well, lindsay graham and i were in baghdad when they awe agreed that we should. do you know of any public statement the president made at the time or since that he wanted to leave any troops behind? you will not find that because he didn't. in fact, he bragged about the fact that everybody was out. and so it created a vacuum. maliki alienated the sunni and the rest of the story you know. >> last question, senator, do you have the confidence of the president with his strategy has the ability and willingness to pull this through? or do you believe maybe poll numbers are driving the president's speech tonight? >> i'm very worried about half measures. i want to -- the status quo is unacceptable. so all i know is that although i'm very, very skeptical, i'm willing to give it a try because the situation today is -- look, they're going to attack the united states of america. you know mr. baghdadi, their leader, when he left, our prisoner in iraq said see you in new york. >> see you in new york and raise the flag of islam in your white house. thank you, senator. >> thank

to drop a nuclear bomb on iraq, lindsay graham would complain the mushroom cloud wasn't big enough. it seems to be that there's nothing that can be done to satisfy that wing of the crowd, the dick cheney wing of the party. when push comes to shove, it does look like they'll get on board, the congress, at least for the first round of funding for the training in syria and ultimately down the road, at least if public opinion holds up, they will be pushed to support this overall. >> now, congressman, in this anxiety and skepticism, what you'd expect after a decade in the middle east, last week, speaker boehner said he'd back the president's plan for isis. listen. >> we stand ready to work with the president, to put in place a plan that would destroy and defeat isil. frankly, we ought to give the president what he's asking for. >> but now we are hearing that house republicans will try to limit president obama's aid to moderate syrian rebels. first it was give him what he's asking for. now they appear to be trying to tie his hands. is politics coming back into this? >> one year ago, the p

lindsay graham and chuck schumer are the two nominees where i would like to see that happen. >> does me a bad person to vote for nancy pelosi sph. >> no because you are a woman. you are a feminist. >> a woman can ham -- can handle it. you can say it and you are saying empower meant. >> i don't want her to get hurt. i don't care if it is filled with squishy marshmellows. all of the politicians need a round. they should have let him finish his term. >> did he deserve it? >> it seemed like he deserved it. >> he has been lobbying to squash any political protest. he is destroying civil liberties in ukraine and he was aligned. >> i am just happy it wasn't a homeless person trying to sleep in the dumpster. i am relieved. >> a good heave-ho from the ankles. >> i didn't find this that funny. these people÷r÷z fiend it funny. >> i feel it was justice. >> i have to tell you that i didn't find it that funny either. >> things like that can go really, really wrong, really, really fast. and it appears he didn't badly get hurt, but i have seen mob situations that can go out of control. >> that's true

lawmakers like lindsay graham are still in the vocal minority. there are certainly some calling, graham and mccain, the two am igoes. but there is not widespread agreement yet that ground troops are needed. you talk to democrats and republicans, they say i'm willing to engage, to gib the president the a -- authority to use air strikes and to team up with these guys but not ground troops. at some point that is impractical. what if you get to the point where we're doing well, 70% there, but 90,000 ground troops would get us there, and that is why i think you are going to see calls and plans put in place to have a broader discussion about this after the elections. steny hoyer, the majority whip, suggested that. there may be plans to bring this up again and talk about it, whether it is resolved before christmas, that's unclear but there are glowing -- growing calls so -- to have eye more substantive debate. there have been very principled arguments on this this week and a lot of people agree, well, we have such poor approval ratings at this point, if

impression of everyone who fell out of bed hungover sunday morning and turned on the tv to see lindsay grahamre we all get killed back here at home. (laughter) really? (laughter) (cheers and applause) >> jon: all of us? (laughter) of course-- of course we have to take the-- we're all going to die-- we have to take it very seriously because of lindsey graham's reputation for even keeled understatement like when he was talking about not letting people have assault weapons. >> if my family was in the cross hairs of gangs that were roaming around neighborhoods in new orleans or any other location, the deterrent agent of an ar-15 to protect my family i think is greater than a double barrel shotgun. (laughter) >> jon: on balancing the budget. >> all this talk about fear, it's real. we're on an unsustainable path when it comes to our nation. >> jon: on iran's nuclear program. >> we're walking down the road to armageddon. >> jon: the poor man lives his entire life trapped in the blair witch project. for god's sakes, i have seen chi wawas in handba handbags-- chihuahuas in handbags who are less fretfu

