lincoln's existence. lincoln once gave his wife a copy of a book called the elements of character publishes publishes -- [inaudible] he had underlined a package indicating that marriage could deteriorate from, quote, the highest happiness that can exist on earth to a -- of misery, absolutely infernal. the lincolns' marriage was such a fountain of misery, yet incalculable good for the nation. lincoln -- [audio difficulty] he had not had so much practice at home. as his friend and colleague at the -- and biographer wrote, lincoln possessed an equanimity and patience which captivated the masses while tired out petulant -- [inaudible] and the like. which enabled him to -- unwelcome policies on the nation and frankly to restore peace to his grieving country and give physical freedom to the blacks and political freedom to the why notes. speculated if lincoln had not undergone the, quote, harsh discipline he experienced at the hands of his wife, he may have failed as president. quote, the nation is mostly indepa

gurley lincoln's minister doctor. will you speak? he said a prayer for lincoln. and then edwin stanton pronounced words that really were immortal and remembered wrong for the last 150 years. the secretary of war stood in this room and looked at abraham lincoln's body and said now he belongs to the angels. we remember today as now he belongs to the ages. but extensive research has revealed. that it's best to remembered by the stenographer tanner who's pencil broke? his only lead pencil broke as he was writing down. what was said in this room, but he remembered that stanton said angels plus it's characteristic with stanton's temperament how we viewed his faith how we viewed the world. he wouldn't have said something as profound is now he belongs to the ages. i have no doubt that in this room stanton said now he belongs to the angels. people filtered out of the room one by one. stanton remained here alone with the president and at that point he took a small scissors or razor and he approached lincoln's body. and he cut off a lock of lincoln's hair. not for himself,

lincoln.contended with political and military battlegrounds during the civil war. his home life did not provide the relief that he sought. drawing upon memoirs, newspaper accounts and records, michael burlingame explores the domestic life of abraham and mary lincoln. he was born in washington, d.c. and raised in nearby arlington. his first book, "the inner world of abraham lincoln," appeared in 1994. since then he has written and edited over a dozen other lincoln books including "abraham lincoln: a life," that won the 2010 lincoln prize and was deemed one of the five best books of the year by "the atlantic." this october pegasus books will release his study: the black man's president." he is currently president of the springfield-based abraham lincoln association. now let's hear from michael burlingame. thank you for joining us today. >> before i begin, i would like to thank the archives for inviting me to participate in this series. over the years i've spent many hours at the archives both in

well, the answer is abraham lincoln. this is not because lincoln is the famous abraham lincoln.s is because abraham lincoln is a prom then former whig lawyer who has now join the republican party as of 1856. and because no other republican is really interested in breaking their teeth trying to challenge stephen a. douglass. so it's very much a case of, well, we know we're not winning in election. so, all right. well let's nominate lincoln. because nobody else wants to lose in the republican ranks. lincoln understood the odds were long here. but lincoln had had a long career of controversy and opposition with douglass. lincoln was spoiling for a fight. the state republican convention convenes in springfield, illinois, in mid-june of 1858. they endorse lincoln for the united states senate. now, mind you, they can only endorse him because before 1912 senators are selected by the state legislatures. they're not popularly elected. strictly speaking, no one is nominating lincoln for the senate, any more anyone is nominating douglass for the senate. it's the state legislature which is

and that is where lincoln grows up. alas, that is also where lincoln's mother dies. lincoln's father goes back to kentucky, remarries and lincoln now has a stepmother, sarah bush johnston. now, in wet is almost an inversion of the old pencil and griddle story about the wicked stepmother, it's actually something of the reverse for abraham lincoln. because sarah bush johnston really becomes his mother fully as much as a mother could be. she and her stepson, abraham, they are copacetic. something that cannot be said about lincoln's relationship with his father, thomas, where the relationship was in fact a good deal more tense. lincoln once described his father as being the sort of man who could bungling lee sign his own name,. that was not a compliment. and lincoln and his father are really two very, very different quantities. so different that when thomas lincoln once again takes up the family and moves westward across the wall bash river to illinois, at that point, young abraham having turned 21 decides that he's going to strike out on his own. and the owned that he s

