lindell said he had 37 terabytes.table data or the proof, he said, which is visible in intercepted network data, or pack it, that it could be unencrypted to reveal a cyber attack occurred and votes were switched. but cyber expert josh merritt, on the team hired by mr. lindell to interrogate date for the symposium, told the washington times that the captures are unrecoverable in the data provided by mr. lindell, and that the data cannot prove a cyber incursion. so our team said, we're not going to say this is legitimate if we don't have confidence in the information. mr. merritt told the washington time on wednesday, the second day of the symposium. if you are someone confidently predicting that some amazing but highly improbable thing will happen in the future. think hard about when you say it will happen. about how you're promising, in terms of how specific your time frame is. enough people are on this train, right? where trump has led them to believe he is still rightful president. the election was stolen and the ev

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lindell, and that the data cannot prove a cyber incursion.r team said, we're not going to say that this is legitimate if we don't have confidence in the information, mr. merritt told the washington times on wednesday, the second day of the symposium. if you are someone who was confidently predicting that some amazing but highly and purple thing is gonna happen in the future, think hard about when your promising it will happen. some think about how much you're promising in terms of how specific your timeframe as. because, enough people are on this strain, where trump has led them to believe that he is still the rightful president, that the election was stolen, and that evidence exists of that and it can be revealed and it will be revealed. if you show your work and put out your supposed evidence to be checked, those trump folks are being led off a cliff in terms of their hopes and dreams and expectations. and it is easy to look down on them for that, it's easy to have sort of schadenfreude about that. but they are real people who are really in

cnn's drew griffin went to talk to lindell. >> reporter: mike lindell.ed the election. donald trump really won. and lindell has the absolute proof. >> they did it in all the states. every single state. every single state. >> and you have the proof? >> yes. >> that will show -- >> i have the -- >> -- the actual exchange of votes? >> yep. yep, 100%. 100%. >> reporter: it is, of course, complete nonsense, despite every piece of so-called evidence lindell has presented so far, three videos, a lawsuit, screenshots he sent to cnn. there's still no proof that the election was hacked and that's according to two-dozen cyberexperts and election officials contacted by cnn. >> 100% evidence. >> reporter: when lindell released his so-called evidence, in videos like this, fact checkers, quickly, found out it was evidence of nothing. these images are just publicly-available voter data. scrolling across the screen. not proof of election hacking. so, lindell changed his story saying, now, the real evidence will be revealed at a cybersymposium streamed live with mypillow

as we all notice there, mike lindell very defensive during this interview.ndering, what was your biggest unanswered question, your biggest takeaway after sitting down with lindell? >> the biggest question remains, jim, who is feeding him these lines? it's very clear to me mike lindell does not understand how we vote in the united states of america, nor does he understand cyber security anywhere in the world. so somebody is feeding him this. we have very good reason to believe this is just old conspiracy theorist scammers who have scammed other people and quite frankly, giving this information to mike lindell. we'd like to see where that is coming from and what exactly they are giving to him that makes him say what he is saying. >> he wouldn't say where he's getting this stuff? >> he would not. >> he's laplanning to give away mypillow discounts at this so-called symposium? >> his business crumbling. kicked out of the retail stores, as you know, jim, and have reported. so he has gone on to all of these random bizarre podcasts and got on these podcasts, quite f

>> reporter: we did what lindell did not do. we went to delta county, michigan, to see how the election was carried out. trump won here nearly 2-1. >> the state michigan, entry point or delta county -->> narrator: >> reporter: in his videos and lawsuit, he claims someone in china hacked and stole away precisely 3,215 trump votes and turned them into biden votes. the republican county clerk nancy presroki finds it infallible for one main reason. >> it is not connected to the internet, not at all, whatsoever. >> reporter: not only are they not connected to the internet, the votes are cast by hand on paper. voters scan this ballot into dominion storage machine where they keep a paper tally. the paper goes into this bin under lock and seal. >> that container is sealed. >> reporter: and just to check that everything went okay, they conduct audits, comparing the paper ballots to the results on the computer. and in 2020 it was an exact match. >> we audited three different p precincts and they matched exactly. >> reporter: what would yo

