lindsey gramm has been in this thing almost as long as i have. he is effective. all of the people engaged in these negotiations have the respect, i think, of their colleagues. >> when you and lindsey gramm were here in november, mitt romney had just watched -- lost the election. he said, it is one thing to get hit by a fast-moving train. it is another thing to get knocked off the road by a slow- moving bus. pawlenty gramm was so candid about the mistakes the gop made, and was clearly advocating this line of thinking. when you look at political commentary coming out from the gop, they seem to be unaware of the things you and lindsey gramm work. how big a divide is there between the perspective of what it will take to save the republican party and connect with this new crowd of voters? >> i think it is a number of things we have to do. one of them fundamentally. but they are things we can before rather than be against. now other than being against the deficit. against the things president obama is trying to do on taxes. we have to be four things. we have to explain

host: senator lindsey gramm of south carolina. joe is on our independent line. caller: i have interest in giving you a call because i have been doing research on the government. at this time, i have to publicize to the world that the government has committed an act of tyranny. they are doing what they should -- -- they are not doing what they should be done -- be doing for the sake of our people. and this time to play hardball against these individuals were shown in the past 80 years who have not been in the better interest of our children. that means 300 million of us need to get really involved in our government and participate. these guys do not care about this. history is showing it. the congress and senate -- this is why the federalists, james madison, set up the federalist act -- the new that this would transpire. -- they knew that this would transpire. these loopholes that congress is pushing past and pushing back, they are never going to truly do it for the better interests of the people. the people need to truly wake up. we are seeing these guys getaway

lindsey gramm has promised to block the senate from voting on the nomination. he wants hagel to provide more answers -- he wants the president to provide more answers in regard to the attack on benghazi. >>> defense secretary leon panetta signed off on a memo yesterday that said it is fundamental that we provide similar benefits to all of those men and women in uniform who serve their country. it should happen in the next few months. >>> more members of the military are dying from suicide than in combat. wusa9's jc hayward salutes an organization designed to fight this disturbing trend. >>> tomorrow the white house is going to issue an executive order aimed at boosting the nation's defenses against cyberattacks, according to the website the hill. it will abvoluntary program for utility companies so they can get classified information when it comes to cyberthreats and methods for friending them off -- fending them off. >>> catholics around the world are still reeling from monday's surprise announcement from the vatican. pope benedict xvi is resigning at the end

lindsey gramm has been in this thing almost as long as i have. he is effective. all of the people engaged in these negotiations have the respect, i think, of their colleagues. >> when you and lindsey gramm were here in november, mitt romney had just watched -- lost the election. he said, it is one thing to get hit by a fast-moving train. it is another thing to get knocked off the road by a slow- moving bus. pawlenty gramm was so candid about the mistakes the gop made, and was clearly advocating this line of thinking. when you look at political commentary coming out from the gop, they seem to be unaware of the things you and lindsey gramm work. how big a divide is there between the perspective of what it will take to save the republican party and connect with this new crowd of voters? >> i think it is a number of things we have to do. one of them fundamentally. but they are things we can before rather than be against. now other than being against the deficit. against the things president obama is trying to do on taxes. we have to be four things. we have to explain

outstretched hands from republican senators john mccain and lindsey gramm, both -- graham. both tough critics of obama's foreign policy. >> send me send a comp men'sive immigration -- comprehensive immigration bill in the next few months and i will sign it right away and america will be better for it. >>> also, a star student at u.c. berkley revealed he's an undocumented immigrant. he shared his story as part of an online campaign for the dream act. that's the proposed immigration law that congress is considering that would allow certain students like himself the path to citizenship. critics say that this plan, however, may just encourage and invite illegal immigration. d.c. lawmakers are expected to take up the issue this year. >>> and today pope benedict blessed thousands of pilgrims from his window overlooking st. peter's square. >> that was the second to last angelus blessing before he steps down at the end of the upon. he outstretched his arms. he made no mention of his decision to resign but thanks the faithful for the affection and spiritual closeness. >>> now there'