on behalf of the board of the lincoln prize let me welcome you to the 30th and 31st lincoln prize award ceremony. in a year of zoom exhaustion and webinar weariness, thank you all for taking the time to join us. covid caused us to postpone our ceremony in 2020. but tonight we combine it with the 2021 award and a special double presentation. we are able to do this thanks to the efforts of dianead brennan, the price administrator at gettysburg college and cassidy hooker, events and management that gilbert in situ. thanks also to the stamina and good nature of the lincoln prize journey who agreed to serve two years running of the steven mintz at the university of texas, and the chair, professor and former president at the university of richmond and a trustee of the institute at heirs. thank you all for making the ceremony possible. normally it will be hold this event at the union league club and eric said he only about 250 people are able to attend. so the silver lining to l being virtual is that tonight ween have more than 1000 people in our audience. any of them teachers and students to

we know what lincoln says.e know about the house divided speech, we note the lincoln douglas debates. i started going to some of the material he said literally the first debate with steven douglas in 1858 he's running for a senator at the time against douglas. douglas had controlled the illinois democratic party and at that time there were not directly elected he became the senator. so what happened was in talking about slavery made another argument. this was during the first debate. he said you know, every man has a right to earn his own. i'm paraphrasing, to be on an equal footing with everyone. so this is lincoln's view of economic progress that you have a right to offer your labor for pay that you have the opportunity to ascend the economic ladder. how do you move up? how do you avoid being this back a woodsman all your life doomed to farming? how do you do that? while this is part of the american system. it kind of grown up to learn in our history. but there's more to it than that. here is something even m

the lincoln one was about his nomination for the presidency. it was lincoln before the beard. the washington one i'm working on now, is george washington, looking at him in one year , during the revolution, between the fourth of july, 1777, and the fourth of july, 1778. that's more of a military book. rod: speaking of logan and the military, logan succeeded general mcpherson after his unfortunate demise. why was it logan did not get permanent command of the army? gary: the battle i just talked about at the cyclarama, was july 22nd, 1864. mcpherson was killed during that battle. he was the only major in charge of an army -- he's the only major on the union side, the only major general in charge of a major army to be killed in the civil war and this happened in the last 10 months of the war. immediately, logan succeeded him because he was the supporting officer and coordinator and ranked the other two commanders there. he was responsible turning this chaotic moment of losing the commander and helped by his presence to win that battle. but logan was not west point trained and the

. - mami, mira a lincoln. [risas] lincoln: feliz navidad. - ¿cÓmo estÁs, linc? lincoln: bien.quÉ gusto verte. lincoln: ¿cÓmo estÁ su novio, morris? - estÁ bien. juega golf en florida. lincoln: ¿juega golf? madre: sÍ. eddie: ¡el capitÁn flash en ruedas! - ¡hola, paulie! ¡feliz navidad! lincoln: ¡feliz navidad a todos! - oye, linc, te obsequio esto para que te mejores mÁs rÁpido, ¿eh? ¡aquÍ tienes! - ¡gracias, eddie! - es lindo. quÉ bonito. enfermera: adelante, pasen ustedes. - hola. feliz navidad. - feliz navidad. feliz navidad. [voces indistintas] janine: ¡mira eso! kenneth: luce muy bien, seÑor rhyme. - ¿seÑor rhyme? dime lincoln, ya eres de confianza. [risas] ¡no puedo creerlo! ah, ¡no puedo creerlo! ¡feliz navidad! ¿quÉ hacen aquÍ? kimmy: feliz navidad, tÍo linc. lincoln: oh... ¡dame un beso! feliz navidad, kimmy. ¿cÓmo estÁs? ¿quÉ tal, tony? ¡por dios! no sabÍa que vendrÍan. - creÍ que te lo habÍan dicho. - ¡oh! ¡perdÓn! amelia, ella es mi hermana, janine, y su familia, amelia. - sÍ, lo sÉ. hola. - ¿quÉ cosa? - me hablÓ. - por telÉfono. ¿cÓmo estÁs? feliz navidad, lincoln.

