tragedies like the ethiopian airlines and lion air crashes are unimaginable in the u.s. and must remain so, but they and other recent incidents raise important questions about maintaining a safe national air space system and u.s. leadership in aviation and safety. it's imperative that we quickly fix any problems within faa's oversight, evaluation and approval processes to ensure safety in american skies, restore trust and maintain u.s. global leadership in aviation and aviation safety. thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> now recognize the chairman of the full committee, senator wicker. >> thank you, senator cruz. i want to thank senator cruz and senator sinema for holding this subcommittee hearing on the timely subject of aviation safety. as both the chair and ranking member mentioned in their remarks, the remarkable safety record of u.s. passenger airline travel is a testament to decades of hard work and painful lessons learned by a great many stake holders. today's hearing represents the beginning of this year's work in this area. the committee intends to hold a s

last yearin the lion air crash in october last year in which 189 people died shortly after take—offrom jakarta airport. the investigators will be looking at a wide range of possibilities, everything from weather to weather some criminal act was involved. but there is already, certainly among pilot circles, concentration on the fact this was the same type, boeing 737, established and well—regarded aircraft, but this variant did have issues with its manoeuvring characteristics and the investigation into that indonesian crash is still going on. that is simon calder of the independent.

hands of ethiopian officials, who say there is a, quote, clear similarity between this crash and the lion air disaster which also killed everyone on board. boeing now responding. >>> the historic flood emergency. nebraska's governor calling it unbelievable. entire towns cut off. helicopters needed for hundreds of water rescues. rivers rising to record levels. sam champion standing by. >>> the cross-country capture. the suspect in the murder of his wife, arrested more than 2,000 miles from where her body was discovered. a large amount of cash in the mexico? >>> the new video tonight. the police carjack shooting. a wild chase. the suspects running over an officer before authorities open fire. >>> also tonight, why the president is attacking senator john mccain, who died seven months ago. the tweet storm that has forced one of the president's biggest allies to defend mccain's legacy. >>> stealing the spotlight? joe biden's apparent slip of the tongue, before even announcing a run for the white house. as 2020 newcomer beto o'rourke attracts packs of reporters and intense scrutiny, issuing a serie

country when it grounded said that it actually used satellite data to look at the profiles of the lion air flight that crashed into the java sea and the ethiopian airlines flight that crashed on sundays on sunday and what it saw was similar circumstances and similar to the vertical fluctuations in particular it's said that it also solved it and i'm not sure how it got this satellite if it got this from other information but it said that all signs indicated that software in the plane in both cases pushed the nose down this is the software that you and i talked about yesterday this is something that after a lion air happens a lot of people are pointing to the software briefly to explain it again this. seven thirty seven max is an update on the plane seven thirty seven the engines were moved a bit further up that change the dynamic of the plane it would tend to lift it up so a new software was installed to automatically push that nose down with lion air what was found was that a sensor was off and it was saying the plane nose was up when it was actually trim and so what happens is suddenly it

be easy to overlook those but still in retrospect that's sort of glaring especially now after the lion air flights you would have to go back and there they were the whole time and let's say it is a software problem that can be corrected or we reach reaching a point where that perhaps won't matter anymore that the p.r. damage could be so severe that boeing is going to have to keep you know the mechs crown and forever it's really hard to say it's so early and i haven't seen the wall street journal reports this obviously does not look good because again after the lion air crash they were already there already those were pointing to that software and then you have another crash and to see such similar circumstances. now it does not look good boeing of course has forty six hundred outstanding orders on that plane. yeah it's huge stephen beard's as always thank you very much you will see what happens next when the day is almost over the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter either in the news or you can follow me at print off t.v. don't forget to use the hash tag the day i reme

what we're seeing is that everything is points in the software and that was already out after the lion air crash was that the software was really sort of zeroed in on and we have also seen these reports that pilots reporting irregularities in these had been registered before you know considering the number of flights were taking place you know if you look at four reports six reports it may be easy to overlook those but still in retrospect that's sort of glaring especially now after the lion air flights you would have to go back and there they were the whole time and let's say it is a software problem that can be corrected or we reach reaching a point where that perhaps won't matter any more that the p.r. damage could be so severe that boeing is going to have to keep you know the max grounded forever it's really hard to say it's so early and i haven't seen the wall street journal reports this obviously does not look good because again after the lion air crash they were already there already those were pointing to that software and then you have another crash and to see such similar circumst

