we have linda mathis. she is the ceo of the american red cross. talking earlier about the value of volunteers and you count on them every day. talk a little bit about we have blood marrow centers that are in just as much need as the blood donation centers themselves. >> we do encourage people who can donate bone marrow to do so. to find out about it and do so. charlene has done so much work to encourage people to do that. >> that's critical. >> it is critical. the best possibility of a match for a american with a blood disease is a ethnic group. if you're hispanic, if you're african american, if you're white, if you're asian you need to have your name on the computer. you need to have your protein typed so if someone has a need they can go to the computer, they can call you and they can say will you help? and there's a real integration of the work of marrow and of blood. and i want to say just about my family that my older sister is named for a blood bank because -- >> okay. >> the nurses at the hospital named her because my parents hadn't done th