>> we did what lindell did not do.o one. >> the state, michigan. >> in his videos and his lawsuit, lindell claims someone in china hacked the election system here and stole away precisely 3,215 trump votes and turned them into biden votes. the republican county clerk finds the allegation laughable for one main reason. >> it is never connected to the internet. >> never? >> never connected to the internet. at all. whatsoever. >> not only are they not connected to the internet, the votes are cast by hand on paper. voters scan their ballots into this dominion scanning machine where two digital storage cards keep a tally. the paper ballot goes right into this bin under lock and seal. >> and that container is sealed. >> and just to check that everything went okay, they conduct audits comparing the paper ballots to the results on the computer. and in 2020, it was an exact match. >> we audited three different precincts. they matched exactly. >> what would you say to somebody who made a documentary that among many counties, acc

lindell says this is new material. it out, as he said, validating it. but as you can see so far, it just does not add up. don. >> thank you, drew. no words. no words. those are the people you're trying to convince that you should get vaccinated and there was no election fraud. good luck with that. >>> an officer who defended the capitol making the cover of "time" magazine. stay with us. sec otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins? heartburn happens when stomach acid refluxes into the esophagus. prilosec otc uses a unique delayed-release formula that helps it pass through the tough stomach acid. it then works to turn down acid production, blocking heartburn at the source. with just one pill a day, you get 24-hour heartburn protection. prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still runs marathons, right? sadly, not anymore. wow. so sudden. um, we're not about to have the "we need life insuran

where does dear mike lindell go from here? of pillows to sell, anderson. he's still got that going for him. but look, i mean, as you saw there, this event was so farcical, bizarre, wacky. i mean, it is laughable -- >> it looked hot in there. he was sweating a lot. he looked very uncomfortable. and were those slot machines like pushed to the side somewhere? >> yeah. i was trying to figure out if the slot machines were also rigged. i was trying to get the cyber experts to tell us something about that. >> who were those people in the audience? like what did they expect? i'm fascinated that they were disappointed. >> yeah. i mean, and here's the thing, right? even the biggest supporters of lindell, even the biggest believers in the big lie, who really wanted this to all come true this week, i mean, lindell has been talking about this for months, for weeks, even they were disappointed that lindell couldn't even show -- you know, even a shred of evidence. you know, to support these claims that he has had for so, so long. does it mea

lindell is not backing down. lindell's company is counter suing.re's the report. >> the my pillow guy. >> reporter: mike lindell, yes, china hacked the election, donald trump really won and lindell has the absolute proof. >> they did it in all the states. >> and they changed the votes. >> every single state and you have the proof. >> yes. >> that your show. >> i have the whole -- >> the actual exchange of votes. >> yep, yes, ma'am. hundred percent. 100%. >> it is of course complete nonsense. despite every piece of so-called evidence lindell has presented so far, screen shots he sent to cnn, there's no proof that the election was hacked and that's according to two dozen cyber experts and election officials contacted by cnn. >> a hundred percent evidence. >> when he released his evidence in videos like this, fact checkers quickly found out it was evidence of nothing. these images are just publicly available voter data scrolling across the string, not proof of election hacking, so lindell changed his story, saying now the real evidence will be reveale

according to mike lindell the president will accept the results and immediately step down. he even believes the supreme court will vote unanimously to install trump as president again. >> they don't even have to deliberate. donald trump won. we got a vote 9-0 immediately to pull this down and get rid of whatever the communists that are here. >> well, it's past 8:00 p.m. eastern on the 13th of august and you will be shocked to hear that joe biden is still the president of the united states. now, we could laugh at this craziness but it's dangerous. think about what a deeply perilous moment for our democracy when a man who sells pillows on cable television has convinced tens of millions of americans that a safe, secure, democratic election was stolen. earlier this week the pillow man held a bizarre multi level symposium where he planned to reveal his truth. he began the proceedings by blaming technical difficulties on a cyber attack and was unable to provide a single shred of evidence to prove his cause. >> wouldn't it be better for you to hand it over to as many cyber experts

