. >> linden johnson raised taxes. you had a great period of growth and prosperity in the 1960 you wanted evidence, there you go. >> you can't. the economic booms, give clinton credit. there was an internet boom. any move he could have been president at the time. the economy could have went to the moovenlt you could have raised tacks to the moon. no one would have cared. it's true, people were investing in stocks and making money then. you could attach the guilt, we would have been okay with it. it's a different time. it's not like that. to tax people trying to get business going, slowing be you cut them off at the knees, take away their tax credits? that makes no sense. >> bush raised the tax, then we had the 90s, clinton on the high end. these were good times with low budget deficits, ultimately. gary's point, it would make sense if they take our money spend a it, it's a question of are we going to borrow it and head down the green path? if you have to choose between funding the government spending with our tax reven

second, it failed to heed the lesson that a cold war president linden johnson learned in vietnam that of gradualism. compel him to do something or cease doing something, the many occasion of the pain in gradual incremental doses only enables that adversary to ache claim mate ache acclaim mate. >> to your point. richard nixon another cold war president in his super power negotiations with the soviet union actively encouraged kissinger that he the president mad or nuts capable of doing anything. president obama in this situation seek continually to reassure putin of his reasonableness, his aversion to he escalation and rest assured putin is getting that message. >> do you think that president obama understands as dr. reuben just said that this is going to have all kinds of repercussions in other theaters that they see the u.s.a. as weak, they being china, north korea, karzai, iran, syria, on and on and on, do you think the president understands that? or kerry understands it? >> i think they do understand it ours is an interconnected world and that the travel of information is very swift

so, trillions over 65 years and, again, i don't know where the 65 years came from, certainly linden johnson. >> right. >> i guess the 15 years before that i guess he's blaming eisenhower, because if you go back 65 years you've got eight years of the eisenhower administration. i guess paul is so eager to make the political point he's picking on poor old ike. >> they don't like ike. we didn't have time to cover ukraine with you, congressman. next time. good to see you again. >> thank you. >> barney frank joining us from massachusetts. >>> a shark is heading to post nine. he may be known as mr. wonderful. we'll see how kind his words will be for radioshack. "shark tank's" kevin oherely 'l. [ male announcer ] we know they're out there. you can't always see them. but it's our job to find them. the answers. the solutions. the innovations. all waiting to help us build something better. something more amazing. a safer, cleaner, brighter future. at boeing, that's what building something better is all about. ♪ at boeing, that's what building something better is all about. ameriprise asked people a si