? >> some of them have been here since last wednesday and thursday night, when i was out here, we came out for dinner. a lot of the tents were out at that time and it was a beautiful scene. it was beautiful and the oak ridge cemetery gate the gate was lit up and across the road and across the road worthy tents with the fires -- were the tents with the fires and lit for the evening. >> we are to an expert on the subject of abraham lincoln's numeral. abraham lincoln died here in washing

that harked back to lincoln's days as a young man. so i feel lincoln's presence.ing on "manhunt," i would often stand-alone in the petersen bedroom and write my initial notes. i must have come to ford's almost a hundred times, to the petersen almost a hundred times and did the same thing in the petersen house. these places are really important and emotional to me and a part of my life. >> before we let you go, we want to ask you about the 12-day chase for the capture and ultimate death of john wilkes booth. first, let's go to laura joining us from sun city, california. good evening to you. >> caller: hello. thank you. i was very much interested in the celebration of 150 years. i think that the first time i learned about lincoln was properly through robert e. lee and that's all in the past and it was that lincoln got robert e. lee's homestead for a wonderful memorial park and then i learned about it more through walter knott at knott's berry farm because he had a play that would darken at the moment lincoln was shot and, of course, walt disney had the disneyland li

so they bring lincoln in there. lincoln dies there the next morning. willie clark comes back after lincoln's body is cleared out. and, essentially, you can only imagine the scene there. you are told, by the way, the president of the united states died in your bed last night. what would you do? sarah, do you think you would -- would you ever go into that room again? sarah jencks: you know, i can't imagine what willie clark must have been feeling. he was a young guy. he was a clerk at the war department. and he was -- this was his room. this was the room he knew. and it was his bed. and he paid for the room. his response was, he slept in the bed. and honestly, while we might have chosen not to do that, i think in other ways, it is understandable that that is what he did. it was his home. so, willie clark is not a famous name, but he guided the interpretation of that space his bedroom for the immediate aftermath of the assassination because people came to visit him and they bothered him. they knocked on his door. it was his room. david mckenzie: in fact,

lincoln. as i knew the position of everyone present, he succeeded in executing a fine sketch which will appear in their paper the last of this week. he intends from this same drawing to have some find large steel engravings executed. so sunday, the day after lincoln's death, easter sunday and, already there's an artist in the peterson house to sketch this scene. so, the fact that is another item that we're including in remembering lincoln. this is the sketch that appeared in frank's illustrated newspaper april 29 th 1865, two weeks after lincoln's detd. >> and this is from the washington collection at the dc public library, although, many copies of it exist. >> they scouted this from the original. what is amazing with the image there's a lot of images of the death of lincoln, some of them came out right after the assassination, and some of them came out years later. the room is nicknamed the robert room, and anyone who has been in there, it's a tiny, tiny space, but in a lot of these images, i

so lincoln got here the afternoon of the may 3rd the day before the funeral, robert todd lincoln. so he was here before the funeral. it was just an immensely sad thing nationwide. but the people in illinois particularly, i know in bloomington, where i live, the newspaper, he spent mere time in bloomington than anywhere other than springfield. and our newspaper said, this is not just the president. this is not just the leader of our nation. this is a friend and neighbor of ours that we have lost, and we all feel it in such a personal way. and that it was true up and down the tracks. just a tremendous personal loss to the people of illinois, because he was so popular and spent so much time in all the towns of the circuit. it's called the land of lincoln and the state, that's our motto. and like so many things we say about lincoln, they're always true. they're too good to be true, but they are. and lincoln, because he was a circuit lawyer, and practiced not just in springfield, but in these 14 counties around central illinois, he was gone half the year in these towns. so he was a res

lincoln -- if we had only had abe lincoln around. he believes in colonizing the slaves abroad and all of that. he becomes absorbed very easily into jim crow and becomes a hero for jim crow people. to be sure. there are enough conservative things within lincoln himself that's why i said that song was a little edgy. there were enough conservative things that conservatives could later grab onto and say look at this. the hutchinson singers were trying to push him because i'm only saying as a tame version of that song, there were really radical versions of that song that was really abolitionist. you can find miserable versions of how the slaves are -- they are absolutely trying to push him that way. push his image, rather. they could not influence him. >> does that imply that lincoln in life could not have created that national identity you talked about? david: could you ask the question again? >> the implication that lincoln had to die to create this national identity in light with his program -- david: i don't think even walt whitman be