host: senator lindsey gramm of south carolina. joe is on our independent line. caller: i have interest in giving you a call because i have been doing research on the government. at this time, i have to publicize to the world that the government has committed an act of tyranny. they are doing what they should -- -- they are not doing what they should be done -- be doing for the sake of our people. and this time to play hardball against these individuals were shown in the past 80 years who have not been in the better interest of our children. that means 300 million of us need to get really involved in our government and participate. these guys do not care about this. history is showing it. the congress and senate -- this is why the federalists, james madison, set up the federalist act -- the new that this would transpire. -- they knew that this would transpire. these loopholes that congress is pushing past and pushing back, they are never going to truly do it for the better interests of the people. the people need to truly wake up. we are seeing these guys getaway

bob schieffer talks with lindsey gramm and jack reed. as well as mike rogers. the sunday network tv talk shows, this afternoon on c-span radio, brock you as a public service. it begins again at noon eastern with "meet the press," at 3:00 state of the union, "four- o'clocks state of the nation." listen to them all on c-span radio. nationwide on xm satellite radio channel 119. you can listen on your smart phone or go online to c- span.org >> if someone paid him to write 10 columns for $2,000 each and they published only six, he would summon the editor at issue and say -- what did the editors expect me to say? we paid you. saying it may be the columns were not good enough. here is a check back for the columns you did not print. we asked -- why would he give back the money? he was entitled. that was his business and philosophy, because he wanted to do business with the other party again. very rare behavior now. i admire that. the life of the 30th president of the united states, tonight at 8:00 on a "q&a." >> "washington journal" continues. host: we want to welcome

when lindsey gramm and john mccain are saying that this is really crazy stuff, you know there are people both in the senate and house that get it and want to avoid this. anybody on the defense side, everybody knows we have to trim our sails. at least we should allow the secretary to make the decisions as opposed to this crazy across the board. >> talking about the budget issue your state is facing. you had to raise taxes in your state to meet the budget deficit. what is the way ford for governors in this country who are facing similar scenarios? you raise taxes. and other states that is not tenable. is that a mix of spending cuts and tax increases? >> i was the first democrat elected governor and 24 years. the outgoing governor handed me a deficit larger than any other state in the nation representing 17% of revenue. there was no way to cut your way out of it. there was no way to tax arena of it. you had to do both. we had to respect the relationship as the employees and we did both of those things. so much so that and relate -- respecting our relationship we have $21.5 billion in saving

when lindsey gramm and john mccain are saying that this is really crazy stuff, you know there are people both in the senate and house that get it and want to avoid this. anybody on the defense side, everybody knows we have to trim our sails. at least we should allow the secretary to make the decisions as opposed to this crazy across the board. >> talking about the budget issue your state is facing. you had to raise taxes in your state to meet the budget deficit. what is the way ford for governors in this country who are facing similar scenarios? you raise taxes. and other states that is not tenable. is that a mix of spending cuts and tax increases? >> i was the first democrat elected governor and 24 years. the outgoing governor handed me a deficit larger than any other state in the nation representing 17% of revenue. there was no way to cut your way out of it. there was no way to tax arena of it. you had to do both. we had to respect the relationship as the employees and we did both of those things. so much so that and relate -- respecting our relationship we have $21.5 billion in saving

the republicans who are heavily funded by them you know people like senator lindsey graham and they sure can afford to fund gramm and his congressional buddies in the past ten years the defense industry has seen record profits in two thousand and eleven the combined profits of the five largest u.s. based contractors were staggering thirteen point four billion dollars and despite going through a recession the devastated both families and businesses across the country the defense industry is still making record profits f.d.r. said during world war two that quote i don't want to see a single war millionaire created in the united states as a result of this world disaster but in this new age of never never ending war war profiteers are cashing in like never before glance across the potomac from our nation's capitol and you'll see virtual castles thirty and forty room mansions in secure gated communities belonging to the executives and lobbyists of today's war profiteers and thanks to these war profiteers the republican war hawks they own it seem grained in the american psyche that any decrease in military spending me