'ranged it to share data lindell said proves trump won.ing and big lie backers would came to south dakota hoping it would prove their case, are leaving disappointed. among those watching this play out, donnie osullivan and tell us what you've been seeing and what have not been seeing? >> reporter: yes, exactly, john. this is been a very long three days, it is a three day event. we have seen no evidence. lindell has been making a serious and very specific claim that china hacked american voting systems an stole the election away from donald trump. and i want to play a clip for you, john, of a comment made by an attendee here at this conference yesterday which i really think sums up the sort of bizarre nature of all of this. have a listen. >> ladies and gentlemen, i'm not a computer guy. i don't know what most of this stuff means. but i've been researching this election since november 3rd. what the cnn's of the world, you need to start reporting this and stov fact checking it. >> reporter: so the journalist should stop fact checking. you hea

lindell's company is countersuing. drew griffin went to minnesota to talk to lindell himself.sation. what did he tell you? >> reporter: well, a lot of nonsense, victor, to be honest with you but he still has a big following. he's been shunned from fox, shunned from most of the retail world, but he's still out there selling his pillows and mostly selling this baseless conspiracy theory that somehow or another, foreign entities hacked and switched votes in this election. >> the mypillow guy. >> reporter: mike lindell, yes, the mypillow guy is convinced china hacked the election, donald trump really won, and lindell has the absolute proof. >> they did it in all the states. every single state. >> reporter: they changed the votes and you have the proof? >> yes. i have the whole -- >> reporter: that actual exchange of votes. >> 100%. 100%. >> reporter: it is, of course, complete nonsense, despite every piece of so-called evidence lindell has presented so far, three videos, a lawsuit, screen shots he sent to cnn, there's still no proof that the election was hacked, and that's accordi

mike lindell and sidney powell will move forward to trial.t does this mean for them and what does it mean about what we could all learn in terms of former president trump's attempts to overturn the election? >>> senator rand paul's wife purchased stock in a drug to treat the virus well before it was front page news. >>> plus stark warnings afghanistan could fall to the taliban much sooner than expected. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ there's a world where every one of us is connected. everyone. everywhere. where everyone is included. where everyone has access to information, education, opportunity. ♪ ♪ ♪ when everyone and everything is connected. that's really beautiful. anything is possible. good morning. cisco. the bridge to possible. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. the recipe we invented over 145 years ago and me...the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection. [music plays.] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> three major defamation lawsuits against the former president trump's allies now moving fo

the best part of that clip though, is how lindell involves everybody else in the room by telling themblown out of the water. like, whatever happens to him is happening to america "guys, bad news, the doctor called, and it looks like america has super high cholesterol. no more lunch ribs for america." [ light laughter ] by the way, as the symposium has been happening, a cyber expert who has examined lindell's supposed evidence apparently admitted they can't actually prove any of his claims. it's all, both, very complicated and also extremely insane. but to boil it down for you, "the washington times" reported that the key data underpinning the theory that china hacked the 2020 election unveiled at the cyber symposium is illegitimate. the cyber expert said we were handed a turd. yes, but in fairness, that's what they use to fill my pillows. rock hard, calcified turds honestly, poor cyber experts you go to school to get a degree in computer science, spend your whole career mastering a highly specialized skill that would be actually very helpful in today's high-tech economy, and then a ps

we spoke to lindell about the claims that threaten democracy. >> the my pillow guy?china hacked the election. donald trump really won. and lindell has the absolute proof. >> they did it in all the states. >> they changed the votes? >> every single state. >> and you have the proof? >> yes. i have it. >> the actual exchange of votes? >> yep, yep. 100%. 100%. >> it is, of course, complete nonsense, despite every piece of so-called evidence lindell has presented so far, three videos, a lawsuit, screen shots he sent to cnn. there is still no proof that the election was hacked. that's according to two dozen cyber experts and election officials contacted by cnn. >> 100% evidence. >> when lindell released his so-called evidence in videos like this, fact checkers quickly found out it was evidence of nothing. these images are just publically available voter data scrolling across the screen, not proof of election hacking. so he changed his story saying now the real evidence will be revealed at a cyber symposium, streamed live with my pillow discounts available throughout. and a

