there's a logical lincoln, very logical lincoln. sometimes i almost can imagine him as a lawyer walking up and down a courtroom kind of prosecuting a case against slavery advocates. and so this is a way of him working out intellectually what he thinks about an issue. sometimes the notes are ahead of what he will say. in other words, he's a little more circumspect may be in a public speech, not quite ready to say something in his anti-slavery. we watch the development of this entry slavery thought but you can see the foundation of that in these notes -- anti-slavery thought. >> i want to ask about some of the commonalities that they have. >> yes. >> he delves into the historical note many times, and others, many times he begins with a challenge and inns with some call to action. >> yes. >> are there other commonalities besides, you can talk about these, and is this, and most of his speeches as well? >> you have determined or described it well, that he's never talking about this just to have an intellectual conversation. but as you su

that's all lincoln. try to understand questionnd, conceptualize what e were reading of lincoln, there were 111 of them it only goes through 11, 12, 13 and the rest is up to us as the reader so asked us to be interactive and analyze. the items that, because over the nature a number of times, a fragment of the house divided. the longest response i've seen for any autograph request, there it is. farewell to his troops rivals it but this is an autographed request and it fabulous. anmy favorite is when you can't find anywhere else, look into this. one of the fragments are note zachary taylor, if he has zachary taylor in front of c hi, were trying to get into power and what he ought to say about policy, i have asked others before the particular problems becoming a politician versus politician becoming commander-in-chief, so how did lincoln in this to taylor? was he saying to him how a soldier should look at? >> i almost includedmm this one because as you suggested, it is fascinating. zachary taylor was brought

see the private lincoln behind the public lincoln.this previous contemplation where he wrote mostly to himself. >> this is a great way to end. i only epilogue very briefly let's keep this between us. there has been contemplation times of that and we return to the program together about the time unlike and life. i put down salem when he discovered himself walking down -- and that link time between lee's surrender and his death but i think and you say this in the book was when he went on the circuit. that was a wonderful time for him to be able to do what he loved best, speak about politics and speak about the law but there's an idea and i want you to comment on this that part of the reason he did not go home all the time and all the other lawyers went home for the weekend and maybe even the holidays, he sometimes stayed out there on the circuit. i think that was important to him to be able -- it was the only time he had in his busy life to contemplate and to understand. what do you think about that. i don't think he was not going home

republican, principal and outrage in lincoln, unity lincoln, the kentuckian and the theological lincolnt is what is covid in these chapters and then in appendix so when you dissect these 11 different notes in these ten chapters, we will go to the appendix later on because there are 111 fragments. what was your overriding consideration when choosing this in the book? >> we first had to choose the aspects, or did they pop out at you anyway? >> first of all, thank you so much for being part of your program, it's a real delight and provides each. this is a long winding story for me but i first encountered lincoln at the huntington library exhibit in 1993, 94. i was teaching history at ucla and i had a choice of offering a seminar of my own. i was reading lincoln's words and when i came to the second inaugural, i was struck by but i wanted to know what the end seemed so i learned there was a document at brown university. john, lincoln's young secretary, lincoln didn't title any of these with meditation on the divine flow so i traveled from socal to brown university to hold this piece of blue

there is a logical lincoln. sometimes i almost can imagine him as a lawyer walking up and down the court room kind of prosecuting a case against slavery and focus and so this is a way of him working out intellectually what he thinks about an issue. sometimes the notes are ahead of what he will say in other words if he's a little more circumspect he's not quite ready to saysl something and is adding slavery we watch the development but you can see the foundation of that in these notes. >> i want to ask about some of the commonalities that what they have. it delves into the historical note and many times it begins with a challenge or call to action. are there other commonalities that are common in most of the speeches as well? >> he is never talking about this just to have an intellectual conversation but as you suggest there's a call to action at the end but you don't get to that call until you've taken the time to understand the issue so lincoln is wanting to deal with that. for example, he's very concerned when