all lincoln could do was smile. i think lincoln appreciated it. of my favorite lincoln letters was after he heard that the book would be published. he said, "this was the greatest compliment i ever received, that somebody wants to publish my book." that is because lincoln is a book lover. susan: this is just one concept. tell me about the concept for the book. craig: is the untold story of presidents and their books. one thing that is really fun and surprising is that this is a history that as long as american history itself. i talk about two different types of books, campaign books like lincoln's where they use a book to help them run. then legacy books, what did i do in the white house, what did my enemies say and what do i say? just as an example of how old this history is, the first campaign book, that comes from thomas jefferson. the first legacy book comes from john adams. this is a really deep history. it is a brand-new angle on the presidency. when i started working on this book 10 years ago, i had to make a list because no one had written

david: so when you started at lincoln center, when lincoln center opened in the 1960's, people thoughtok, this is opera, symphonic music, classical kind of music. you came along and said maybe we can have jazz. what did people say initially when you said we need to do more jazz at lincoln center? wynton: we had a lot of support from the top of the organization. everybody was dedicated. and, you know, when it was founded, maybe the lincoln center didn't think about the music or maybe the initial founders, the rockefellers, didn't like the music, it doesn't matter. the constitution wasn't written with the rights of afro-americans and native americans in mind. but the constitution can be amended, and it has been amended. david: how do you divide your time between playing, conducting, composing, and teaching? wynton: i work all the time. so i don't separate anything. my work is also my hobby. ♪ david: let me ask you, on a normal time, before covid came, and hopefully when covid is gone you'll return to the situation you had before -- are you on the road half the time and half the time in n

you have lincoln coming in. he can either allow the confederacy to go its merry way or he could try to keep the country together and he decides to go for broke. he decides that it's important enough for the nation to be performed -- to be preserved to go to war. over 700,000 people died as a consequence, but he also opens the door to ending say it -- ending slavery. that is revolutionary. he is succeeded by andrew johnson who is not in any way fit to be president at that time. it makes perfect sense that lincoln is elevated the number one because the country could not have survived without his leadership. with help from the military and the american people, but it was lincoln's leadership that made the difference. host: not to beat up too much on johnson, but why expand on that? why unfit? guest: andrew johnson was a southerner from tennessee, a democrat, but someone who remained loyal to the union. he did not have the administrative ability that lincoln did. he did not have the vision that lincoln did. he did n

i don't believe for a minute that lincoln didn't see these things. i don't believe for a minute gardner wouldn't have shown them to him or that lincoln would not have expressed interest in them and when i read lincoln's words of the gettysburg address these photographs are what are echoing around in my head. we cannot consecrate we cannot hallow this ground more than those who gave their lives here lincoln is in effect saying, what do you expect me to say? you've seen the bodies. we're now burying the bodies. we're trying to honor them and we're trying to remember. this is what we are fighting for to get past this to me. this is a room in part about paying last respects and there are plenty of people who saw the photographs at matthew brady's who felt as though they were in fact paying last respects to the dead and thanking their lucky stars. they weren't one of them and i think that's a sobering moment for understanding the visceral nature of the war. a lot of civil war photography are portraits of soldiers things that were done as keepsakes to send

the top of that list, abraham lincoln.ollowed by george washington, franklin roosevelt, theodore roosevelt. ronald reagan rounding at the top five when it comes to advancing a vision paid st. paul, minnesota, independent line. caller: good morning. i'm going to toss in a new category. most underappreciated, but best prepared. no president is really prepared, but i look at bush 41 as having the credentials that matched perhaps no one else but george washington to step into that position and i think it's leadership was very good in a number of different categories. i do recall the speeches he did on c-span afterwards or something he wrote later, he was puzzled by so much rhetoric, nonsense rhetoric and he wanted to be judged based on his actions more so than his words because a lot of people didn't think he was a great orator, but in fact his relationship both domestically and internationally really prepared him to perform well in the office. host: i was can ask you, former president bush served in a lot of different roles b