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this is early in the investigation and let the lion air investigation continue moving forward and extract as much evidence out of that actionable evidence and continue making sure we get all the information from the black boxes downloads from the ethiopian air flight and take appropriate action based on fact >> and one more thing i just want to mention, congressman, on your point about other countries with political motives, there were members of your own party two prominent senators cruz and romney, who also called for the faa to ground these flights. i don't suppose they were politically motivated to squash -- >> i don't have any idea what -- >> the competition >> i don't any idea what their vote motivation was. i don't agree with them. if you apply that safety standard our primary mode of transportation would be walking and horses >> thank you very much for joining us and sharing what you know. >> thanks. >> congressman graves. >>> let's focus back to the markets. just 18 minutes of trade left at the moment we're up 140 points on the dow the s&p up a healthy 0.8%. the high for the day

guy: win the lion air -aircraft -- when the lion air aircraft went down it was late to software that tried to force the nose down, like 12 times the pilots tried to correct that and bring it back up. the response from boeing was to new we are going to issue guidelines and we will update the manual and let you know. anybody flying a 737 max 8 should be aware of this. if they are connected, how deep does boeing have to go to fix this safety measure? is it reengineering, a software patch, how do you fix an airplane in this case? benjamin: you hit on the crucial element, an analysis of what steps boeing did take following the lion air incident and whether it was sufficient. if their actions to advise pilots on how to update the becomes aanual, this question of whether ethiopian airlines has responsibility for not ensuring that their pilots were fully up-to-date on the latest guidelines. but it really does come down to pilot training. it could be a quick update, a software update that boeing could issue, then it is about education and makers are pilots know what they are doing. the max, i

they didn't have the time that the lion air case had. the question is going to be, we're talking right now there is a lawsuit filed, people are talking about punitive damages. the key is what are the facts? what did they decide before they sent this airplane out? what did boeing decide? what did the faa know and decide. ultimately after the lion air crash why didn't the faa and boeing do more than they did? >> what boeing is talking about now is it is a software fix. they are still working on it. if you knew there were issues why not take that step after the first crash? >> grounding a whole fleet for months after that first crash is a big deal for boeing. boeing has a lot invested in this aircraft. it's a big money maker for boeing. it's a big part of their future to compete with air bus. so i think it was difficult for boeing to take the steps that they should have taken. and the faa didn't make them take them. that's the key. the faa gives airlines a lot of leeway to police themselves. first of all, i don't know how that can happen. i

after the lion air crash, boeing began working on training and design updates. the faa says those have to be done by next month. the faa has not granted the aircraft until investigators determine what caused the most recent crash. three other countries this morning have decided to ground these aircrafts. we will have to see what the u. s. and the faa decide. at sfo, jackie ward, kpix 5 news. >>> marin county supervisors are taking their first steps toward fixing the flooding along highway 37. the solution could include a toll. the board was to conduct a study to determine the best approach to prevent the continued flooding but the money to pay for whatever recommendations come from that study may be coming from a toll on the 21 mile highway. >>> in the past hour, police have identified the suspect in the fatal stabbing of a san jose woman. 24-year-old carlos eduardo arevalo carranza is under arrest. >>> nurses at o'connor hospital are set to go on strike 24 hours. the nurses will also be striking at st. louise in gilroy. santa clara county recently purchased bot