lincoln.erred lincoln but he did say i know i was not going to get elected without the image of abe. that's why i call my book "abe" bridge about the intersection between him and why he was elected which was his knowledge of contemporary america. emerson said about lincoln he said you know there's no hero in history who encompassed culture and allro ranges of culture from the highest to the lowest and on the high side linking could recite shakespeare by the page. not to brag because these lines meant something to him. he really did bridge a lot of culture and he firmly believe that people are shaped by conditions by their outside conditions indelibly. thee same time he stated he believed in the individuals capacity to shape an intern for the individual to shape it. it was about that whole letter changeun between him and how tht guided him into the presidency through the civil war. as a nation divided over and in that division he was compared often to the famous tightrope walker who wentlk back

lincoln or anything like that. he preferred lincoln. he did say, i know i was not going to get elected with the image of abe. and that's why i call my book "abe." it's but the interception between him and -- intersection between him and what got him elected which was his knowledge of his contemporary america, and emerson said about lincoln, there's no hero in history who encompassed culture all ranges of cultural from the very highest to the lowest, on the high side lincoln could recite shakespeare by the page, and many other poets -- not to brag because these lines meant something to him and he liked bawdy jokes and frontier humor and everything in between. sappy parlor songs and soing for. so he did bridge the whole range of culture, and he strongly believed that people are shaped by conditions, outside conditions, indelibly shaped but at the same time, he stated he believed in the individual's capacity to shape, to in turn feed back into culture and for the individual to shape it and my book is really about the whole interchange betw

is a place called lincoln landing, a point illinois lincoln section one of the scenes were lincoln came through their, after his only term in congress is really what spurred my imagination in thinking that how did lincoln see the future of the country. he helped get this canal built, he created a great city it all the towns along it pretty think about all of the towns along the erie canal new york city in new orleans and all the things that happened after it. but he had this vision and sometimes places have this power to really instill his vision a try to get into lincoln's head and all of us have tried and we don't completely understand him and we never will but it's important to see what he saw in the field maybe it when he felt and did no to aspire to a better country was still a worthy goal in a moral principle that we can't abandoned. >> will john on behalf of the school the cfa, it is wonderful to get have you back to her audience thank you for tuning and we have rate programs coming up with several including peter cohen and doctor henry. it's on behalf of all of us again john, th

gilder lehrman lincoln prize for her book mourning lincoln.ri will present the finals for the 2020 lincoln prize. take it away martha. >> thank you sebastian and good evening. my name is martha hodes and it's my honor to introduce the finalists for the 2020 lincoln prize. the files were chosen by distinguished scholars from a pool of more than 100 looks nominated for the prize. we have named a finalist for the president speaker's award and a unique group that includes the very best history writing over the last 30 years. her first finalists is a 2020 lincoln prize is -- for his book the second coming of the civil war and reconstruction remade the constitution which traces the art of three foundational amendments the 13th, 14th and 15th. the second finalist was matthew for his book -- photography human bondage in the birth of modern visual politics in america which explores the role of photography in shaping the public's understanding of in the 19th century. the third finalist was stephanie e. jones rodgers for her book day worker property whit

lincoln prize for her book morning mac lincoln and will be presenting the finalists for the 2020 lincoln it away, martha. >> thank you, sebastian, and good evening. my name is martha and it's my honor tonight to introduce the finalists for the 2020 lincoln fiprize. the finalists were chosen by a jury of distinguished scholars from a pool of more than 100 bucks. named a finalist for this prestigious award, these historians joined in a group that includes the very best writing over the last 30 years. the first finalist for the 2020 lincoln prize was eric phone or for his book the second founding how the civil war and reconstruction remade the constitution that changes the arc of the foundational reconstruction amendments for the 13th, 14th and 15th amendment. the second finalist was matthew for his book exposing slavery, democracy, human bondage and the birth of modern politics in america. for her book they were her property white women and slave owners in the american south which examines white women's participation in the slave market and how they used it for economic andco social advant