you have lincoln coming in.n either allow the confederacy to go its merry way or he could try to keep the country together and he decides to go for broke. he decides that it's important enough for the nation to be performed -- to be preserved to go to war. over 700,000 people died as a consequence, but he also opens the door to ending say it -- ending slavery. that is revolutionary. he is succeeded by andrew johnson who is not in any way fit to be president at that time. it makes perfect sense that lincoln is elevated the number one because the country could not have survived without his leadership. with help from the military and the american people, but it was lincoln's leadership that made the difference. host: not to beat up too much on johnson, but why expand on that? why unfit? guest: andrew johnson was a southerner from tennessee, a democrat, but someone who remained loyal to the union. he did not have the administrative ability that lincoln did. he did not have the vision that lincoln did. he did not hav

david: let's talk about jazz at lincoln center. begin playing jazz at lincoln center in the late 1980's? mr. marsalis: 1987. david: you are the music director of the jazz at lincoln center orchestra, is that right? mr. marsalis: we wanted to build, build, build. we wanted to provide enough education and music and advocacy. enough concerts for us as a nation to have our native art form when it came time for us to address our mythology correctly. so that we could move forward as a nation. we have succeeded beyond any of our wallace imaginations. the concerts we have been able to do, we built three halls in manhattan on 59th street, the house of swing. we put our concert series over 30 years and have 12 education programs and since the pandemic, we put out over 500, 600. we are deeply engaged. david: when lincoln center opened in the 1960's, people thought this was opera, symphonic, and you came along and said, we could have jazz. what did people say? mr. marsalis: we had support from the top of the organization. everybody was dedicat

i'm gonna run him through meaning i'm going to kill and he assassinated abraham lincoln because lincoln underwent a major transformation about the mental capacity of black people their fitness to be citizen and their their right to bear arms and and fight, um for the union and in part to his friendship is my colleague john stauffering as david blight my good friends. yeah, who wrote? yeah, david blake knows more about frederick douglas and frederick douglass. did i i had a conversation with him like this two years ago. oh, he's he's great and we we option the documentary rights to david's book, and i just looked at the rough cut for our documentary, which would be aired on hbo next year. i think fingers crossed. so i got one final question. skip how can we implement the black church the book the black church into a k-12 curriculum? well, i don't jim and i have talked about this. this was a prelude jim basker my dear friend who needs no introduction to this audience. um as asked me to work with him on the reconstruction curriculum and curriculum about the black church, and you know, jim

i'm a district one resident and i live not too far from lincoln park. i went on a walking tour to see this monument and learn the history of this area that had the cemeteries there and it's really a rich history and i strongly urge this become a city landmark and i would urge another hearing about the zoo. i think it's time for that to become a landmark and the planning commission staff as of all the paper work it needs to process the application. so i look forward to hearing on the mother's building project. thank you. >> clerk: thank you, mr. rossman. next speaker. >> hi, my name is grant ingraham. i'm a district one resident i'm also an chuck supporter of public golf in san francisco and i was part of the effort this past weekend which obtained the signatures of over 150 park golfers who expressed their concern about this initiative. and many of these golfers were seniors of asian heritage. we will not apologize we have real concerns that this initiative didn't consider the ongoing survival of the course. at the same time, every golfer i spoke to str

lincoln lost the election. not because he wasn't convincing, not because he didn't get votes but because the legislative portion that favor downstate democratic voters more heavily than mid state in upstate republican voters, mr. douglass was reelected. but lincoln's words have made such a deep impact, that even though he loses the election, he wins national attention and suddenly people are asking all across the country, who is this man from illinois? who bearded stephen a douglas in his own then. who is this man, lincoln? but it would not be lincoln they would hear from next. oh no. the next voice would come from our old friend, john brown. and that's where we will pick up in our next hour. from a museum perspective, we like to think of it as a two football fields of education and entertainment. so it's a great hook for us to get people appreciating and understanding a little bit more, the history of the great lakes. so, we are on the pilot house deck of the colonel james schoonmaker museum ship which is the

