where linda shope worked on the baltimore voices project. she worked with betty key and is a driving force in oral history herself. and this really was a play which looked at baltimore neighborhoods and again widened their circle of documentation. and then we have another -- i'm sorry? and the tapes are here, right, exactly. ed did a tremendous project and the list goes on and on. and as you see this kind of work just builds on itself and creates a tremendous body of work that's looked nat in different ways including education. i think students through these kinds of pieces look at education differently. it didn't happen overnight and it didn't happen just in birmingham and the rock. it happened in baltimore and right in their neighborhoods. and they could get so much in-depth information when they hear the words of people that actually involve themselves and put their lives on the line and stood up and wanted to be counted. and when you get students interacting with history in that way, it makes a radical difference overall. i will say bett