we know what lincoln says.e know about the house divided speech, we note the lincoln douglas debates. i started going to some of the material he said literally the first debate with steven douglas in 1858 he's running for a senator at the time against douglas. douglas had controlled the illinois democratic party and at that time there were not directly elected he became the senator. so what happened was in talking about slavery made another argument. this was during the first debate. he said you know, every man has a right to earn his own. i'm paraphrasing, to be on an equal footing with everyone. so this is lincoln's view of economic progress that you have a right to offer your labor for pay that you have the opportunity to ascend the economic ladder. how do you move up? how do you avoid being this back a woodsman all your life doomed to farming? how do you do that? while this is part of the american system. it kind of grown up to learn in our history. but there's more to it than that. here is something even m

we know what lincoln says. we know the house divided speech we know about the lincoln douglas debates. we start going into some of the material and found something very interesting that he said literally in the first debate with steven douglas in 1858 he was running for senator at that time against douglas. douglas had controlled the illinois democratic party. at that time senators were not directly elected they were elected by state legislatures. he became the senator. what happened was lincoln and talking about slavery made a another argument. this was during the first debate. he said you know, every man has a right to earn his own bread. i am o paraphrasing, to be on equal footing with everyone. so this is lincoln's view of economic progress that you have a right to offer your labor for pay period that you have the opportunity to ascend the economic ladder and he use those words, economic ladder how do you move up? how do you avoid being the back woodsman all your life how do you do that? that is part of the

it's a place called lincoln landing in rockport illinois and is one of those things were lincoln camem in congress, who whispered my imagination is how did lincoln see the future of the country. he helped get this canal built and created this grace and in all of the sounds along and buried nearly canal in new york city new orleans all of these things that happened after it when he had this vision. sometimes places have this power to really instill the vision and you try to get it into lincoln's head and all of us have tried. we don't completely understand him and we never will. but it's important to see what he saw in the field anybody felt. enter no one who aspired to a better country was still worthy goal and a a moral principle tht we cannot abandoned. jim: john on behalf of the school, it's wonderful again to have you back in our audience, thank you for tuning in and we have great programming coming up with several wall street legends including peter cohen and doctor henry and on behalf of all of us again john, thank you very much pretty. john: thank you and is been such a pleasur

of course lincoln. most of them are the better generals it turns out are the railroad engineers who became generals and a leader become active in the kind of railroad building so here's what is even remarkable. at the height of the civil war there's bloodshed with over life and inng their the camps to various diseases. they have no idea what's going on because it doesn't until. using disinfectants and some of the camps and he doesn't even know about germs. he just hears about it. i saw an archive where he's. to find new ways of communicating and getting us to where we need to be. the biggest number of scoops that he signs into law are fundamental. the homestead act that allows people basically free land out west. the moral act. the following year was 1862. the following year he also passes the national banking act. and this is for the first time it establishes. during the war come the union, the gdp increases. it's a very small tax. it was the first tax repealed. that was a very important level of devel

lincoln. wasn't going to get elected without the image. it's about the intersection between him and basically what got him elected which was his knowledge on contemporary america. there's all ranges of culture from the lowest to highest. lincoln could recite shakespeare by the page and many other poets. not to brag because these lines meant something to him. anded he liked humor and everything in between. sappy parlor and so forth so he strongly believed it was shaped by conditions that stated he believed in the individual's capacity to shape so my book is about that interchange between him and how that guided him into the presidency. he was compared often to the famous tightrope walker that went back and forth across niagara falls, no neck, backwards, forwards, on stilts, pushing a wheelbarrow, many curtains portrayed the few times he compared himself and people would say can't you go faster and he would say would you tell him to t tilt this way or that way, to the left or the right. i had to

living in the land of i lincoln. an ongoing story and i hope all of you will continue with what we need to do. >> we encourage everyone to please enter your own questions. and what does the main source of income, can we talk about china and the tariff? >> i think that the whole tariff formula proved not enough and this was the whole argument during the 19th century, they used to fund some of the structure, but it wasn't enough. is it a good way to finance these things, i will leave that to the historians in the financial analysts. we will break away here to fulfill our more than four year commitment to congressional coverage. we will return to this program momentarilyug following a pro forma session in the senate. we are lied to the senate floor here on c-span2