from that point, that duplicated and reversed lincoln -- the trip lincoln took out when he went to be inaugurated in 1861. from there it went to chicago, because that was, by now, a large city. he laid in state in chicago for three days until he left ahead back down through illinois. in illinois, -- this was all night, too. the train was supposed to leave at 9:00 in the evening and left at 10:00. all of these towns had thousands of people with on fires as the train passed through illinois, his home state. fol -- jolliet, 15,000 people there, all these towns draped in black, there were portraits of him. the train itself had a portrait of him in the front. they came to the town where i live in bloomington at 5:00 in the morning, having gone through north bloomington first and that is where it started. the people would put arches over the tracks. the train would pass under these arches. "go to thy rest," was normally on the arch. bloomington did nothing. the town was 8000 people and there were 5000 people at the tracks as they went past, down to what is mclean county, and then to the tow

todd lincoln. so he was here for the funeral. it it was just an immensely sad bu thingt nationwide. but the people in illinois partic particularly, i know in bloomington where i live, the bloomi newspaper --ng he had spent so much time in blood work l ton -- he spent more time there than anywhere other than springfield. our newspaper said this is not just the president this is not ader o just the leader of our nation. an this is a friend and neighbor of ours that we have lost. we all feel this in such a nd personal way. that was true up and down the track tracks. just a tremendous personal loss to the to the people of illinois s because he was so popular and spent so much time in all the towns of the circuit. it's called the land of lincoln. the state, that's our motto. and like so many things that we do -- we say about lincoln, t they're always true. they're too good to be true, butl they are.in lincoln because he was a circuit lawyer and practiced not just in springfield, but in the 14 he was don

lincoln saw me.d up and said in a voice that was heard all around -- >> here comes my friend douglass! douglass! i saw you in the crowd today listening to my inaugural address. there is no man whose opinion i value more than yours. what did you think of my speech? >> mr. lincoln, i cannot stop here to talk to you. there are thousands waiting to shake your hand. >> what did you think of it? >> mr. lincoln it was a sacred effort. >> i'm glad you liked it. >> and that was the last time that i saw him. >> six weeks later just as douglass feared on inauguration day, lincoln falls victim to an assassin, an assassin who had, in fact, been in the capitol on inauguration day and was restrained by a policeman. then, 11 years later on the anniversary of the murder, douglass rose to deliver the unveiling of statue of lincoln as emancipate for. and while the sculpture seems politically incorrect by modern standards, it was in fact commissioned and entirely funded by free people of color. douglass has enjoyed now

lincoln: oh my. her question was my plans to help the former landowners of the south, who in many cases had been divested of their rightful property legally speaking, once they lay down their arms and are not using the property for rebellious purposes there is no legal reason to hold it anymore. so what is to become of them? and then their slaves. even before i was reelected, i made it clear that the condition would be no slavery. so that is one form of property that will not be returned. because i do not believe it to be property. i believe it rather to come under the rubric of mankind, and therefore deserving of the rights and privileges of all, as jefferson prescribed. those two, however, have an already established relationship. the former landowners, being powerful, if they are reinstated in their original position, some of them were political in nature. would that thrust us back into the very same position that we were in before the war? we don't want that to happen. a provision in my particula

abraham lincoln hearse build. to remember, thank you president lincoln for affording us a reason to remember. to educate, thank you elizabeth simpson, president of the allstate capital foundation which afforded us a way to educate by reaching out to me last december for the opportunity to speak you this evening. to heal, thank you katie spindel, chair of the 2015 lincoln funeral coalition, for the opportunity to heal through this project and the upcoming reenactment event. thank you, our audience, our friends at c-span, our host, justin blanford, for being here and allowing us to share our story this evening as well. it is truly an honor to be here. my name is p.j. staab, representing the staab family of springfield, illinois, usa. i am a funeral director. not a historian. even though i have devoted hundreds of hours in researching this topic that i am very passionate about. a historic moment in time, about 150 years ago today, at 7:22 a.m., abraham lincoln was officially pronounced dead, news that shocked the nat

