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now, your program host, national and syndicated columnist, llewellyn king, and co-host, linda gasparello. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> hello again. thank you for coming along. i would like to remind you this program is made possible by the arizona public service and its holding co., pinnacle west, and it's interesting chief executive. i promised you a special guest. here he is. george wilson, as i mentioned. ken, you have written a book called "family of freedom -- presidents and african-americans in the white house." you have been the white house correspondent of u.s. news and world report. that magazine has changed more than you have in 29 years. we all have. you have been broadcasting on sirius xm radio for several years now, george, and before that for a long time. >> also american urban radio networks. about 30 years on capitol hill. >> do you know where the men's room is now? >> yes. >> how has the business changed? >> obviously, it has got a nice lot young bear. i have to say there is not the same attention to detail. they want it fast. they