lingling wei? your response?iously, this viewer raised a really good question about the chinese government. some of their oppressive techniques. price --oyed to suppress the freedom of speech and religion are the chinese people. question, some of those techniques definitely existed. id from the u.s. perspective, guess it all comes down to, what kind of a relationship do you really want to have with china? so, if the u.s. has determined that we really don't want to deal with china any longer, and divorce,e a complete and i hope the policymakers in both countries could have thought through what the consequences of that decision is. time, there is also a fact that the u.s. has a lot of interest in china. american companies and individuals are still in china. that kind of calls for continued , it is especially important to make chinese people realize that some of the issues raised by the american side and some of the reforms, etc., really are in china's interests. reallyot that americans -- of, we don't want to deal

lingling, i'm going to begin with you, if i may. >> sure. trump administration and an entirely new way of doing business by an american president. your thoughts about the great disrupter and this president who had the foresight to take on china. >> sure. very glad to be here, lou. thank you so much. yes, absolutely. president trump really broke with a lot of tradition. his trade offensive against china was up precedented -- unprecedented and, you know, initially caught the authority it is in china off guard many times. so, yeah. it's a wake-up call also to the chinese government that, you know, the past relationship with the u.s., a kind of engagement washington a had with beijing for many years now coming to end. lou: and that, that requires a next phase, bob. is that phase without question a cold war? >> well, i think, i think we're edging right to it if we're not in it now. i mean, the difficulty with declaring a cold war is there's no particular event. i mean, the last time, the last cold war it was a speech by winston churchill. we don'

dominate or you'll look like a bunch of jerks but let's be frank police are under huge pressure rioters lingle with the protesters looting and burning them egging everyone else on that they must be dealt with but like these where's the condemnation president tom trump tweeted when the looting starts the shooting starts what did you think when you read that but i have long kept to the self-imposed guidance not to comment on what president trump says appropriate or indeed other world leaders it's not really what my job is that all the journalists so much as trips over in china for example rights groups get an aneurism. the irony is overwhelming just weeks ago washington was preaching to everyone about how sacred protests are the united states is gravely concerned by the deepening political unrest and violence in hong kong including the standoff between protesters and police reiterate our warning about any decision or remnant elements of the mature regime to use violence to repress press the peaceful democratic transition the iranian people are once again on the streets because of the regime's po

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what most of us i thought of food for thought the at that he asked lingle that all follow him know meeleanor and how. according to this tripartite secret agreement on the 29th of october 1956. israeli forces crossed the border into egypt. even though the israelis was still some distance from the canal britain and france called for both sides to withdraw. when nasser rejected the ultimatum british and french troops began landing and put signs at the mediterranean and the canal. united states was not consulted in any way about any phase of these actions nor were we informed of them in advance. it is our hope and intent this matter will be brought before the united nations general assembly there with no veto operating the opinion of the world can be brought to bear in our quest for a just in to this tormenting problem. by the end of december. under heavy international pressure. the british and french were forced into a humiliating the drool trumpeted sallied. global attention now shifted to israel still occupying the whole of the sinai and the gaza strip. a little incitement. because a l

joining me now is lingling wei with "the wall street journal."eijing but was expelled by the chinese communist party, and she is the co-author of "superpower showdown: how the battle between trump and xi threatens a new cold war." ling ling, great to have you back with us -- >> thank you. lou: -- and we recommend the book highly to our audience. it's provocative, it is terrific. and the issue of decoupling came up this week, and there was some misunderstanding. but if we were headed toward a cold war, it almost by definition means there has to be a decoupling if that is to be the next phase, if you will, of this deeply controversial and troubled relationship between the united states and china. do you think that's where we're headed, decoupling? >> first of all, thank you very much for having me here, lou. on the issue of the decoupling, as we describe in the book, we really think that a complete decoupling of the two major economies is fantasy. the two nations are just too intertwined after years of engagement. u.s. companies have spent quarter

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have reached this tipping point for more i'm joined by the reporters behind the book, bob davis and lingling wei it is so great to have you both here anything know about journalism i learned from watching you two way back in the day. it is a pleasure and congratulations on the book. bob, let me start with you can we call china an enemy what is this issue with the flights at this juncture tell us especially in the wake of coronavirus. everything going on. what is going to happen with the trade deal where are we at in the relationship do you think? >> yeah. i mean, i think the flights are just one more irritant on top of irritant on top of irritant. i wouldn't call them enemies i would say we are to the point of adversaries certainly you know, the trade deal had -- created a truce in the trade war but it was quickly overtaken by covid, by hong kong, by on thing after another. we are at a point now where the two economies are disengaging from one another not quite going to the decoupling that people talk about but definitely disengaging. >> it is fascinating in the book to read about how i thin