coming up next, my pillow's mike lindell promised proof of a baseless election fraud conspiracy.tnessed was an epic face plant. not for the first time. donny o'sullivan who spoke at this event joins us. ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ it's a new dawn... ♪ if you've been taking copd sitting down, it's time to make a stand. start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. and sav

>> reporter: lindell invited the media and cyber experts to the symposium.along and brought a world renowned cyber and voting machines expert. if you see something in there, if you see some data that seems legit, that does show that there was some sort of fraud, you are ready to investigate it, right? >> absolutely. i will follow the evidence wherever the evidence will go. >> re >> this was an attack, the whole technology was attacked. >> reporter: so the conference was supposed to begin about an hour ago. but lindell is having some problems with streaming live the event on his website. he is claiming without any evidence that it is because of an attack that his systems have been attacked. >> there are cyberattacks every day as you can see. >> reporter: and it went downhill from there. lindell ultimately didn't produce the data to prove his claim the election was stolen by china. >> i think the guy makes a wonderful pillow, but i wish some of this information would have been organized a little better. >> reporter: were you given any data at all from the 2020

li lindell seemingly put up a lot of his own money.erence were invited, they ate for free for the week, it was catered. what was stunning about it all, there was all this circus essentially. as you heard our cyber expert there, there was no anything. there wasn't even -- you know, he was sort of expecting to go and be handed over some form of data that might potentially, you know, involve more investigation at least, something they could really dig into. there wasn't even that. >> shocker. and this just in. donald trump is not going to be reinstated as president. especially based on what you saw. now, you noted the event included plenty of promotions for pillows and other products. how is lindell doing financially considering he's facing this massive lawsuit from dominion? it almost sounded like at the end of your piece that he's got a bit of a fire sale going for some of his products. >> yeah. look, to be honest with you, i think there's questions to be asked of who it is that lindell is getting this data from, who he's been paying to

mike lindell, seen here not buying crack.ll is being sued by dominion voting systems for $1 billion for his lies about election fraud. but he's not giving up. this week, he held a live-streamed cyber symposium, for which he hired a cyber expert "red team" and gave them what he said was 37 terabytes of irrefutable evidence that hackers broke into election systems using intercepted "packet captures." packet captures, of course, is a technical term that you might know by their street name, "pillow cases." ( laughter ) well, the cyber results are in: lindell's team announced that they can't prove his claims that china hacked the election. when asked why, they said, "we were handed a turd." ( laughter ) ( applause ) and that turd lost the election. ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) cnn called out lindell's cyber-nonsense, and that didn't sit too well with one attendee. >> ladies and gentleman, i'm not a computer guy. i don't know what most of this stuff means. but i've been researching this election since november 3. but the cn

when it comes to lindell, his late last fantasy in front of south dakota this week.r lies in the power that he has and the power that these big lies actually hold. fact-checkers, experts try to chip away at it. there are all these different variations of voter fraud nonsense that continue to get ample air time all across pro-trump media. maybe that's why dominion voting systems keeps filing lawsuits. we saw dominion pushing forward with legal battles this week suing one america news and newsmax as well as the former ceo of overstock.com. dominion is claiming that all of these entities defamed the company last winter when trump promoted the fraud claims. also in the past week a federal judge cleared the way for dominion's defamation lawsuits against rudy giuliani and others. that means these cases are moving forward even though lindell and powell tried to get them dismissed. so, here we are more than six months after the big lie took formation, and these battles are being waged in the courts against lindell and fox and news max and others. so let's talk about the impl