identified in the october lion air crash.ow far does that go to fix this problem as far as you're concerned snd would that make wrou feel safe getting on the plane? >> no. i don't think it will be enough for the regulators and certainly not the investigators. who are investigating boeing. boeing was working on that software patch after the lion air and when ethiopia went down the faa quickly entered an order saying it had to be done by april. in that order, indicated that it might not have been done even at that time. and so now with the questions about the software and training and how many things went wrong, i think that won't necessarily be approved. there is issues about if the software was the right fix for the tendency of the plane to pitch nose up. and so they put the software and pitch the nose bag down. if the training specified is enough. and people probably i think that it will be determined that it's not enough. that you have to have hands on simulator training. it's a step forward, i don't think this will be enou

transport here in charge of the investigation has said that there were similarities in both the lion air crash and the ethiopian air crash. but two days ago on wednesday we were invited by the ethiopian airlines to see inside the simulator of the 737 max 8. and we were told as we were in there that this quick reference handbook has no mention of the mcas system which means if something were to happen, if a failure like this were to happen, and pilots would have gone through the quick rchbs handbook which is sort of like a bible pilots and crew, there would have been nothing in there referencing what was going wrong. so you can imagine the panic on board during an event like this. as i said, still a lot of questions being asked here, nothing today coming from the ethiopian government. >> 364 people killed in the two crashes. thank you. >>> some democrats refusing to move on from collusion and so too it seems is the president. here he is at his first rally since he was effectively cleared of collusion. >> after three years of lies and smears and slander, the russia hoax is finally dead. th

the aircraft involved was the same model as a lion air plane which went down off the coast of indonesiatober, claiming the lives of all 189 people on board. the cause of that crash is still being investigated. the boeing 737 max—8 has only been in commercial use since 2017. it's from a new family of aircraft which boeing claims is the fastest—selling in its history, with nearly 4,700 orders from more than 100 customers worldwide. the us federal aviation administration says it's "closely monitoring developments". we can cross live to los angeles, to speak to geoffrey thomas, editor of airlineratings.com. given the latest developments, what conclusions can you draw? look, sally, i think that the grounding by china and ethiopian is possibly premature. i can understand the ethiopians, but the chinese possibly not. we have to remember with the indonesian lion air crash, while the investigation is still ongoing and we are yet to get the final report, we are yet to get the final report, we have had a preliminary report from the indonesians. it points to maintenance issues, a faulty sensor, and

the lion air crash was the reason for this.don't know enough about the ethiopian crash to draw conclusions from it. but they'll be looking closely at what did the software do, what did the pilots do in response and the same issues in lion air to see what extent are they similar, what extent are they different. >> chris, wondering yesterday before the latest information on the satellite tracking data was out, you didn't agree with the idea that the planes should be grounded have you changed your position on that and then also what is the precedent that the grounding sets in your mind? >> i haven't changed my position, it is just that i'm nervous about entering new territory when we don't know where it will take us. it will be an interesting journey, times they have changed, they'll keep changing, it will be an interesting journey to be grounding an airplane for reason other than catastrophic mechanical failure that's a single point failure a pilot can't fix in the moment. in this situation, the pilot can fix it if the pilot is p

and from the lion air crash in october apparently changes the status of the planes and how it needs to be flown the boeing says that pilots don't need new training for the max right that's what that's what boeing said because boeing claims that if in any case of emergency or if anything goes not as planned palace simply have to follow the protocol in order to fly the plane as any three seven thirty seven pilots have or say that's not the case we need more training ok davies because of cover some insight on the boeing seven hundred seven max thanks for that . and now to some of the other stories making news around the world in syria the u.s. backed syria democratic forces have resumed military operations against so-called islamic state in. operations had paused to allow more civilians to be evacuated more than sixty thousand people have been displaced by fighting there syrian regime forces prepared to retake the jihadists a final enclave in the country. tunisia's health minister has resigned over the sudden deaths of eleven newborn babies outrage has been growing since the babies died a

it has been in the works since the lion air crash. this is after the faa says it is mandating design changes. after the lion air crash, boeing stood by the max 8. >> very important is that the 737 max is safe. we're very confident in that. >> overnight several airlines and entire countries temporarily suspended operation of the 737 max 8. singapore, aero mexico joining indonesia and all of china. u.s. based carriers sticking with the boeing model. american airlines flies 24, southwest flies 34. and they will continue to do so. >> experts' opinions on whether to fly the 737 max 8 are mixed. former ntsb chief jim hall says boeing should, quote, do the responsible thing and ground the plane until the cause is determined and any problems are addressed. farai sevenzo is ed flight was supposed to land. >> reporter: absolutely. and of course there are still many concerns about the boeing 737. how do americans feel about it, what have they read. here are some views. >> people were nervous. a lot of reading on the paper and also the internet.