reporter: feinstein even said she agreed with her republican colleagues, senators john mccain and lindsay graham. in a "new york times" op-ed, the senators call on the president to take action against isis in syria, writing, continuing to confront isis in iraq, but not in syria, would be fighting with one hand tied behind our back. but the president had his defenders of the deliberative approach he's taking. >> you just don't rush in. because the media is talking about it. >> reporter: and there are fresh concerns today about westerners signing up to join isis, after a 16-year-old girl suspected of trying to reach syria to fight with the terrorist group was arrested in france. hundreds of americans are involved with the group, according to congressman mike rogers. >> it's in the hundreds. that we believe have at least one time traveled and participated and trained with them. >> reporter: as the president prepares to travel to a nato summit in wales, the dual crisis in syria and iraq and russia's incursions into ukraine are likely to cast long shadows over what may be the most important allied co

. >> let me ask you about senator lindsay graham. >> it's going to take an army to beat an army and this idea that we will never have any boots on the ground is fantasy. i will not let this president suggest to the american people we can outsource our security and this is not about our safety. there is no way in hell you can form an army on the ground to go into syria to destroy isil without a substantial american component. >> i think that would be a grieveous mistake. i don't think that has much support for the congress or the country and i think for good reason. >> sit a real threat. the most proximate threat remains al qaeda. still among the most dangerous to us in the near term. but if isil is left, allowed to consolidate. that can't be allowed to happen. these fighters are coming from europe. >> congressman, appreciate your time. >> much more on isis straight ahead. the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and the

pentagon that they were only the beginning and a sentiment echoed by the white house and senator lindsay graham and senator john mccain said today that the strikes are not enough and the attempts to arm moderate syria rebel factions and not destroying the threat posed by president ah sawed and his air force. it must be recognized it is not effective or moral to ekwup syrians to fight isis and don't defend them from assad air strikes and bombs. the president should be demappeded to stop or face the destruction from his own air force. >> and the u.s. air strikes expanded in syria. and president obama warned not to expect immediate success. >> the over all effort will take time and challenges ahead and we'll do what is necessary to take the fight to this terrorist group. >> a fight that could go on for years. and a sharp change in tone from (phone ringing) . and a emergency landing with a cross country fight. what sparked this seen? and search in a home that is a person of interest in this disappearance of a university student. >> well, an unruly passengers force a flight from boston to los angele

republican senator lindsay graham told "fox news" -- >> this is a turning point in the war on terror. our strategy will fail once again. >> reporter: this is not something we can do on our own, we have to work with the rest of the world. >> mary maloney ktvu channel "2 news." >>> a california man is facing six years of labor in northern korea. the government there is accusing him of entering illegally to commit espionage. the court said miller tor up his tourist visa when he entered the country on april 10th, saying he intended to experience prison life so he could investigate the human rights situation. >> >> very unusual campaign for an uncomfortable subject. coming up at 5:30, the eye catching song that. >> >> the show must go on, a san francisco tradition honors one of its favorite sons >> we are sad, but he would always want us to make it funny. >> >> touching tribute to robin williams. >> >> fire claims the life of a woman in the north bay. why firefighters said they had trouble getting into the house. >>> an elderly woman was killed after her house caught fire in santa rosa. on

. >> republican lindsay graham fireed back that stakes are too high to do nothing. they athey will vote in next cof of days. lou: thank you. president obama made it clear he is putting boots on the ground in africa to fight the elola outbreak, calling it a national second prsecurity priority. to set up ebola treatment centers. world he'll organization now say -- health organization said it is over 2500 dead. >> our report. >> reporter: at centers for disease control, president obama met with emory university doctors who treated 2 americans who contracted the ebola virus in west africa, and later announced that u.s. will lead an effort to eradicate what it believed to be largest outbreak of the disease. >> world is looking to us. >> mr. obama met with dr. kent brantley and his wife, he has been pronounceed cure of the ebola virus. they will sense $3,000 servicemen and women to west africa that give training and longchistal support -- logistical support, majority will be based in liberia. where it is worst. they will also be around in senegal. world health organizatio

republican senator lindsay graham says it's fantasy to take a ground troop free strategy will end successfully. >> it is a war we are fighting not a counter-terrorism operation not somalia not inman it is a turning point in the war on terror. our strategy will fail yet again. this president needs to rise to the occasion before we all get killed back here at home. >> secretary of state's schedule includes france, netherlands, iraq and qatar. >> peter doocy live for us. thank you. >>> u.s. troops on the ground. should the president be sending u.s. troops in? log on to "fox & friends" facebook page right after the show for a live debate use the hash tag keep talking. >>> a reare we at war with isis? john kerry flip flopping on that issue. here's what he said last week. when asked if the united states was at war with terror groups. >> i think that's the wrong terminology. what we are doing is engaging in a very significant counter-terrorism operation. >> kerry and the white house now back traging. >> in terms of al qaeda, which we have used the word war with, yeah, we went -- we are at war with al