including how lincoln constructed the argument as well. the public goods of infrastructure. >> hr 40 is in front of congress possibly. reparations for descendents of slaves. while lincoln think about that?c >> i think that he would think about it thoughtfully. and it's something that we need to address inequities in all of our systems, there is an environmental situation as well, toxic plants and refineries, communities of color, there's a lot of things that i think that lincoln would've addressed. and it spoke to his sense of fairness and the ability to take advantage of the ability, it should be addressed. and i think that he would've talked to frederick douglass, booker washington, and others all the people that were talking about it today as well. and i think he would've taken a hard look at how we do this. >> how are the canal is financed? can you explain? >> this is an interesting story about american finance. and it floated down, horribly inadequate, what they do is we're going to work private contracts that can hire their own worke

lincoln was very awkward socially unless he was giving a speech. things did not go well at first with mary todd and then they broke it off and he was horribly depressed and has fred took away his razor, he wouldn't come out of his house, and there was a challenge and 19th century duels were kind of complex affairs and that is what happened. so he didn't fight and that is a good thing. because i cannot imagine what this country would be like without lincoln. it's a good question mel, thank you, david. >> here's an interesting one. if you could pick one thing this, what would it be. >> for me it would be health care. because one of the things they discovered that writingca this book is that there are massive inequities in terms of health care coverage between communities of color than the rest of the country. it is unequal and on equally divided. i live in the county where we have a plethora of really good hospitals, but if you go to the southside of chicago, we are struggling to keep hospitals open. so click okay, how do we have a plan so that w eve

the first color in this hour comes in the land of lincoln, lincoln placed first in all four of the surveys, judah is in illinois a republican. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i like the first state i don't meet any box but i am a republican, my family has been republican since the emancipation proclamation. although the current state of my party, the party of lincoln seems to be frayed around the edges to say the least. things i have thought about while listening to your show this morning, was this insurrection that occurred january 6. as ike tied that to what occurred as far as the angst regarding the tea party, disaffected white american voters if you will. trump is the representative. but he started to think about this, with all of the african-americans have been through from the birth of this country the civil war world war i, too, is a sleight of hand to tulsa oklahoma. and thousands degradation and violence that we have experience in this country. and not one damn time did we have steps of the capitol when it matters. we went with her hands out in our hearts open to march on w

been received politely by lincoln. johnson meets him, and he calls him the darky delegation, right? when they leave, his secretary recalls this nowadays we have hot mics that catch people say, you know, politicians sometimes are caught saying things that are really crude and awful. sometimes they just say it openly, but his secretary recorded this. and johnson said about this black delegation that had come to plead with him for black rights, the right to vote, et cetera, led by the great frederick douglass, these are his exact words and i pardon my french because he's a pretty crude guy. one of the crudest american presidents, actually. he says those damn sons of bitches thought they had me in a truth. i know that damned douglass, he's just like any, quote, nigger, and he would sooner cut a white man's throat than not. this is the president of the united states talking about a black delegation headed by frederick douglass coming to him. rarely have we seen presidents talk in that manner, right? and so his racism is acu

the first color in this hour comes in the land of lincoln, lincoln placed first in all four of the surveys, judah is in illinois a republican. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i like the first state i don't meet any box but i am a republican, my family has been republican since the emancipation proclamation. although the current state of my party, the party of lincoln seems to be frayed around the edges to say the least. things i have thought about while listening to your show this morning, was this insurrection that occurred january 6. as ike tied that to what occurred as far as the angst regarding the tea party, disaffected white american voters if you will. trump is the representative. but he started to think about this, with all of the african-americans have been through from the birth of this country the civil war world war i, too, is a sleight of hand to tulsa oklahoma. and thousands degradation and violence that we have experience in this country. and not one damn time did we have steps of the capitol when it matters. we went with her hands out in our hearts open to march on w