satellite data shows the flight patterns between the flight 302 and lion air flight were similar and physical evidence found that the crash seen in africa includes the jacks, it was set in a dive position indicating there may have been an issue with going's automated flight control software. cbs news has learned that federal authorities have told employees at the company and the faa to retain docus deing with the approval process of the max jets. boeing's pilot training is being questioned. learned u.s. pilots were given initial training of 56 minutes on an ipad about the differences between the new boeing max as well as a revision to pilot training to address concerns stemming from the lion air crash. mola lenghi, cbs news, reagan national airport, virginia. >>> a boeing max 8 planes remain grounded in the u.s. and other countries while the investigations continue. >>> another candidate has jumped into the crowded field of 2020 democratic presidential nominees, officially kicking off her campaign yesterday, the 6th female candidate to enter the race so far. and there are now 14 demo

the grounding will impact flight lion air. the grounding will impact flight schedules.ng to travel agents, they are scrambling to rebook their clients on other flights admits there is very short notice from singapore's aviation regulator. indonesia, on monday, already ordered airlines to ground the aircraft. tainah‘s aviation regulator ordered domestic carriers to suspend flights of the model. —— china. and there are more than 90 planes operating from the mainland. ethiopian airlines and came airlines have grounded the aircraft. several north american carriers have said they are monitoring the ongoing investigation. and according to boeing's website, 16 airlines have taken delivery of the 737 max 8, including air italy and india's spicejet. including air italy and india's spice jet. in the meantime, boeing has announced some modifications of this plane. that is right. several months ago they have said that they would be deploying a software upgrade for this 737 max 8. the karpany also said it had been developing a flight control software enhancement for several months i

also the lion air on october 29 in indonesia.rom the faa saying no conclusive evidence linking the loss of the plane and lion air crash, the latest news as well, the flight data and voice recorders have been more so that will give information on to the cause of this crash, still too early to say if those two crashes are linked but the faa says right now no conclusive evidence. i want to run through an list airlines in countries that have grounded the model so far, china has issued a blanket grounding of all 737 max planes, that was 96 aircraft, indonesian -- indonesia also including lion air's 10 in service, they have 190 ordered. ethiopian airlines, the victim of this most recent tragedy has four, cayman has grounded there to bank, 737 max eight, era mexico is the latest saying minutes ago they were going to suspend all flights of their claims, there are six of them and a brazilian carrier have an 800 andfleet mostly 700s but they have six max eights, they are also grounding the max eight fleet. we just her from the new zealand

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were those the same situation against the lion air flight.o try to pull that up to correct the automated system, until the jet crashed. were those a similar kind of issues that were taking place in the ethiopian airlines flight. that's the questions that we're looking for out of these investigations. >> the boeing 737 max 8 has been grounded around the world, out of caution. now, according to a report in "the wall street journal," the u.s. inspector general's office, is wondering why the federal aviation administration, to fly in the first place. the safety system in the lion air crash, by a government official. the faa says the aircraft certification processes are well established and have produced safe aircraft define. the 737 max followed the standard certification process. >>> it may be the first known attempt to kill a head of state with a commercial drone. new videos provide insight into the failed attack to kill venezuela's prime minister. with savings and checking accounts you can open from here in 5 minutes. this is banking reimagine

