so john walker lindh is far ahead of this curve here.and he ends up in the cross hairs of the afghan war. he is going to study arabic in yemen and beyond that because he doesn't -- he actually ends up in bin laden's brigade and end up in this fortress in mazda sharif that forms one of the last part of horse shoulders, discovered in the bible the shocking world about how the young americans were in california and that the this fortress. and so, he's in there because he represented at the time i was writing the book in their story is less unusual i guess it's what i'm trying to say today because we're finding out that more people are soon to be attracted to this or he, driven by these ideals. it's so interesting that he left a very permissive environment in california and ran straight into the arms of probably one of the least permissive environments. and i don't know. we can speculate on all this, but furans tragically, tragically, you know, one of the first people to be killed after 9/11 was an officer named mike spann and he comes face-