. >> lindsay graham issued a statement saying condemnation is not enough to deal with the scourge.it is time we act decisively against i.s.i.l. wherever it resides. graham finished, mr. president if you can't come up with an approach tell us what the goal is. the president gave one. >> our objective is clear, to degrade and destroy i.s.i.l, so it's not a threat to iraq and the region and the united states. >> but mr. obama didn't address the specific request of congress of attacking the islamic state in syria. it may take time to generate military options for the president to consider, but time is limited, in washington, where senator nelson's legislation could outside flank the president's in as little as a week. david schuster, al jazeera, washington. >>> nato summit one of the main topics will be the crisis in ukraine. russian president veunlt laid out plans for a ceasefire. >> bear in mind, the almost total inability of the ukrainian government and the russian separatists to hold any type of useful talks so far. it is hard to see where ppt is president putin is getting gettt op

when lindsay graham tried to get enough support to pass the bill in the senate. it's been stone walled in the house. the recognitions are there, nothing can get down, is a symptom in the congress, a polarization that stops us solving problems when there is vast agreement. >> on the foreign policy side the president is the opposite of a wing nut, with accusations that he's too cautious on terrorist threats, ukraine, and other crisis, and has tied the all-time lowest rating on the gallop poll. economy, obamacare - could his performance on the world stage make foreign policy a bigger deal than usual? >> foreign policy is a bigger deal than usual. there's a fascination, that we see at "the daily beast", with world affairs. you have crisis with israel, ukraine, and the threat by i.s.i.s. it's a time of hot spots in the world community. at a time when, you know, the president and the american people have a degree of worry possess, because of the last decade's adventures in iraq and else where. when there's a vacuum, bad folks can step in and fill the vacuum. it's a tes

. >> here's someone who disagrees with you, senator lindsay graham took issue about the red line about new combat troops or boots on the ground the way it's said now. let's watch him. >> we're fighting a terrorist army, not an organization. it's going to take an army to beat an army. and this idea we'll never have any boots on the ground to defeat them in syria is fantasy. to destroy isil, what i was told, or what i heard in your interview, won't even come close to destroy isil. it's delusional in the way they approach this. >> well, there's the senator. though you often disagree with him, he's saying there, we can't avoid bringing a combat force into syria, not just to iraq. >> well, i would just say to that, lindsay is a dear friend of mine and i respect him. and he works at this very hard and he is serving in the military, still does serve in the reserves, but with all that being said, i thank for him his services. i just disagree. if we believes we can train people and have a different result with boots on the ground, why didn't we have it before? al qaeda is still out there. have

security forces are confronting an increasingly large, sophisticated and -- >> reporter: republican lindsay graham now fired off a letter to the president demanding he back up his accusation on 60 minutes that intel officials failed by turning over his presidential daily brief for the last 18 months to the relevant committee. graham writing, quote, providing your pdbs to congress will help ensure that the failure to contributed to the rice of it's skill are addressed and we do not repeat the mistakes of 9/11. >> it's clear they're trying to follow up on reports from our own catherine harris were warned of isis for a year which the white house has not denied, the press josh ernest today said that turning over information is unlikely because they're highly classified documents. >>> demanding a meeting with hong kong's top executives. student demands that china reverse a revision -- the five-day standoff has blocked city streets in hong kong and forced schools and offices to close. we will continue to monitor this developing story out of hong kong. >>> stocks here were down today, the dow lost 28, th

some of the strongest criticism has come from republican senators john mccain of arizona and lindsay graham of south carolina. they have said their breathe, the mission needs to be more robust, but they noted the coalition helps the u.s. attack positions. we commend president obama for orders last night's air strikes against isis and the u.s. military for the skill and courage what which it carries out the operation. we especial lisa lieutenant our arab partners. however, last night's strike should be an opening against isis and sir have, this will be a long and difficult campaign, we are and our partners will need a limited presence of troops on the ground. again, congress can is out of session, but many law uh makers were very surprised to learn last night that arab nations were taking part in the military attacks. and you can see a sense of optimism, we watched last night, as he grilled senator kerry, even he put out a fairly optimistic statement act the actions and when you have again that kind of support, the president's approval rating tends to go un, and that comes at a crucial momen

