on the capitol hill earlier food, to speak with both john mccain, two republican senators and lindsay graham as they came out of a closed intelligence briefing. had some very harsh words but for the administration as well. >> he is paranoid, and irrational. but like most people with paranoia, there is a basis for that. and when he reads that the united states is planning on having everybody out by 2017, then think makes accommodations such as trying to negotiate with the taliban. that is completely unctionble. >> yes, they say, karzai is paranoid, as john mccain put, but he has no choice, but at this point to negotiate, and recall this is something that the united states has been trying to get to sit down for some time. you remember that big blow up, when the taliban showed up, flew their flag, and karzai left in a huff, saying we are not negotiating. apparently he has gone behind the united states back, and is talking directly to the taliban. >> mike, there is another issue that the white house is dealing with that report. the congressional budget office that says that the affordable care a

let's bring in lindsay graham, south carolina republican, thank you for being here this morning. >> thankthese are explosive hearings we are witnesses and what do you make of what the attorney said? >> i think it is representation of what the president's administration was doing. the president said there was not a bit of corruption and how does he know that if the investigation is ongoing and how could you say that when learner pled the fifth amendment. if this e-mail doesn't wake up the justice department to criminal activity, nothing will. >> i would guess the president regrets saying this. this wasn't getting attention until he claimed the investigation is over. there have been hearings on that and it is done he said. that is what has been bringing attention back to the story. >> i hate to say this about the president, but he isn't a trustworthy fellow when it comes to scandals. when he signed to health care law about liking your plan and you can keep it, it will be within the budget, he is telling us things we want to hear. he tells the nation there is not a smidge of corruption when

the vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee and senator burr, and along with senator lindsay graham, these are serious allieses. and i like mike morell and he has done a lot for this country. but at the time when he testified, it left murkiness. and no one had comb any skwrs for how the talking points got changed. i think mr. morell should come up voluntarily to the house and senate committee to clarify this. for a long time we have known nothing made sense on how the talking points got changed. he may hold the key. >> they testified and came back in the afternoon and said he misspoke. let me show you the e-mail to fox news. >> i stand behind what i said to you and testified to congress about the talking point issue. neither the agency or analyst or i cooked the books in any way. do you buy his exmrning a or do you want to know more? >> that is fine. no one is accusing that the cia cooked the books. the issue is, is what involvement did the white house have and who made the actual changes. we know from talking to people on the ground that al-qaeda was responsible for this. they knew

republican congressman dain na roar bacher telling on the administration as to stop looking for lindsay grahams spokesman for the party. here's what he said reports of secretary of state kerry privately told a group of lawmakers, graham and mccain, that he supported a more aggressive policy towards syria. >> there's a lot of other -- a lot of resentment in the party that these two guys are presenting themselves as spokesmen for the republicans. they are not spokesmen for the republicans. they are spokesmen for themselves. and as we all have that right. >> it's a right certainly that mccain and graham exercised vigorously. >>> an embarrassing admission from the cia director john bren entoday. he said he couldn't remember whether he traveled to libya after the benghazi terrorist attack. >> richard brennan, were you in tripoli in october of 2012 to review the benghazi attack as a member of the national security council? >> no, i do not believe -- i don't recall exactly when i was there, but i was not there after the attack. >> i was in libya in october of 2012, just checked with my staff. >> it's

so lindsay graham, republican senator and several others saying the government is doing is essentiallyoerce. do you agree? >> coercion is a strong word. i think strong promotion is a pretty accurate way to describe it. in the race to the top program that was part of the economic stimulus package, as well as no child left behind waivers which were regulatory relief offered by the department of education. those encouraged states to adopt the common corps. standards or common and college career ready standards. gerri: okay. before we get too deep in to this. what graham is saying he's not talking about the details which were eloquently put forward by you moments ago. he's talking about the fact the government is putting money on the substantial and that's encouraging states to get involved. however, states are just now finding they are going to be on the hook as well for as much as $12 billion. $10 billion up front and $800 million in seek of the success of seven years. it's a huge amount of money. how is it possible these states can even afford it given what has been going on with state

was speaking with john mccain up on the hill earlier throwing around terms like paranoid as was lindsay grahamdescribing karzai. and here is the essential issue, the united states wanted karzai to sign this bilateral security agreement that outlines the posture of american forces said to be about 10,000 after this year. when the american combat role is over. karzai has refused to sign. says he wants to wait until the spring until a new president comes in. american officials are very upset about it. and now we learn via the new york times, and the karzai spokesman today did not deny this, that there have been secret talks with the taliban cutting out american forces and envisioning a future without americans there on the ground, obviously a lot of people are upset. obviously a lot of people are looking to the president, the recent precedent in iraq with no american forces there and chaos reigning in fallujah and ramadi and other places as well. republicans were upset today they accused the white house of floating a plan, even when there is an agreement to have owl u.s. troops out in 2017, three

and lindsay graham and john mccain unloading on the senate about urging a new round of testimony in the benjamin case from mike moral and david putrays. watch this. >> the american people were misled. >> the story told by susan rice and the president collapsed. it isn't credible. it is fabrication. >> it was all about a presidential campaign and the narrative that laden is dead. the american people were badly misled. >> the house intelligence committee is going to recall mi mike michael morell. rich lowry is here, editor of the national review and a fox news contributer. john mccain and graham want to keep this alive. there are new revelations with michael morell. >> i commend them for staying on this because the press wants it to go around. there has been eye-rolling in the mainstream media that has o interest on this. michael morell is the focus now because he crafted the talking points about what misled the country and whether he has been upfront about his role and how the process worked. >> there were the redacted part and a memo with 10-15 talking points. some were crossed out. som

guest: that was with lindsay and john mccain. -- i likeke to say lindsey graham and john mccain was ourties nominee. i wish people in the immediate would quit focusing and i wish the administration would quit focusing on lindsay and john mccain as spokesman for the party, because they are not. there was a lot of resentment that these guys are presenting themselves as spokesmen for the republicans, and they are not spokesmen for the republicans that spokesmen for themselves, as we all have that right. host: what is different with what they say and what republicans think? , whereon immigration their views are not reflective of a large number of republicans. host: back to the situation with syria. guest: i think the american people are were wearing -- war weary. we made a mistake. i voted to support george bush at the time. it was a mistake to follow george bush into iraq. in so manytrillion thousands of lives that were destroyed. those who died and those who have broken bodies and now we have to take care of them for the next 10 and 20 years. it was a mistake. lindsey graham and john mcca