>> i was -- after i left ivory, i talked with linnette. i talked with my dad, i think, and then i was doing all these things at home, and i totally forgot to go back to ivory. so she -- she text me at 11:45 that she finished her calls. and turns out my call, i told her -- that she had an appointment at 12:30 or something like that, by phone. and then i remember i didn't get back to ivory. so i said i just want to let her know i'm not going to call the police. >> and that's after you spoke with your father and ms. peralta haynes? >> yes. >> did you speak with ms. peralta haynes before your father that day? >> i do not remember. >> did you definitely speak with your father that morning? >> i actually, i think i did. >> i actually, i think i did. in your declaration at

what were those text messages about that you sent to linnette peralta haynes? >> i do not remember exactly but after ivory told me all this about you can accuse him of domestic violence, that was phil brownstein did with sharon stone so he got the custody and she brought all this about the police and she also brought this person, she want to bring all this persons at her home and i was asking all that questions and she she was repeating you have to accuse him of domestic violence. >> ms. lopez, i'm going to have to stop you now. >> is why i called her. >> i know it's traditional to wait until the witness finishes answering to move to strike but i don't want to take all night to do this. chairperson hur: let's hold on one second. can i have the question back, please? [the court reporter read the question back] chairperson hur: overruled, counsel. you asked for this. >> you can continue, ms. lopez. >> so she brought all this new whole world about domestic violence that i do not have idea about and she brought all this new world about to call the police and she br

>> that was that i told linnette. >> ok. but then your declaration you say you realized she was actually calling your husband's political enemies against your wishes. >> yes. >> what new information did you get or -- >> that i didn't -- >> what new information did you get around that time that ms. madison was out there calling your husband's political enemies. >> that's asked and answered. >> mr. keith, last time you asked that question you got a very -- i think you got a pretty detailed answer. what are you -- >> i don't think i got an answer to the question that i asked. that's why i'm asking the question in this way. >> i'll withdraw the objection. >> ok. ms. lopez, please proceed with your answer. >> repeat the question, please. i feel the same, don't worry. >> if the court reporter could read back the question. [the court reporter read back the last question] >> i see you are trying to make -- when i talked with linnette, i was having a conversation with linnette about her opinion, when i was talking with ivory, i was t

and also, i was talking with linnette and linnette said, i have to talk with ross and he's not answering my phone calls. so i text him, answer linnette calls. >> did you send this text while you were talking with your brother? >> you know, i do not remember. at that point i was already with theo because i pick him up at 5:30, so we were already at home, maybe i was in skype. >> ok. what i'm trying to figure out, did your brother give you the advice and immediately after that you sent the text? >> yes, yes. and actually we didn't talk any more because we were like so scared that someone is listening, someone is the big brother around and watching all this. he was right. >> were you on the phone with anybody else on your cell phone while you were talking with your brother on skype? >> no. the only people i was talking with was linnette, ross, and that's all. >> ok, my question was a little different. it was when you were talking with your brother on skype, were you talking with somebody else at the same time on your cell phone? did you have two conversations going on at once? >> asked and

linnette. i think i told her call ross. let him know what is happening. and goodbye. >> ok. and did you tell ivory madison that you were concerned for your husband's career at that time? >> she was repeating screw him and why you trying to protect him? so i said, i do not want to screw him. he's a great politician. >> ok. >> how i am going to destroy him -- >> did you ask ivory madison to tell the police she made a mistake? >> i told her i did not recall exactly what i said because i was almost crying. >> ok. did you tell her not to cooperate with the police? >> i remember saying you don't have my permission to do this. i trust you. i trust you. >> ok. now, i want to look -- i want to go over some emails and text messages that you sent that afternoon. i want to give you exhibit 5 8. so this is an email message you sent to ms. madison on january 4? >> yes. >> ok. now, phone records that are already in evidence are exhibit 8 3 shows before you sent this message to ms. madison at 4:14 you had a ca

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what i was trying to say, so i said lynn net new the incident, because i explained it to her -- linnette knew the incident because i explained it to her. >> in this second conversation wtiith ms. haynes was the first time you found out the police had been informed? >> yes, five minutes before. >> you have learned that from ivory? >> she found me in the street and said, you are going to kill me. i just call the police, and the police is coming. >> you had a series following that conversation -- you had a series of conversations on the afternoon of january 4. what was the substance of those conversations amonte -- of those conversations? >> after i knew about ivory calling the police, i felt betrayed. i felt that i'd betrayed ross. i was afraid of what was going to happen with theo. i was panicking. >> you were very upset this was possibly going to become a matter of public knowledge. is that correct? >> yes. >> is it fair to say all the conversations you had with ms. haynes from that point on, january 4, were primarily talking about how can we stop this from blowing up? i said that point,

was linnette peralta haynes involved in getting the statement out to the press? >> i think you have my phone records but after this day we didn't talk too much again and actually, i don't have any other -- i don't have any contact with her because she was in a high risk pregnancy and all this was so stressful for her. >>o the -- so the police called you on january 5, correct? >> yes. >> and you told the police your neighbor was nuts and your neighbor was broke and trying to get attention, correct? >> broke, yes. >> ok. you never said to the police that your neighbor was your attorney, did you? >> at that moment, no? >> on the 5th to the police? >> no, in fact i know i didn't. >> you told them to contact your attorney who at that time was cheryl wallace? >> yes. >> and cheryl wallace shared office space with the attorney with your husband's first attorney, robert waggoner? >> yes. i think so. i think so, yes. >> you gave an interview on a venezuelan radio station on january 14? >> yes. >> you were asked in that interview what your relationship was with ivory madis

placed within properly understood within the context that was supplied by nancy lyman and again by linnette peralta haynes. i have to agree with mr., bu ko that whether we leave that, neither of us really want that. we want you to understand and explore the significance of the act. to do that, we are permitted to submit this relevant evidence, and it is relevant. >> ok, but what fact in dispute are using miss florez's testimony to help prove? >> we are trying to prove that this is not an insignificant -- >> ok, i don't want descriptive words. i want what fact, the actual piece of evidence, the thing that happened that will -- that this will help us decide. >> well, it will help you determine whether or not the act was more likely just a crab and indignant pull, or more likely in fact a grab and a push against the wall. if i cannot attach significance, i can point you to that factual dispute. i believe the dispute is very significant. that happens within context. we have various descriptions, one minimizing, and one -- >> any question for ms. kaiser? ok, my view it is in light of the argumen

you watched the testimony that linnette peralta haynes gave last night from a different room, is that correct? >> part of that, part of that. >> about what time did you start watching miscellaneous peralta peraltaa --

you watched the testimony that linnette peralta haynes gave last night from a different room, is that correct? >> part of that, part of that. >> about what time did you start watching miscellaneous peralta peraltaa -- ms. peralta haines testimony last night? >> we came to that room. we were trying to connect, maybe that took 20 minutes, then we were like talking and then that took another 10 minutes and then i went down maybe 5:30. she start to testify at 5:00, right? >> i just want to know your recollection, ms. lopez, of when you started. >>