. >> on the republican side, south carolina senator lindsay graham issued a statement saying: in estonia president obama offered one. >> our objective it clear - to degrade and destroy i.s.i.l., so it's no longer a threat not just to iraq, but the region. and to the united states. >> reporter: president obama didn't reject the request from congress about attacking islamic state in syria. it may take the pentagon some time to generate military options. time is limited in the political cauldron where legislation could outflank the president as early as next week. >>> dino, a columnist for "the daily beast" joins us. >> thank up. >> what are some of the modern ways that the islamic state group are using or recruiting people. >> they are using modern and ancient islamic way to the get people to join. one, i say at the outset - the leader of the group is mohamed badie. that is not really his name -- abu bacher bag dardy. that is not his real name, he gave himself that name. you have that, and using social media. they use hash tags, facebook, twitter and a magazine that has three issues - i re

you had lindsay graham talking about attacking isis or else everybody else in the u.s.ere's this group, which u.s. officials are talking about. and sounds like, it's an al qaeda splinter group. sounds like an from an operational standpoint they had more experience attacking than isis. >> i have to say that while we in the media has been focusing on isis. look, they took so much territory. you can see why we concentrated on that. but when you talk to folks in the counterterrorism community, they have been tracking these other groups. recently, they warned that while isis was gathering capturing everyone's attention that al qaeda and yemen and other o offchutes had more capability, more expertise including bomb making expertise. the will and intent to attack the united states now and that's why the focus was on them. >> it seems like given the world that we live in and the struggle going on here, that whether it's isis or another group, there are going to be groups like that for the near future. this is as much as a struggle, war of ideas as it is a military war. >> it's

. >> because the are ggument they make, mccain lindsay graham, joe lieberman. look at the years after the korean war. the united states has 30,000 u.s. troops in south korea. >> well i think that the comparison of south korea to iraq is -- is a weak analogy at best. again, remember that we, there was -- absolute chaos and war in iraq when there were tens of thousand, 160,000 u.s. troops in iraq. both in 2004. again, 20007. and the idea that any number of u.s. troops in, in iraq, would -- would solve the iraqi problems that existed in terms of the, the divisions between sunis and shiites. failures of the maliki government, u.s. troop presence was help sag part ing support t divisions between suni and shiaa in iraq. some how the troop presence was sole answer to that ongoing prob lechlt problem. i know senator mccain disagreed with senator obama on these policies. i don't find it look he thikely change his mind. what he is talking about now, senator mccain, what we need how to do, tracks closely with what the president announced tonight. >> just hypothetical. if

and senator lindsay graham said, what you'd want to do is to interject special forces into the kill-the-leader-type operations. are we about to see a big push from the right for troops on the ground in iraq and syria? >> i think they'd like to see that. i think this idea of special forces, i don't want to be naive. special forces may be operating there. they often don't telegraph what they're doing. so for the president to say, we have special forces in there and they're going to take out the leaders, i don't see the utility in that. and special forces can lead on a slippery slope to more forces and conventional forces. so it seems very irresponsible. they're always asking him to do more. he's never doing enough. >> the "new york times" described the three-phase plan from the president. first air campaign to roll back isis gains in iraq. then training and equipping the iraqi military, the kurdish fighters and sunni tribes. and the final phase is destroying isis inside of syria. what are the biggest challenges ahead, colonel? >> the last one. i mean, that really is a big challenge, because it's a ve

and there was a particularly strong exchange between senator lindsay graham and it was general dempsey and he was really pushing him on the key significance of this coalition, right? and it was -- roughly paraphrasing saying you've drawn these red lines, done nothing, withdrew from iraq, left the place in shambles sort of showing why would these nations want to join the fight with isis with the united states? given some of what's happened in the past. >> well, we've been talking about this, brooke, with you for weeks now, it's extraordinarily complex in building the coalition. and we wouldn't reasonably expect it to come together overnight because of different agendas and different national interests with companies in the region. for example, the sunni street, if you will in a country like saudi arabia. it would take convincing on the part of leadership why this fight against this thing called the islamic state is in the kingdom's interests and their own national interests when often it's going to be perceived that anything the united states or allies does is for the benefit of baghdad