thank you. >> "uss abraham lincoln." attention. >> i'd once again like to thank the riders of the ft. myers caisson plat toon, the goshen hunt club, the crew of the "uss abraham lincoln," as well as dr. morris and mr. peck for joining us all today. thank you all. i hope this was a memorable day for you as it was for us. thank you. >>> coming up on c-span2, a panel of health care analysts will examine the emerging online medical care industry, or tele-medicine. they'll discuss regulations impacting interstate and international trade, prices and quality of care, and policy concerns. see it live from the cato institute at noon eastern. later on c-span, the bipartisan policy center will release its recommendations for improving health care in america. health care experts will discuss critical disease prevention and cost reduction. watch that live at 1:00 eastern. >>> david mccullough on the wright brothers their quest for flight, and wilbur's hockey accident that changed his course in history. >> it was the mystery of

lincoln is his hero two. lincoln should be all of our heroes.e story of the constitution is what unites us all north and south come east and west, liberal and conservative, republican and democrat, red and blue. that is what it's all about. i am hoping we can about justice thomas in the national constitution center in the years to come. >> ladies and gentlemen you can see from this great teacher what it was that kindled m

lincoln final. lincoln was on rock solid ground in emphasizing the words of the supremacy clause and its larger geostrategic spirit. i told you why because you don't want people at any moment being able to leave the union and cut a deal with the britts with the spanish of the french contact the rest of us. he said a couple of things that i thought were a little too exuberant. i we will tell you why i think he went further than he had to. the most important constitutional decision ever made in america command he got it right. >> i must confess after all this time i i can see. maricopa. you were right all along. you and folks like you year after year rightfully pushed back. they force future find the argument and so thank you for that push back. >> thank you for inviting. the most exciting thing about studying the constitution is you just inverted your students to hit you with everything you have push hard, challenging and that the best argument when. it is now time to talk about hugo black. you can h

yet lincoln does live to this day.an who liberated 4 million enslaved people, lives on in every sacrifice women and men of courage make for freedom and justice. the president who steadfastly led our nation through its greatest crisis lives on in our journey to perfect our nation, a nation of the people by the people and for the people. abraham lincoln belongs not only to the ages, he belongs to us. thank you. >> 150 years ago last night abraham lincoln went to the theater. the day had begun as one of the happiest of his life. confederate general robert lee surrendered, and it elated him he had been more buoyant than any time in his presidency. three-quarters of a million men had fallen, and he presided over it. this war is eating my life out he once says to lovejoy. i have a strong impression i shall not live to see the end. we know what happened next. lincoln's triumphant arrival at ford's theater at the supreme moment of victory the audience went wild and cheered their father abraham who after shaky start in office l

lincoln's premonition. lincoln had lots of premonitions. lincoln had a superstitious streak to him. he did from the backwoods of , kentucky and indiana. so he has folk religion attaching to him. he believed when his son was bitten by a dog he was going to take him back to indiana to a folk practitioner with a mad stone, it was supposed to drop draw poison out of the wound. and sometimes he will display this superstitious importance of dreams that he has. he dreams that he sees a funeral in the white house, being on the deck of a ship headed toward a distant shore. it is unusual that he missed misreads the dreams. the dream that he has of a funeral in the white house, his dream self goes downstairs and asks somebody what is the funeral about. they say that it was the president. he was assassinated. lincoln's bodyguard was very upset about this. just take more protection. it was the other guy. my dream self was asking the question. not me lying there the victim of an assassin. he dismisses it. when he has on the day that he is assassinated, he relates to his cabinet he had the stream