mike lindell, the pile owe guy, has become really one of the loudest proponents of the big lie.ths he has been making very specific, but very serious claims that china hacked america's voting systems and flipped the election, stole it from trump. and he, for weeks, has been inviting the media, cyber experts here to south dakota where he said he would show data that would prove these false claims, but we haven't seen any such proof, any such data. and i want to show you, just to give you an example of the sort of carry-on that's going on here. take a look at this clip from yesterday of one of the speakers on the main stage. >> ladies and gentlemen, i'm not a computer guy. i don't know what most of this stuff means, but i've been researching this election since november 3rd. but the cnns of the world, you guys need to stop reporting this and start fact checking it. >> reporter: yeah. so, always a red flag if at a cyber symposium, one of the main speakers is saying, i'm not a computer guy, but. there are some cyber experts here, and there are cyber experts we have been speaking to

trump is refusing to help rudy giuliani pay his legal bills, and my pillow ceo, mike lindell, who's alsosued for defamation, had yet another meltdown at a so-called cyber symposium. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ >> seth: before we get to all that, the big news in politics right now, of course, is the resignation of new york governor andrew cuomo, who's slinking away in disgrace after a long run as one of the most corrupt and cynical bullies in politics. not to mention, a host of the weirdest kids' show in history >> today is saturday >> seth: thank you terrifying man you know, it's hard to sue the soul of a nation when you sound like chazz palminteri's stuntman anyway, a report by the attorney general found that cuomo sexually harassed 11 women, and let's not forget his administration also covered up the covid death toll in nursing homes. it's got to be the worst thing he's covered up since his nipples. i guess, they also knew how bad things were, and they were trying to get the hell out of there. those things are like porcupine quills they attack when they're threat

they're as much of a culprit as mike lindell is.nn applebaum and donny deutsch, appreciate it. >>> with over half of americans getting their news from facebook and all the lies and conspiracy theories that have been spread on facebook and continue to be spread on facebook, there are a lot of americans, including myself, that share donny's frustration. >> yeah. there's no question about it. and what can be done about it. what's the next step? what are the teeth that the government has, if it is the government, that's going to take the effort because facebook isn't willing to go far enough to stop some of that. >>> we are at the top of the hour, 7:00 on the east coast. the biden administration is looking at every option it says in an effort to get more americans vaccinated. the white house is now considering using federal regulatory powers and the threat of withholding federal funds to get people who work at nursing homes, cruise ships vaccinated. talks are in an early phase but it's looking at the delta variant spreading more quickly

you know, lindell is already kicking the can a little bit.t might be september because it's taking so long to expose the fraud. might be a little bit longer. i would assume there's going to be more can kicking and whatever happens with arizona is a whole disaster because that audit is a joke and nothing is going to be found. but they're going to need to answer for the fact that they have been drifting off of the fake audit, selling $40 copy of the movie of how it was all rigged and at some point the check is going to have to be cashed, but there's no money there. so, you know, that's where i worry about some of these people who have gotten a little bit unstable thinking the deadline has come, the deep state got into it, they stopped it. i'm going to have to get in there myself and take matters into our own hands and not some crap that mike lindell is saying but taking it all in and waiting for it to happen and then it doesn't happen. something snaps and they grab a gun and only takes one person to do that out of potentially millions of believ

rudy giuliani, sidney powell and my dhs pillow executive ceo mike lindell sued for billions in dallasion voting systems which is the company they falsely accused of election fraud. let's talk about this now with cnn law enforcement correspondent whitney wild and former head prosecutor from morris county new jersey and a host on the law and crime network robert bianci. whitney, tell us what has happened in this -- it's procedural but it's important. >> right, right. robert can get into the meating of the procedural moment. but i'll tick through the facts. dominion is bringing this lawsuit against sidney powell, rudy giuliani, mike lindell basically saying the damage they did spreading this misinformation about their voting machines somehow rigging the 2020 election was so damaging that they should have to cough up $1.5 billion, $1.3 billion. that is in addition to the two other lawsuits that dominion filed earlier this week against these right wing outlooks perpetuating this election law, their machines rigged this election for joe biden, which is obviously not true. in those lawsuits