senator lindsay graham is asking questions of defense secretary chuck hagel and joint chiefs martin dempseylisten to the comments. >> it's mankind against isil. if you're a christian in the region, they will kill you very quickly, is that correct? >> unless you convert. >> okay. now, i guess what i'm trying to persuade my colleagues is these problems only get worse over time. but are they limited to the middle east? are there radical islamists that we should worry about in africa? >> absolutely. >> does the authorization to use military force allow this administration to go in to attack aqip in yemen without a new authorization? >> it does, anything affiliated with aq. >> i'm going to write you a letter and name the organization that we could not attack without a new amf. i want to see how far this goes. i think this is a pretty robust reading of the current one. but i'm not going to stand in your way. we need to get this right. now, areas of agreement, training the free syrian army, you recommend we do that with all of the complications that go with it? >> and with a coalition, i do. >> ok

. >> lindsay graham and i and joe lieberman were in baghdad. they wanted a residual force. the president has never made a statement during that or after that he wanted a residual force left behind. the iraqis were ready to go. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff testified before the senate armed services committee that the number kas dacascaded o 3,500. that was not sufficient to do anything but defend themselves. you as a spokesman bragged that the last american combat troop had left iraq. if we had left a residual force, the situation would not be what it is today and there would be a lot more -- >> senator, i can pause it with great respect for you that we don't agree on that -- >> no, you can't. you don't have the facts. you i don't have the facts, mr. carney. that's the problem. >> i understand that you present the facts that you believe are true based on the arguments that you've said that we should leave troops in iraq imperpetuity. >> you can watch obama's speech in its entirety here. we will bring you that about 45 minutes from now. take a short break, but mu

that -- >> rose: but it's the -- >> congress has a role -- >> rose: what the president, not what lindsay grahamprepared to do. >> of course but i do believe congress has a role and if you are going to engage in hill tree action in syria a certain kind of military action is the authorization to do so is broadly written as susan collins is very concerned about, an authorization for war with syria. those are very serious concerns and they should -- >> rose: syria's in opposition for war, authorization to do anything to stop isis. >> depends how it's written. that's why i do believe there needs to be an opportunity for congress should be heard. >> rose: no one is suggesting war against syria, are they? >> they have to debate that and see what's being asked of us. we've not seen the resolution yet we're going to be asked to be voted on with regard to army rebels. these are the serious questions congress must be engagedth. >> rose: what's the political conversation might be. senator obama made a speech about the wore and that helped prop him within behind own party to the nomination. is this seen amo

there's no doubt about that, especially from senators like lindsay graham, john mccain, but everyone is looking forward to the fine print of the strategy, as he plans to lay it out on wednesday. >> and another moment that stood out, certainly in this interview that the president did with "meet the press," is talking about the optics of him going and playing golf shortly after addressing the nation, talking about the beheading of james foley by isis. what did the president say? how did he react to that? >> reporter: poppy, did he admit that it looked bad. here's how he put it, in his own words. >> but there's no doubt that after having talked to the families, where it was hard for me to hold back tears listening to the pain that they were going through, after the statement that i made, that, you know, i should have anticipated the optics. you know, that's part of the job. >> reporter: now, he does golf almost every saturday. he did yesterday after the white house confirmed that they were delaying action on immigration reform, but we have been seeing a lot more candor from the presiden

. >>> back live on capitol hill, you see republican senator lindsay graham, another vocal critic of thed how he dealt with isis. he is beginning his questioning at a senate hearing at the moment with general dempsey and hagel. we are monitoring the hilt and there have been tough questions and tough answers along the way. also happening on this busy morning, things we just thought you should know. first off, urban outfitters is apologizing for the kent state sweatshirt that caused an uproar. it has red splatters that resemble blood with holes with the 1970 shooting death with the ohio national guard during war protests. they said that was not the exception. it was part of a vintage collection. holes were from natural wear and fray. it has been removed from the website. the white house supports police wearing body cameras to help rebuild trust between the officers and the public. it came after a white police officer shot an unarmed teen in ferguson, missouri. 150,000 people signed an online petition urging president obama to create a law requiring all police to wear body cameras that woul