lucien tilton the tilton's had a rental agreement with the lincoln family to live there while the lincolns were in washington dc and so you find out a little bit about the lincoln home one thing that was shared with the lincoln home folks here was that they mentioned that the lady of the house played the piano for them and they said this is the first thing we've heard that there might have been a piano there now who put it there whether there's the tiltons or the lincolns that's for somebody else to figure out it's one of those little gems that you get from a letter if i had just a quick note on that. the vast majority of illinois soldiers fought in the western theater lincoln saw an awful lot of soldiers, but it was almost entirely in the eastern theater of operations. oh very good point. yes. that's that's correct a couple of questions here that tie in together first from brad in silver spring, maryland wants to know you touched on a little bit with one of the soldiers, but what did the soldiers write about lincoln and how is actions affected morale? all right, so there is a chapter call

friend of abraham lincoln, kind of a frenemy of abraham lincoln. definitely the most powerful in illinois it was not abraham lincoln's john hardin. john hardin was the first in illinois to volunteer. he leads the whole brigade of illinois soldiers down to mexico. and he dies there. >> let's start with illinois and hardin. we can talk about lincoln as well. let's begin a war that lease on the surface think after the war one could say that. surely there are pockets of dissent from the very beginning. that has expanded or enlarged over time. i think if i recall correctly, illinois set more to mexico than any other northern state. hardin is a wig. moe would expect him to be somewhat reluctant to do this. nonetheless he is out there in the forefront. can you talk a little bit about politics how that reverberates back to lincoln in his political future? >> i did not know a whole lot about illinois before i started researching this book. it was one of the great pleasures of researching this book was learning about hardin and learning about hardin's family

and so you find out a little bit about the lincoln home. one thing that was shared with the lincoln home folks here was that they mention the lady of the house played the piano for them. and they said, this is the first thing we've heard there might have been a piano there. now, who put it there whether it was the tiltens or lincolns, that's for somebody else to figure out. >> if i could add just a quick note on that, the vast majority of illinois soldiers fought in the western theater. lincoln saw an awful lot of soldiers, but it was almost entirely in the eastern theater operations. >> that's correct. >> a couple of questions that tie in together, you touched a bit on one of the soldiers letters, but what did the soldiers write about lincoln and how his actions affected morale? >> all right, so there is a chapter called leaders, generals and old abe. so soldiers wrote a lot about those that were over them, that were in charge and whether, you know, some of them were very happy with the decisions that were made and some were very critical.

by 1862 lincoln inched closer to black enlistment that remain tethered to an obstacle, border states. hunter did not help matters once word of his activity reach kentucky congressman charles with lyft, cliffs submitted a resolution that question the authority of pawn which underrated surgeon to mobilize black soldiers. secretary of -- he had not authorize such measures. with no support from stanton or lincoln and no means to pay his recruits, hunter disbanded the troops. lincoln regarded the measure premature and recorded the following explanation quote, to recruiting free negros, no objection, to recruiting slaves of the soil owners, no objection, to recruiting slaves of loyal owners with their consent, no objection, to recruiting slaves of loyal owners without consent, objection. endless and necessity is urgent. indeed, several months after he made the statement he drafted the preliminary proclamation, which did not include any provisions that authorized black troops. lincoln understood that the majority of americans were not ready to accept the idea of a black man -- union soldier

the 18 and end of 1862 when lincoln still until through november, lincoln was ovstill entertaining theove these people. thomas jefferson has stayed in virginia the presence would likely incompatible. >> package interrupt but that none of the state of virginia, that is a piece of work. it is bad. even says that orangutans in africa mate with others. [laughter] >> you had to make the case that africans are human beings. ngand members of the human community. in thomas jefferson put that in there. directly west refuting but what he says is that we all know that orangutans prefer african women being that top of the animal kingdom. or at the bottom of the human family and the great chain of beings. that's my reading and writing was important and why everybody reviewed this book. ... ... she had to go to london to get her bush published. voltaire wrote a front a letter and said i guess they can write poetry. [laughter] george washington joined in the role of the revolution, i'm in my kitchen, ladies and gentlemen, washington's headquarters for about a block and a half away from he brought to

