the same fight being fought in albuquerque, played out by lindsay davis last week. and we ask you if there will ever be a middle ground for this age old debate. do we have any hope here? medical says: and we have melanie: >> what do you think? ground? >> if we're really talking middle ground. abortions at 20 weeks. it sounds very middle. but the discussion shouldn't be about middle ground. it should be about human rights, and this idea that abortion is an american freedom. i think that's perverse. women's empowerment shouldn't be reduced to be able to kill our children. this idea that we're empowered through abortion is a lie. are women being empowered by boyfriends taking them to a clinic saying you have to do this, and bosses saying you're not going to get the promotion. there are so many cases but in every case, you see in the more severe cases, desperation, i have to do this. we can do better as women than to kill children, especially these children that are feeling the pain. [ talking at the same time ] >> antoinette, what are the consequences to women's rights