lindsay graham is also doubtful of the president's plan. >> i'm tired of half measures. tired of misleading the american people about what we face. there is no way in hell we're going to beat these guys without an american ground component in iraq and syria and there is not a force in the mideast that can take these guys on and win without substantial american help. you don't need the 82nd airborne, but we'll need thousands of troops over time on the ground holding the hand of the arab armies who will hold the fighting along with the syrians to on make sure we win? the one thing i can promise the american people is if we take isil alone and lose we will unlock the gates of hell. >> what makes you think we're going lose, senator? maybe if you give the president everything he needs that he's asking for at this point and he asking for in the future. unlock the gates of hell? its started and this is the political, for the republicans and they will will make the case and evolve it that president obama and the the democrats are weak on national security and our country is faci

you've got sort of hard core john mccain, lindsay graham view that says look, if we don't send in ourwe're not really serious about this and by the way, why did you withdraw all american troops from iraq and then obviously, there are a lot of americans including a lot of both democrats and libertari libertarian-leaning republicans who just don't like intervening again in iraq in any way even though this is not like the iraq war -- >> you mentioned bush senior and the gulf war. a big difference was that strategically president obama senior managed to explain to the public clearly that saddam was bad enough to go to war with and repel, but not sufficiently terrible that he had to be overthrown and he took heat for that at the time. in other words, was there a clear, strategic goal presented to the congress which voted on that war and i would ask you whether in your view, i know you wrote the the piece talking about foreign policy in the president's address, did he manage to give that kind of clarity because if isis is as bad as i'm hearing then it's not clear to me why ground troops wou

you read and you hear from the john mccain's of the world, lindsay grahams, and saying go in, destroy, destroy, destroy. let's talk strategy and specifics here. what should the president be doing? >> well, one argument that john mccain and lindsey graham put forward is that we should have a comprehensive strategy to knock out isis. to completely obliterate them. and what that would involve is multiple things. first, tightening their finances. second, it would engage militarily. boots on the ground. special forces. but that's also arming our allies there. more, so giving the kurds arms, making alliances with the sunni tribes in the north. also, we have to engage politically with iraq. there has to be power sharing in baghdad, so that the sunnis are involved in the governance of that country. that means this president is going to have to engage politically in iraq. something that he promised the american people he wouldn't do. >> you would think there should be boots on the ground, is that what you're saying? >> i don't think that -- if you're going to approach this the way we approache

in a response, senators john mcin and lindsay graham write, isis must be confronted militarily. >> weefeat isis, not contain, not stop, but defeat isis. because they are a direct threat over time to the united states of america. >> reporter: many foreign fighters have joined isis' ranks including more than 100 americans. the fear is that their passports will allow them back home bringing terror with them. >> they have americanized their message. >> reporter: deepening fears of a terrorist next door. >> in the meantime, germany taking action against the isis threat by arming kurdish fighters. the german government is sending high end bÑyrifles, tank bustin weapons and armored vehicles to the kurds in northern iraq. defense ministry says the arms together with pro tktive gear and communications equipment are enough for 4,000 kurdish fighters. >> now the islamic militant threat in libya. this dramatic video appears to show those militants at a pool on the u.s. embassy compound. that compound has been empty since american dip lope mlomate evacuated as libya descended further into chaos. o

there is no -- john mccain, lindsay graham are not vacating large scale ground troops for what would be really required to completely eradicate this threat. you know, we can -- the afghan war is the most unpopular war in american history and, by the way, that went pretty well. i think we have almost an ideological problem which is we can go in and overthrow the regime but we won't sustain that sort of centuries long occupation as the british or the french did. we just won't. and so we're lost, kind of caught in this paradox which is we can do this quick fix but in the long term it's not likely to work that well. it may work okay. it certainly works probably pretty well for protecting the american line but it is not going to defeat an insurgency of the kind we saw -- we didn't defeat the insurgency in iraq it turned out and we were there for ten years. but there is no public appetite for what's really required. in fact, maybe that's a good thing. but it is certainly a very american thing. >> i also think we have to be pretty modest about what we can achieve with counterradicalization

lindsay graham says it's a fantasy that you'll do it without u.s. boots. is, if it's a fantasy, that means the reality is you need u.s. troops. why is congress too afraid to do anything but talk on tv and get together and debate and vote and come up with a plan? >> first of all there should not be a combined vote on a continuing resolution, something so important to the policy of this nation and future generations to come to get us into a long embattled war. we've been in this insanity before if boots on the ground would have won it, it would have been over long ago, chris and it's not. i'm just saying there's going to be turmoil over there. there's been turmoil for 1400 years, noits going to change overnight and we as americans are not going to make a difference on the quality of their life. >> what do you say to your brothers and sister who is criticize the president and say, well this isn't going to work, you got to have u.s. boots on the ground. but they're afraid to take their constitutional responsibility and vote on a declaration of war. by definiti