flight 610 accident. >> lion air went down almost five months ago.ut that the 737-max jets have taken off and landed safety tens of thousands of times since the lion air crash. authorities are saying it is simply not enough. boeing must now prove the planes are fully safe before any will be allowed to take passengers. >> let's not forget 346 people, men, women and children were killed in those two crashes involving that aircraft. thanks very much. >>> coming up the escalating feud between president trump and the husband of one of his closest advisers. so...how many credit cards did i have after business school? six? yeah...that interest rate was crazy. good thing i got a loan to pay them off faster. and right before i got engaged. but now that i'm debt-free, i can actually contribute to the wedding. and go on a honeymoon. you know... out of state. well, this is why i sofi. with sofi's no-fee personal loans, consolidate your credit cards to get one lower monthly payment. mike and jen doyle? yeah. time for medicare, huh. i have no idea how we're going

how useful and reliable is it to draw comparisons with the lion air flight at this point? t's a complete waste of time. the air accident investigation teams are onlyjust the air accident investigation teams are only just now the air accident investigation teams are onlyjust now gathering and starting their work. it will be a long time before a meaningful result is drawn from that investigation. so while it is tempting to get carried away and say this has a lot of similarities with the lion air crash, subsequent to that investigation as your reporter mentioned, air directives were issued about operating procedures and so one with the airport, macro aircraft. while it has similarities, there may be other issues that come out in the course of the investigation. what is different about the boeing 737 max—8 compared with the original 737? quite a lot from the original 77 from the original 1960s, bowing have had more, is a further in —— iterations. the engine model aircraft in the 19805, the engine model aircraft in the 1980s, followed by the which came on in the early 2000 and n

just brought up, that this was a new aircraft like the one that crashed, that lion aircraft, and that they were both in the airrt amount of time. i'm trying to remember, david, didn't the crew in the lion crash, didn't they signal some duress from the cockpit? >> reporter: well, there was the issue of the sensors and that the crew had difficulty controlling the plane because of the sensor inputs. that was the initial assessment of that lion air crash. in this case, we don't know if there was communication at this stage, between the airline on the ground, the ground staff, as well as the pilots leaving on that morning flight to nairobi. now, there are multiple flights a day between nairobi and addis ababa. this is a very popular route as i said. and ethiopia airlines has perhaps the newest fleet in africa, in fact amongst any major carriers. they have invested heavily in the airline and would have received this aircraft only recently. so too early to say. the primary worry will be for the families waiting in both addis ababa and nairobi and around the world, waiting for information. they've set up a center in t

few months ago by two ally an aircraft that was also a relatively new they're both airlines both lion air and ethiopian are incorporating the seven thirty seven max into their fleet eighty open head up until today and they will likely get many more so beyond that it's hard to speculate that there may be any connection between the liner event and this event or certainly when the black boxes when the maintenance records when the other records of this flight are looked at there may be some correlation between the lion air crash and this crash. but for now there is nothing that says that there's any direct relationship so far even so there's some questions for boeing to answer it would seem at the moment i mean. i think i recall correctly there's a phrase which pilots would say if it ain't boeing then i am an orphan i am boeing i ain't going i are you referring to their safety record that is not looking brilliant right now. well again this is something that will take the experts in the field to get to the bottom of it already the n.t.s.b. which is one of the premier organizations in the world

back in october a seven thirty seven next model lion air jet crashed in indonesia and earlier this month an e.p. if you've been airlines jet of the same model went down shortly after takeoff and both cases all people on board were killed. with more on this let's bring in the unscored on wall street again what do people on the trading floor make of this cancellation is it a sign of worse things to come for boeing it is the first big to come up with the idea of cancellations and this boeing lost about three percent in value shortly before the weekend but we have to wait and see how this plays out to first of all boeing will actually meet with the representatives of the next week and your conscious to cancel in order without a penalty and then also a lot of our lines do not even have an interest to change from one plane make to another if you look at the pilot training if you look at maintenance and other issues it's months more cost efficient if you only deal was one plane let's say from boeing all from us so it's really too early to tell if. it is the single case and if it at the en