that evolved into jazz at lincoln center.ynton: we wanted to fill a space in the american arts and provide enough education and music and advocacy, enough concerts for us as a nation to have our native art form when it came time for us to address our mythology and correct it so that we can move forward as a nation. so we've seceded beyond -- we have succeeded beyond our wildest imagination. we built three concert halls in the middle of manhattan on 59th street. he put on concert series over 30 years. we have 12 education programs. since the pandemic, we put out over 500, 600 pieces virtually. david: when you started lincoln center, it opened in the 1960's. people thought, this is opera, symphonic music, classical kind of music. you came along and said maybe we can have jazz. whether people say initially when you said we need more jazz at lincoln center? wynton: we had a lot of support from the top of the organization. when it was founded, the lincoln center did not think about the music or may the initial founders, the rockef

but lincoln's electio had a great deal to do with it. did they misinterpret lincoln's election? interpret it accurately? we can debate that. doesn't matter. the 11 states that seceded from the union interpreted it as an ultimate death knell to their social system. and do you know what? they weren't wrong. i used to think otherwise. it's one of those things i had to change in my teaching. quick anecdote. i am a graduate student at wisconsin. this is an argument for always listening to your mentors. i have been this high school teacher for seven years. i think i know how to teach. dick sul was my mentor. the great rich sul, wrote the book ballots for freedom among others. great scholar, political abolitionist and a fantastic mentor. he came to observe my section. i was a ta in his course. i had a great class, i thought. the kids were on it. they were talking. this kid was debating that kid. man, i walked out of there thinking, woo, i gained three inches walking out of that class. and dick walked me back to his office and said that was really -- it's good, it's good. you have got e

, people make lincoln there are 45 different lincolns to choose from, pick one.ferson, good lord, how many jeffersons are there? i wonder how many madisons have there been through time. where is madison's memory ebb and flow? but what modern right has done is seized upon many writings of -- by douglass, writings and speeches, where he expressed fierce support of self-reliance, that is he preached particularly to black audiences don't wait for handouts, create your own schools, especially after the civil war, create your own schools wherever you can, stay on the farm, get property, own things. it is a very -- seemingly very conservative sort of social philosophy. but what we can forget sometimes is that every black leader in the 19th century had to believe in self-reliance. how can you not believe in self-reliance in a society that enslaves you, then brutally discriminates against you, and then kills you when you assert your rights, and so forth. what are the choices do you have in a society that will not build you a school, and then will segregate you if there is

the top of that list, abraham lincoln.d by george washington, franklin roosevelt, theodore roosevelt. ronald reagan rounding at the top five when it comes to advancing a vision paid st. paul, minnesota, independent line. caller: good morning. i'm going to toss in a new category. most underappreciated, but best prepared. no president is really prepared, but i look at bush 41 as having the credentials that matched perhaps no one else but george washington to step into that position and i think it's leadership was very good in a number of different categories. i do recall the speeches he did on c-span afterwards or something he wrote later puzzled by so much rhetoric, nonsense rhetoric and he wanted to be judged based on his actions more so than his words because a lot of people didn't think he was a great orator, but in fact his relationship both domestically and internationally really prepared him to perform well in the office. host: i was can ask you, former president bush served in a lot of different roles before becoming

lincoln's loyalty so the senators were embarrassed and left. so if lincoln's ghost is there, i'm sure it has to do with that encounter in the senate. lincoln, of course, served in the house of representatives and not the senate. >> the library of congress conversation, where was the library of congress when it was in the capitol and what is in there now? >> the wing that sticks out toward the mall. it was added after the capitol was designed because the congress had purchased thomas jefferson's library which is too large for the room they were using at that point. so it was almost the entire wing at least of the upper floors that sticks out toward the mall from the rotunda. it is now occupied on the south by the speaker's office and on the north by a number of hide away offices including the president of the senate and several other people there. then they added another floor above it out of the space, the room was two stories high. i think we have even scheduled a lunch bite later on to talk about that. >> maybe then we can ask if there are an