sand that the administration has drawn of no combat troops is drawing skepticism like senator lindsay graham. >> we are fighting a terrorist army. not an origination. it will take an army to beat an army. this idea we'll never have boots on the ground to defeat them in syria is fantasy. i will not suggest we can outsource. there is no way in hell you can have a coalition without boots on the ground. >> reporter: however, the administration is tracking closely with public opinion. our latest polling shows large majorities of americans want to see additional air strikes and they want to see something done about isis, but still not troops on the ground. john and christine. >> 40 nations agreed to fight against isis in the coalition. australia with up to eight f-18 combat jets. france is contributing ammunition and launching flights to targets. the british are arming kurdish forces in the iraqi government. they have not said they will participate in air strikes. and turkey has been helpful cutting off the flow of money to isis and beginning to stop foreign fighters to join the extremist groups.

there is no -- john mccain, lindsay graham are not vacating large scale ground troops for what would be really required to completely eradicate this threat. you know, we can -- the afghan war is the most unpop war in american history and, by the way, that went pretty well. i think we have almost an ideological problem which is we can go in and overthrow the regime but we won't sustain that sort of centuries long occupation as the british or the french did. we just won't. and so we're lost, kind of caught in this paradox which is we can do this quick fix but in the long term it's not likely to work that well. it may work okay. it certainly works probably pretty well for protecting the american line but it is not going to defeat an insurgency of the kind we saw -- we didn't defeat the insurgency in iraq it turned out and we were there for ten years. but there is no public appetite for what's really required. in fact, maybe that's a good thing. but it is certainly a very american thing. >> i also think we have to be pretty modest about what we can achieve with counterradicalization effo

because rubio and mccain and lindsay graham have been saying for weeks now, that the president needsead and be more aggressive. which is interesting. coming from republicans, that they're willing to say, the president should go, republicans have been critical of the president for executive overreach. but they're willing to say hey, he should have a green light to be more aggressive here. >> when this comes to commander-in-chief, they're saying he does have that authority. this is the morning of september 11th. i was at the white house on that tragic day. we reflect on where we were, our memories, 13 years later. let's look at the mood of the country. terrorism is again front and center. acts of terrorism around september 11th, do you think they're likely? 53% today say they think it is likely around this anniversary. not likely, 46%. the key thing is it's up from 2011. in this political climate, may be crass for some to discuss politics on this day. but we are less than eight weeks from an election. are you worried that someone in your family will be a victim of terrorism, women have

i spoke with senator lindsay graham, one of the chief hawks in congress all on this issue.y supportive. for lots of reasons. you just heard john negroponte tell brianna that he sees the beginning of a comprehensive strategy. he's traditionally a republican politician, a republican diplomat who served the republican presidents to hear him say that tells you everything you need to know. the other bit of news we we got this morning, there was an imminent threat. that's not something you're going to hear any members of congress say that this is not something that the united states military should have gone after. and the last point i want to make, the fact that there are five coalition partners in the arab world, five arab countries that were joining in the united states, that's something that is huge when it comes to these members of congress selling this mission back home. lot of people say why does the u.s. have to be the policeman for the world? this is an example where the u.s. is partnering with countries in the region. >> well, look, the u.s. going alone and striking kho

. >> reporter: a view echoed by top republicans including senators john mccain and lindsay graham writing in "the new york times," continuing to confront isis in iraq but not in syria would be fighting with one hand tied behind our back. still some democrats say the president is right to proceed carefully. >> it is extremely urgent that you don't just rush in because the media is talking about it. >> reporter: it's not just the media. king abdullah warned over the weekend if isis is ignored i'm sure they'll reach europe in a month and america in another month. the white house says the president takes this seriously. the sense of urgency is growing as isis expands its reach aided by an influx of thousands of fighters holding western passports. then the announce of an arrest of a 16-year-old girl suspected of trying to reach syria to fight. officials estimate 70 to 100 americans have joined isis and other extremist groups fearing they could return to the u.s. to launch attacks. >> i'm very concerned. because we don't know every single person that has an american passport that has gone and t