because we already know so much about the preliminary report into that lion air crash. which that pointed in terms of this particular system and how it was put in place. so many questions also over in particular the federal aviation administration's handing over of so much of the controlling of the systems, the testing of the air worthiness to the aviation companies themselves and in this case specifically boeing. there are so many questions that need to be answered. also, perhaps why it took the united states and canada much longer than other countries who immediately after that ethiopian airlines crash on march 10th said that as a sort of precautionary measure and china was the first to do this they were going to ground that fleet of particular boeing 737s. it wasn't till the wednesday when is a new information apparently emerged that both the united states and canada decided to ground them. very hard to see how any of them will be off the ground till all the important questions where is answered. >> and the requests why it took the u.s. and canada longer to ground th

this, as new details emerge from the terrifying final moments aboard that lion air flight, the one that crashed last fall in indonesia, raising the first concerns about that plane's safety. here's tom costello. >> reporter: tonight, nbc news has confirmed the fbi has joined the investigation looking at how boeing 737 max was certified for flight. the worldwide max fleet remains grounded following two fatal crashes in five months. and now more information about the final moments on the indonesianli in the air for just 12 minutes, the lion air pilots tried desperately to pull up the nose of their 737 max 8 but the anti-stall system called mcas pushed the nose down more than 20 times. three people who heard the plane's black box recordings tell reuters the crew didn't understand the problem and even looked through a handbook for answers. the crew discussed air speed and altitude but not the plane's trim, meant to keep the plane level, the real problem. in the final seconds of the fatal dive, the captain remained quiet. the first officer asked god for a miracle. nbc news has not reviewed th

: after the lion air crash, boeing worked on design updates to the 737 max 8s. the faa says those have to be done by next month but have decided not to ground the aircraft until investigators have determined across for the most recent crash. the black box has been recovered. hopefully that will give investigators some answers. >>> kpix 5 have learned three people had ties to california. friends say melvin and bennett riffel were on vacation traveling to africa. both brothers graduated from shasta high school. friends say melvin and his wife are expecting their first child this may. anne musyoki worked for tech soup based in san francisco. she was a regional lead in africa and a wife and mother returning home from a work event. >>> developing this morning, the u. s. state department is ordering all remaining americans out of venezuela as the country's political crisis intensified. venezuelans are using buckets and trash bins to gather water. shops are being looted and hospitals are turning away patients as the country experiences its sixth day of rolling blackout

all on board that plane were killed just like in the fatal crash last fall with the lion air flight. >> more than two dozen airlines have grounded the max 8. norwegian airlines, a major european carrier added to the list. the u.s. still isn't among them. the faa still isn't among them. the american association of flight attend nlants told the f we need help from the regulators when the world is looking at two catastrophic incidents. let's discuss with former ntsb managing director. we talked for a number of years about flight issues. you have always been a smart guy, a lot of experience. it surprised me that folks in that same category have told us in the last 24 hours they have to put this plane on the ground. i wonder if you agree. >> i think the pressure is building. the u.k. this morning made that call to say put this plane down. they were joined earlier by both singapore and australia. those are three very respected regulatory agencies. i would say the pressure has built to an almost unbearable level for the department of transportation and the faa. i think if they don't hear so

did they ever conclude the lion air investigation? do you know? >> they have not, no. neither that or nor anything that has come out of this latest one. tells me that they're going to issue an air worthiness directive that the faa has something that they need to say. >> this air worthiness directive comes from the faa or from boeing? >> faa. this is government agency will issue this. secretary chao announced the faa would do that at 5:00. >> jeff flock, thanks very much. appreciate it. >> thanks, charles. >> billions more for the wall? new work requirements for welfare. the president's budget is calling for it. juxtapose that with something democrat alexandria ocasio-cortez just said, well, we'll debate it. michael cohen heading for a perjury probe. what a top house democrat hints at it, should he start worrying about it? jerry reed singing "eastbound and down" ♪eastbound and down. loaded up and truckin'♪ ♪we gonna do what they say can't be done♪ ♪we've got a long way to go ♪and a short time to get there.♪ ♪i'm eastbound, just watch ole bandit run♪ whatever party you've

