you might have heard my colleague lindy hall was flying.7 minutes, excuse me, we stopped for water, dealt with some equipment. i actually took the wrong onramp at one point. and it was absolutely leisurely. in fact, all of us would like it this calm all the time. we're going to be moving along shortly, don't worry. we almost have too much time on our hands. fredericka -- >> you're kidding? oh, that's funny. so then if the 405 were not closed and you were making that same commute or at least your destination, your starting point and destination were about the same, how much a difference in that commute time wise would it have been? >> reporter: well, that's of course a guess. and this is what's so funny about los angeles' freeways. they're so whimsical. i've never had it where there wasn't just one accident or one issue of some sort that snarled traffic. it just doesn't happen that way unless, you know, you're that family coming back from disneyland and you -- >> oh, well. well -- there he is. >> reporter: not crowded at all, but every thoro

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lindy flew and is joining us by phone and paul drove.n with paul, you first, you're still driving? >> i'm driving back to burbank airport after messing around at long beach airport for a while. that went so smoothly, fred, you can't believe it. you know, i admittedly i got on to the wrong onramp at one point. i also had all kinds of other things going on, not the least of which was we got some water and we were messing with this equipment that allows us to go live while driving, so it was 54 minutes and an absolute, as say they, piece of cake, fred. >> oh, my gosh, fred, very encouraging, i don't know if people are now going to venture out or remain off the roads so that there will not be any gridlock? >> reporter: i would say that if traffic was like this all the time, people would, you know, be happy to take such adventures on a friday. but you just don't see this. i'm on the 710 freeway right now and this is moving away from long beach. so it is an absolute pleasure to drive today. >> fantastic, that is great to hear, paul. let's chec

larry lindy had an article in the "wall street journal" the other day and said if interest rates go upoints, you'll have 5 trillion extra in spending on interest. if you look at the exploding charts on spending and debt, it's going to be driven by interest in the next ten years, so i don't think we can count on and trust congress to do what they say they are going to do for ten years. i don't personally trust the body of congress to do what they say or any of their promises. that's why i would only trust it if we actually amended the constitution to say you have to balance your budget. >> we'll watch how this plays out over the next two weeks. senator rand paul, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> just ahead, marcia clark and jeffrey toobin with more on tonight's breaking news on casey anthony. first though a look at other stories. a "360" bulletin. >>> john, a federal appeals court has ordered the u.s. government to immediately stop enforcing the law that bans gan service members from serving openly. the pentagon is already in the process of repealing its don't ask, don't t