and so linda rooney lives in media, pennsylvania. she's in the suburban collar and she's she's in the suburban collar around philadelphia that will settle pennsylvania yeah. in pennsylvania, may well-settled the election and people like her in other swing states are going to settle the election. what makes her interesting? she's a nikki haley voter. cast a ballot for nikki haley 67 weeks after nikki haley left the race almost 159,000 people did that in pennsylvania. so there's a target of opportunity for joe biden, republicans who don't like donald trump so much. they were willing to vote for nikki haley seven weeks after she left the race, but linda rooney voted for trump in 2016, that she voted for biden in 2020 because she couldn't take all the trump chaos, but she's a republican by dna. she doesn't like the biden policy agenda she thinks and we can debate this if you want that. he's become beholden to the left. she thought he was a centrist and he's become beholden. she doesn't like the economic policy. she said she cannot forgiv

so let me give you an example here, and you'll hear some sound here from a woman named linda rooney. she's a nikki haley voter. she voted for nikki haley two months almost after nikki haley get out of the race in the pennsylvania primary, she wants her party back. she voted for trump in 2016. she couldn't do it in 2020 says she voted for biden. now she is so torn because she's a republican by dna. she has won a vote to re-elected democratic president, but she can't stand donald trump. and so just, you talked about at the beginning about how so many americans, so we get this from the far left, the far right? so i really is this the best we can do? so listen to linda rooney wrestle with this choice in terms of your personal politics, you say a carrying conservative you decided to vote for nikki haley in the primary couple of months after she dropped out of the race? yeah. >> why yeah, i'm sad that we only have these two choices. >> honestly and i'm tired of celebrities sort of being in politics. i don't i don't like trump, but i have to say we are for us personally, we are better off w

and i'm and what i'm saying in the national party just didn't reflect my values the way it had linda rooneymp, but january 6 is an obstacle. i remember watching it on tv and i couldn't believe that it was happening and i was angry that he didn't trump didn't say something. they trump didn't stop it but yet you still might vote for i might. >> yeah mad for a whole day's is a georgia christian conservative pondering a third party vote because of doubts about trump's character honestly, i wish that there was another candidate that would have come through the primaries instead of being just donald trump? yes. many minds are already made up. but for those with doubts about both biden and trump, this is a giant test john's with me now, how critical i mean, do you think this debate is for a lot of those undecided, but i think it's enormously important because they're kinda stuck lieutenant governor doctor made the pointer always. a lot of people don't like either one. there are a lot of people who are soft biden or soft trump. a lot of people who are still looking around is that third party candid

. >> linda rooney, a registered republican, a trump voter in 2016, and biden in 2020 as her haley voter the protest the question, who are these people in the republican party that are shoving the center throats right now, like why can't we be why can't we elect someone normal rooney serves as a borrow election monitor he just said the other day that he won pennsylvania in 2020 no no yeah. we were laughing about it, but it's not funny now. it's not funny. >> she also says trump's conduct on january 6 was reprehensible. >> so, you know, i just can't i can forgive him for that. but rooney won't vote for biden again, i can't i don't trust them with the economy. my sons in the army, i don't i'm angry about afghanistan about that withdrawal. so honestly, i can't vote for them. >> so i have two choices. >> i can write someone in or i can hold my nose and vote for trump

then if he can shore up the democratic coalition that he can reach out to those republicans like linda rooney. she said she can and i forgive trump for january 6, but she might vote for him because she's a republican by dna, and it's really hard to vote to reelect a democratic president for trump i think it's really how we can comports himself because there are a whole lot of republicans, even republicans, haley voters, other republicans who voted for biden in 2020, who again don't want to vote to reelect biden. they're republicans. they want to be republicans, or they want the lower taxes they want. they think trump would close the border, but they can't stand the chaos of trump and so on the debate stage hold themselves together. i am fascinated to hear from them after tomorrow night, then i'm fascinated to see just support for the third-party candidates go down after this debate, two people feel more comfortable their choices, or does it go back up? if it started, if the third party numbers start to go up again, this rates gets even more and more complicated, right now. it's static. if loo