some of the other regulators around the world, they think the similarities to the lion air crash that few months ago in october is efficient enough to warrant concern and enough concern to do the groundings. i think there is a question whether the faa is treating this ethiopian air crash as an isolated incident, as opposed to linking them and thinking of the potential for a trend here. amanda: one of the interesting things about this, if you can use that word, for boeing and the aviation authority, is it that more time passes, it harder it is to recent -- to reverse course? doing it immediately come a what have looked benign, the longer they wait, it looks like they have discovered something new and it raises more alarm. becausebecome too late, it would send the wrong message? ben: i think what we are watching now is what happens with the black boxes. ethiopia has retrieved the black boxes yesterday. they are discussing talking about sending it to your. they have approached germany, asking germany to look at that. as soon as the data comes out, if the faa were to answer the question,

even if this was the same thing as the lion air accident six months ago, it is very easily solvable. reporter: in late october, a boeing lion airplane operated by lion air crashed off of indonesia. killing all on board. the pilots reported technical difficulties. the two planes appeared to struggle to gain altitude, before making a steep nosedive and crashing less than 15 minutes after takeoff. >> very much well-known in the community. >> reporter: mucaad hue says abdalla was one of eight americans who died on sunday. friends knew him as feraj. >> you can see that in the quality. >> reporter: after the lion air crash, boeing started working on the design of the max 8. the faa said those changes must be done by next month. there are currently 350 boeing 737 max jets in service around the world. more than 70 of them are operated by u.s. airlines. anne-marie. >> laura podesta here in new york. thank you so much, laura. >>> the white house is signaling that president trump is still considering a pardon for his former campaign chair paul manafort. manafort was sentenced to nearly four yea

the pilots of the lion air flight tried to maintain 5,000 feet. e plane was having air feed problems. the pilot asked the first officer to check for a list of abnormal events. boeing maintains there's a protocol for overriding the so many but boeing did not include the anti-stall system or the 737 max 8 manual so the pilots didn't know what to look nor. the cockpit voice recorder shows the pilots were concerned about the increasing speed and decreasing altitude. now there's questions about whether the faa failed to properly oversee the roll-out of the max 8 and gave boeing engineers too much latitude on safety decisions. it's a big deal. you'll hear a lot about it in the coming months. >> shepard: thanks, trace. flooding problems. the waters of the mississippi and the missouri rivers continue to rise. we'll look at the areas in the country hardest hit and we'll talk with a woman forced out of her home by the floods and her children are asking questions. that's next. i'd like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans, because i know there are s

also, of course, this is the same plane that crashed off indonesia in november of last year, the lion air plane, and at the time many questions were asked about whether cheques happened, et cetera. this aircraft has been around since 2017. indeed, and this is the kind of plane that companies like, this is an airline that is going full global reach. it has been expanding rapidly and even had 29 of these boeing 737 max—8 on order. if they are to maintain their strong reputation i wonder whether they will have to make some decisions going forward. for details on that, the rescue effort still under way

that is according to the investigation from lion air. there will be more coming out of the ethiopia investigation as well. host: hello. caller: good morning. i was curious, are these new 737's still having cable controls between the controls and the cut it in the flight surfaces? or is it a flyby wire set up? i saw a spokesperson for pilot association who was deeply angry about not having information from the software manufacturers. can these planes be controlled from the ground? that is all i got for you. thank you. combination.re a they are not a true fly by wire because they are based on the traditional 737. these planes at this juncture in the aviation nations of the world know passenger aircraft are controlled from the ground. you are correct. ral aviation administration has tested that out with large aircraft over the united states which could carry passengers. they tested that capability a decade ago. it is possible, but that equipment is not operational on any passenger carrying airline. maybe that is what the president meant whe