applebaum calls michael lindell, the pillow's guy name a lover of myths.as a warning of how dangerous he is. ann applebaum joins me now a fellow at the john hopkins school of international studies and wrote the important book "twilight of democracy." ann, i wondered, first of all, welcome to the show. i wondered when i saw this thing, i wonder why you would do this and give this guy oxygen. but as soon as i started reading it, i understood what you were doing here. you were telling us how he operates and how he ticks and compelling right from the beginning. he does believe this. he is not manipulative for the sake of it, he believes this stuff. >> oh, yes, i think there are different categories of people in that world and some of them are clearly cynical. he is not one of them. i originally wanted to meet him because i have written several books about soviet and i had a lot of experience with true believers in genuinely wrong or evil ideas and i thought this was the chance to meet one of them in real life. and his genuine confidence comes from a lot of thi

oan has aired films by mike lindell, the mypillow guy.he end of the week. it is coo coo talk but it is airing on television right down the dial from cnn. it looks like real news even though it is the fakest of all and it is still alive and unwell. >> thank you. >>> a dangerous standoff over macs now pinning public against politicals and kids who are caught in the middle. the details are next. ive to see? at morgan stanley, a global collective of thought leaders offers investors a broader view. ♪ we see companies protecting the bottom line by putting people first. we see a bright future, still hungry for the ingenuity of those ready for the next challenge. today, we are translating decades of experience into strategies for the road ahead. we are morgan stanley. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. the recipe we invented over 145 years ago and me...the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection. when i get a migraine, i shut out the world. but with nurtec odt that's all b

and by the way, lindell is still -- he's still fighting that lonely fight.e was on oan the other day complaining about fox news and mispronouncing a bunch of anchors names. but otherwise things, you know, it seems like things are going pretty well for him. >> this is disgusting. --sues good ole oan heroes oans heroes. oans are heroes. where's fox? where's fox? newsmax -- they sue oan and newsmax. fox, you need to step it up and help save our country. i've seen stuff by jam bongino on there he goes, "i say whatever i want in my show," and people are going after him? why don't you call and interview me sean hannity told me once, he said, "mike, i can say anything i want on fox as long as it's the truth. well, the truth is, sean, we had a cyber symposium and the truth is you're not saying anything on your show. neither are you, laura trunker tried a few times to talk about the 2020 election i give him some credit you know, maybe, i thought that might be a breakthrough. it was a couple weeks ago, but none of them were talking. what is fox doing to you are you gu

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this hour mike lindell no longer in bed with fox news.aughing matter. >>> plus, when does political affinity cross into dangerous cult-like support. jackie speier who survived the jonestown massacre is here with her perspective.

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i think it is notable they're calling out mike lindell as well. he is facing lawsuits and yet he is out there today as we speak holding a big event claiming he has the proof of election fraud, claiming trump will get back into office. we are living in a world that -- where there are a lot of sane people looking at something simply insane happening, pushing the big lie nine months at this point. i think if you are a company like dominion, the only thing you can do to deal with the insanity is actually go to court. whether they will win, whether they will prevail with the defamation lawsuits time will tell. it might take years to find out, but clearly thecompanies believ they have to be aggressive in defending the truth. >> brian stelter, good to have you with us. thank you for being with us on this busy news day on a tuesday. i will see you back here tomorrow at 1:00 eastern. in the meantime don't forget to follow me on twitter @anacabrera. the news continues next with victor blackwell. it's the sound of a thousand sighs of relief and of a company