nation's capitol, lincoln memorial, gotta do it. enjoy these. there's no fog interfering with these fireworks as opposed to possibly the fireworks along the san francisco area. that's nice. >> good stuff. >> they have come a long way on the fireworks, thedesigns, t wif them below the ceiling of the low clouds. >> cotton candy fireworks. >> the low clouds likely set to come back right over the next two to three hours. we got a little sunshine around san francisco. golden gate bridge, you have the clouds and some mist there on the camera lens. it's 61 degrees. the winds will bring in low clouds as we head through the evening. oakland, sunny skies. we look over oakland coliseum. 66 degrees. our temperatures are comfortable. outdoor plans, enjoying the nice weather. into san jose, currently about 73 degrees. let's look at the forecast.70s 7:00. seeing the mid skies around san jose. the air quality not all that bad. tomorrow, moderate. you might notice haze in the sky. that wildfire smoke from the larger fires to the north and east, thanks to the win

and lincoln obviously knew he would have to free the black people.ntil the end of 1862 through november he was still entertaining the colonization that you could remove these people that their presence as jefferson stand on - - said their presence of white people is incompatible. >> i hate to interrupt you but that is a piece of work. >> it is bad. >> even said orangutans in africa meet with african women. you cannot get more racist than that. [laughter] >> we were told the students that they had to make the case that human beings were members of the human community community but jefferson puts it in there he doesn't say that directly that he is refusing that says we all know that orangutans prefer african-american women as part of the animal kingdom or as part of the human family that's why reading and writing was important because everybody reviewed the book because she was the first person of african descent to publish a book of poetry in english and everybody wrote about that. benjamin franklin visited her she had to go to london to get her book

eisenhower and you said lincoln number 1.s. talk about why listenon -- lincoln gets that honor. >> his writings and his inaugurals and the emanipation proclamation and our civil war. a country divided in two and lincoln pulled us together. his funeral was so dramatic. whether you are barack obama you said lincoln is my favorite president and george w. bush lincoln is your favorite president. he is in a category all to himself. washington of all of the reasons we knowledge. -- know. there is criticism of save owners and washington is number 2. >> bret: the biggest gain from the last time that this was taken. there is grant. plus 13. george w. bush moving up 7 points. eisenhower up 4 spots and coolidge 3. grant made a big move. >> i know you like grant. that's good news for you. you have a great book coming out soon i can't wait to get released. grant is getting better because people were talking about him more. there was a taint of corruption on his administration but we see what an incredible job he did trying to heal the nat

abraham lincoln is a party guy. and creates a party and that is, madison is a paul, we have a judge in as a appalled and sometimes, this is what we are seeing today, kevin mccarthy versus lynn cheney or lindsey graham, do you go with what is in the short-term interest of the party to keep the base or do you say even if it goes against the party, there are certain core principles we have to abide by as a matter of conscience? that is the kind of thing you will not understand if especially madison, as up your theorist as opposed to a political actor. >> may be a hopeful note because on the one hand we are saying madison was a politician. on the other hand politicians can be like james madison. a terrific book, thank you, thank you louise mayer, thank you new york historical society. ♪♪

i'm a district one resident and i live not too far from lincoln park.n a walking tour to see this monument and learn the history of this area that had the cemeteries there and it's really a rich history and i strongly urge this become a city landmark and i would urge another hearing about the zoo. i think it's time for that to become a landmark and the planning commission staff as of all the paper work it needs to process the application. so i look forward to hearing on the mother's building project. thank you. >> clerk: thank you, mr. rossman. next speaker. >> hi, my name is grant ingraham. i'm a district one resident i'm also an chuck supporter of public golf in san francisco and i was part of the effort this past weekend which obtained the signatures of over 150 park golfers who expressed their concern about this initiative. and many of these golfers were seniors of asian heritage. we will not apologize we have real concerns that this initiative didn't consider the ongoing survival of the course. at the same time, every golfer i spoke to strongly sup

are these are castro, has more from washington, lincoln told side that.