lincoln and douglas, the debates that defined america. that one the lincoln institute prize. his most recent work is abraham lincoln as a man of ideas, a collection of essays. lincoln, a volume at oxford in 2009. his book on the battle of gettysburg publish in 2013. he spent eight weeks on the new york times bestseller list. possibly the best book written on the battle of gettysburg. his articles and essays have appeared in scholarly journals. los angeles times, a very long list. allen guelzo is our most distinguished biographer of abraham lincoln, historian of the civil war. we are delighted to welcome him here today. he's going to talk about the subject of did religion make america civil war worse? [applause] prof. guelzo: it is a pleasure to be able to speak to you once again, especially when i can come to a venue where the person who introduces me knows how to pronounce my name correctly. i have considered petitioning congress for some kind of recognition of special status protected status. my name in his in a vowel. no one seems to be able to pronounce it properly. i sho

lincoln: oh my. her question was my plans to help the former landowners of the south, who in many cases have been devasting of their rightful property legally speaking, once they lay down their arms and are not using the property for rebellious purposes there is no legal reason to hold it anymore. so what is to become of them? and then their slaves. even before i was reelected, i made it clear that the condition would be no slavery. so that is one form of property that will not be returned. because i do not believe it to be property. i believe it rather to come under the rubric of mankind, and deserving of the rights and privileges of all, as jefferson prescribed. those two, however, have an already established relationship. the former landowners, being powerful, if they are reinstated in their original position, some of them were political in nature. with that thrust us back into the very same position that we were in before the war? we don't want that to happen. a provision in my particular plan i

lincoln: mrs. lincoln stress maker -- mrs. lincoln's dressmaker in washington is a well favored and renowned artisan, i should say. in fact, jeff davis's wife used to employ her and tried to beckon her into the rebel environs, but she was not having any of that. she found mrs. lincoln, and they have become quite good friends. i, at times, have found some great insights in speaking with her. she has a young son. she was a woman who was enslaved. and through this assiduous nature that she has earned her own freedom, and then continued on to buy her son, and left for parts north before the war, of course. she is a woman of great determination and great insight. i have had many conversations with him. my relationship with her is very cordial. she was comforting, in fact, when will he passed away back in february of 1862. you have been a very kind audience. let me break character for a moment before we get the rangers , to just tell you -- my name is fritz klein. you do not have to go that far away. come back. but what you heard be

before lincoln leaves, weitzel and lincoln take a ride around town. lincoln wants to see the city. on the carriage ride, weitzel asked him what he should do with regard to the conquered people. lincoln says he does not wish to tell what to do but if he were in his place, he would let them up easy. let them up easy. when lincoln gets back to washington, secretary of war stanton says this is a crazy idea allowing the rebel government to reconvene in richmond. who knows what they might come up with? he counteracts the order and denies that lincoln ever issued such an order. he spread the rumor this was weitzel's doing and lincoln never would have authorized this. the next controversy that happens is april 9, is palm sunday. in the episcopal church at that time in the confederate states they would read a prayer for jefferson davis every sunday. it's palm sunday, and the ministers come to meet with weitzel and ask what they should do tomorrow about church service? weitzel says we cannot pray for jefferson davis. how about a prayer for those in authority? yet stanton in d.c. says they ha

and truman. >> lincoln. >> lincoln?e east coast of the u.s.? >> [no answer] >> atlantic. >> excellent. >> the atlantic. >> the gulf of mexico is by texas. >> right. >> i'm from colorado. i have never been to the ocean. >> red sea. [ buzzer ] >> lake erie? [ buzzer ] >> the atlantic ocean. >> i was going to say atlantis but i figured that didn't sound right. >> name one state that canada. >> alaska? >> yeah. >> montana, vermont. minnesota. >> washington? >> like new jersey, new york area? >> new jersey? >> no. >> area. >> new jersey. >> no. connecticut. it's up there.d, no. >> where are you from? >> i'm from oregon. >> yes, okay.ay >> what is the name of our national anthem? >> the national anthem. >> is that a trick question? >> i pledge allegiance to the flag. >> um -- i know what it is, i just can't get it right now. >> isn't it just called the american's national anthem? >> the star spangled banner. >> star spangled banner. ♪ o say can you see >> that's as far as you're going to get. ♪ whose broad stripes and bright