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somebody like mike lindell and lynwood have enormous sway in this community. they are trusted figures, truth tellers and when they say things like trump is going to reinstated by august, people listen to that. i know he's taking the canceled it, it might be september because it's taking so long to expose the fraud, might be a little longer. i would assume there will be more can kicking. whatever happens with arizona is going to be just a whole disaster because that audit is a joke and nothing is going to be found, what they're going to need to answer for the fact they have been going off his fake audit for months now selling $45 copy of this movie about how it was all rigged and at some point the check is going to have to be cached but there's no money there. that's what i worry about some of these people with gotten a little bit unstable. that deadline has come. the deep state got into it. they stopped it. i'm going to get in there myself and take matters in my own hands. that's the worrisome thing for me is not sudden crap mike lindell is saying but the q be

south dakota and we were speaking to that gentleman at a three-day event by the my pillow ceo mike lindellove his so far baseless claims that the election was hacked by china and stolen from trump. we will have more details on that tomorrow night, but i can tell you as of now, we're into this three-day convention and we haven't seen any evidence to support lindell's claims. >> well, enjoy the next day or two. appreciate it. want to hear more of what you find. join cnn later this month for a star filled celebrations as new york tries to wind down from the pandemic. bruce spring seen, paul simon, many more taking part. it's august 21st here on cnn. had the expected covid announcement that could affect millions of americans. dr. sanjay gupta talked to me about it. what changed? that's next. what if you could have the perspective to see more? at morgan stanley, a global collective of thought leaders offers investors a broader view. ♪ we see companies protecting the bottom line by putting people first. we see a bright future, still hungry for the ingenuity of those ready for the next challenge.

and mike lindell, even among the most die hard trump supporters is losing a lot of his followers recently. so they realize it was just him saying this. there is nobody in trump's orbit saying this. the dog whistle is still out there. donald trump is still sort of dog whistling that he's going to be reinstated somehow. saying he might come back sooner than 2024, something like that. don't worry is not that sort of thing. the road war is the violence when people get desperate. we can see with qanon supporters and others for a. sun >> gentlemen, thanks to you for starting us out this evening. ben rhodes, ben collins, and ravi perry. pleasure to have spoken to you this evening. >> coming up, parents a school leaders are fighting republican governors to escape their school kids safe as it delta is raging unready wreaking havoc on the new school year. one, two! one, two, three! only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ millions of vulnerable americans stru

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with this huge lawsuit now proceeding against them and mike lindell, former president trump's lawyers and his surrogates that have been pushing these trash theories for him are facing increasingly serious consequences for doing so. even as the department of homeland security warns that the consequences for the country might be more political violence this month. for president trump, of course, there's been no negative consequences whatsoever for soaking any of the stuff, but everybody working on his behalf as seen things get significantly more dire. so, like i said, a lot of news still unfolding over the course of the night tonight. there is lots to get to. stay with us. to. stay with us and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can

saying this and mike lindell, even among the most die hard qanon trump supporters, is losing a lot of support recently. they realized it was just him saying this, there was nobody in trump's orbit saying this. the dog whistle is still out there. donald trump is still kind of dog whistling that he's going to reinstated somehow, saying he might come back sooner than 2024 or something like that. the worry is not that sort of thing. the worry is the violence when people get desperate. you're already seeing with qanon supporters, you could see it with others very soon. >> gentlemen, thanks for helping us out this evening. ben rhodes, ravi perry, ben collins, a pleasure to speak with you this evening. >>> coming up, delta is already wreaking havoc on the new school year. for what you need. hot dog or... chicken? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ so, you have diabetes, here are some easy rules. no sugar. no pizza. no foods you love. stressed? no stress. exercise. but no days off! easy, no? no. no. no. no. but with freestyle libre 14 day, you can take the mys

thank you so much as a dave, it was to have you on the program that was dave lindell founding out of this can't be happening. make sure, having a comedian jimmy talk has some advice for washington on how to avoid such humiliation that we were just discussing here. he said it would actually returns, you know, he's going underground. do you want a u. s. intervention a military intervention? tell me about which country you want the u. s. intervening. and i think it's about, i mean, because a lot of people are saying we need to stay in afghanistan to help the women. i say, how about united states takes about 3 or 4000 troops and invade los angeles and brings health care and medical aid, and shelter to the 60000 homeless people in los angeles. how about we invade the inner cities of america, and we bring health care to those people? we bring shelter to those people. we bring medicine to those people. we bring counseling to those people. how about we invade america? and we start trying to help america. when is, when is america going to care about the women? and, you know, one out of 5 kids