oval office conversations of linden johnson that were recorded by linden johnson that are the greatestcivics lesson you could ever imagine, and you can see there very clearly why he had this top relationship with congress. he could talk to everybody in congress about everything about their family, about their -- i won't go that far. anyway, it's fantastic if you have never listened. >> highly entertaining at times. >> how did you decide where to rank william henry harrison? like wasn't he in office for 30 -- >> it's hard on the presidents who came in below him. >> but how do you rank things with relations with congress, foreign affairs? >> that's a question that will have to remain unanswered. i have no idea why these 100 people would put him where they put him, it's probably their dislike for the ones below him. a good question, though, because there are a lot of other questions that can be asked and not answered if you study this survey closely. >> a quick comment on it. it was a lot easier to think through the top five than the bottom five at least to me that try to figure out who r

linden johnson. >> you all heard of him. [ laughter ] >> and there was taft. and ike. when democratic party took control of the senate johnson became majority lead earnhardt the two of -- leader and the two of them couldn't have been more opposite.r the two of -- leader and the two of them couldn't have been more opposite. it's a fascinating study. a wonderful compliment toopposi. it's a fascinating study. a wonderful compliment to studying ike. one of the signature achievements, i mean, they really went at it, linden johnson was really trying to under cut eisenhower. there's a fascinating story about getting the 1957 civil rights act through. johnson is a southerner and democrat and he had to deal with his faction of southern democrats who were very hostile to civil rights and desegregation and to warren and brount decision. here comes eisenhower and says i want to strengthen the powers of the justice department so attorney general can investigate, go down in the south, say things like the emmitt till murder cannot happen, those guys walking free. which is what happene