and both richard benson and lincoln kerstein wanted to focus attention on it. they also wanted to get bostonians to inscribe the names of the members of the 54th on the back side of the memorial. so they published a book called "lay this laurel," which included a number of richard benson's photographs, as well as writings by lincoln kerstein. they selected writings by walt whitman, emily dickinson, frederick douglass and others. extremely beautiful publication. indeed, it did almost shame bostonians and others into taking better care of the memorial. the memorial was conserved, and the names of the 54th were inscribed on the back of it. we've concluded our exhibition with examples by two other artists who have continued to reflect on the importance of the 54th, seeing them as a symbol of cultural and racial pride. of course, the very well-known artist carrie may weems. this is from a series of photographs she made, "from here i saw what happened and i cried." it's a number of images that look back at how african-americans have been depicted by others over time.

for lincoln it will be a transition over time.will debut our first all the trick vehicle next year, which matches up with our 100th anniversary. we expect by 2026, that will be the inflection point point about 50% of our volume will be electrified. when we say by 2030 the whole lineup will be electrified, we think the majority of our volume like 70% to 80% will be electric. we will still have some of those examples running out as well. we are shifting to electrification of this timeframe, hence the big numbers about investments. matt: i am configuring my lincoln navigator here on the internet. the standard model is fine. i have chosen the black label. it starts at $98,600. what kind of margins are you making on this big behemoth? how important is it for your profitability? joy: we are certainly pleased with the receptivity of that black label you are talking about from our clients. it is as you referenced whatever higher-priced vehicle lines. we actually have a younger customer with a high household income that is really looking t

i'm a district one resident and i live not too far from lincoln park. i went on a walking tour to see this monument and learn the history of this area that had the cemeteries there and it's really a rich history and i strongly urge this become a city landmark and i would urge another hearing about the zoo. i think it's time for that to become a landmark and the planning commission staff as of all the paper work it needs to process the application. so i look forward to hearing on the mother's building project. thank you. >> clerk: thank you, mr. rossman. next speaker. >> hi, my name is grant ingraham. i'm a district one resident i'm also an chuck supporter of public golf in san francisco and i was part of the effort this past weekend which obtained the signatures of over 150 park golfers who expressed their concern about this initiative. and many of these golfers were seniors of asian heritage. we will not apologize we have real concerns that this initiative didn't consider the ongoing survival of the course. at the same time, every golfer i spoke to str

. >> a sturdy, humble heir to the respect and the affection all peoples felt for lincoln.ke, dwight d. eisenhower, the man from abilene. never in history have so many americans known so much about the very essence of one man. >> a hundred million americans know eisenhower the way you know a neighbor. we know him by heart. >> and why do we cheer for him? not because he is a general but because instinctively, we believe in him. we hail him as a hometown boy who is all the best about america. his roots are in the heartland, main street, usa. >> i come here first to thank you, to say the proudest thing i can claim is that i am from abilene. i want to speak first of the dreams of a barefoot boy. frequently, they are to be a streetcar conductor, for he sees himself as the town policeman. above all, he may reach the position of locomotive engineer. but always, in his dreams, is that day when finally he comes home. comes home to a welcome from his own hometown. >> the wheat fields of kansas claim ike as a native son. >> but the cotton and cattle state of texas staked first claim.

a divided people sought lincoln a century ago we seek eisenhower now.m every heart and horizon, from women and youth, from farms and factories, even from democrats who placed principle above party, from all the people of america the thunder grows. a century has brought the threat of a new slavery, but there is a new lincoln to meet the challenge statesman, soldier, citizen, mr. american dwight david eisenhower. >> middle and high school students, your opinion matters. so let your voices be heard with c-span's student cam video competition. be part of the national conversation by creating a documentary that answers the question "how does the federal government impact your life?" your five to six-minute video will explore a federal policy or program that affects you or your community. c-span's student cam competition has $100,000 in total cash prizes and you have a shot at a grand prize of $5,000. entries for the competition will begin to be received wednesday, september 8th. for competition rules, tips and more information on how to get started visit our