lindenberg was known all over germany in the communist east you couldn't buy his songs easily these german fans would secretly record them when they were played on west german radio stations and copy them for friends. and get with them and they became very popular in the east these pirated cassettes and so i knew i had a lot of friends that. a lot of people who liked it and i wanted to get to know them i wanted to go there and take off my glasses and say hello come a little bit closer. bag was only allowed to perform once in east germany you know the $983.00 at the palace still have to be combining but it's true fans remained outside to see perform just to hand selected good as a card carrying communist. if this was only possible for linden back after the burden wall had fallen as soon as he heard the momentous news he's being stright to belive. i got to berlin very quickly and i had disguised myself a bit no hat but rather some cap and weak painted bit and then i hit the streets and ran around for days on end on them occasionally repeating who i was and they just didn't believe it is this

and we can speak now to ethan lindenberg at the global vaccination summit in brussels ethan's a leading critic of anti vaccine campaigns ethan thank you for joining us we have to start with your personal story because you got vaccinated against your mother's wishes tell us what happened. yeah of course when i was growing up my mom believe that actions cause autism and brain damage and show a lot of misinformed perceptions about vaccines and so when i turned 18 i had the legal option to get back to my home state of ohio in the u.s. so i pursued that and got vaccines for measles polio and other really extreme diseases that i previously was not vaccinated against because of those missed this information that she was given and even how did she react to that. well so because of the misinformation brought it to her and these false ideas that vaccines were dangerous getting my vaccines was scary to her she thought that i could potentially harm myself and encouraging my siblings to harm themselves as well and even still she hold this belief said things that my advocacy and talking about this pu