crash. >> the full track of the ethiopian flight was very close to lion air. the initial track that we got on sunday and monday morning was only three minutes long, the first three minutes of the flight the new track data we looked at was almost for the entire length of the flight. also the evidence that we discovered on the ground actually was even further evidence that the flight was very similar to lion air. >> in the order to ground the boeing 737, both max 8 and max 9, the acting administrator has determined that an emergency exists related to safety in air commerce the data recorder, the cockpit voice recorder were damaged in the crash and special equipment is needed to extract the information from them. so now those data recorders will go to france ooethiopia is leading the investigation with assistance from the faa and the ntsb. flight aware sent out a statement saying it and its partners have provided the data on flight 302 as part of the information they use to monitor these planes globally that is now contributing to the investigation. we now know i

the faa says there aresimilari lion air max 8 crash in indonesia last october. satellite data shows that plane experienced erratic vertical speed readings after taking off, up and down for seven minutes, climbing at 1,500 feet per minute, then descending at 1,500 feet per minute. data from the ethiopian plane is similar, up and down, then up again over a very volatile two minutes. the faa also says it found new evidence in the ethiopian wreckage. investigators looking closely now at the position of the jackscrew that moves the stabilizer on the tail which could indicate if the nose of the plane was being forced down, much like lion air. >> the flight recorder and the cockpit voice recorder data is absolutely critical to understanding what happened in ethiopia, and if there is commonality with the lion air tragedy. >> reporter: still, the faa remains under fire for only grounding the plane after every other country in the world acted first. did your close relationship with boeing and with the airlines in any way lead you to delay the decision to nd we're linked t

last october, lion's air flight went down 12 minutes into flight.nvestigation says the onboard sensors indicated the plane was going to stall. the computers then mistakenly pushed the nose of the plane down to pick up speed. the pilot struggled to pull the nose up, not realizing they were fighting a new automated anti-stall system mcas they never told pilots about. boeing said they should have known how to disengage the system. >> what i do, immediately turn over the switches and cut the motor out. and as you can see, it stopped the trim. >> reporter: now, investigators in africa will examine the plane's black boxes for any sign the ethiopian crew faced the same issues as the lion air pilots. if so, more countries, including the u.s., could ground the plane. today 354 737 maxes are flying around the world, with more on the way. in america, flown by american, united, southwest and care an da. there are no reports in the u.s., airlines and their pilots say they didn't know about the anti-stall system until the indonesia crash. the faa issued an emerge

while boeing 737 max will the ethiopian airlines and lion air tragedies, investigators are looking tooeing for clues. sources tell cbs news the ccerl process for the 737 max. >> if there is any documentation that indicates that they knew there was a problem and either didn't resolve it to the satisfaction of the faa or didn't reveal that, that could put them in jeopardy in terms of a possible criminal violation. >> reporter: the ethiopian airlin crash this month and lion air disaster in october combined killed 346 people. both planes crashed minutes after takeoff. preliminary flight data indicates the jets struggled to gain altitude. th"seattle times" reported a safety assessment boeing gave the faa appeared to downplay the certification of the anti-stall system that's believed to have repeatedly pushed the nose down during the lion air crash. >> most likely it was a connection between technology that may be new and training that might not have been ready yet either, and crew procedures and airline procedures that also might have been a mistake. >> reporter: separately on thursday boe

inside the cockpit, breaking this morning, recordings from that doomed lion air 737 max joe jet. and a new report that the very same plane nearly crashed the day before and was saved by an offduty pilot in the right place at the right time. >>> new overnight, crews finally douse that stubborn inferno at a chemical plant in texas burning for three straight days but this morning lingering health concerns. >> i don't think anybody can look at it and honestly say everything is fine. >>> war of words. president trump escalating his

lion air may switch to airbus. first 737 max crash.l news 24 hours a day, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. this is bloomberg. alix: thank you. boeing responsible for 150 points on the dow yesterday. list of of countries -- countries is getting longer and longer, banning the 737 max. joining me now, benny campbell. when you look at the last 24 hours, how bad did it wind up getting for boeing? >> it is pretty bad for boeing. there's a sense of insecurity at the moment. we know the plane crashed. that's all we know. the data recorder has been recovered. we had that similarity to the lion air crash in october. insecurity is really weighing on the boeing stock right now. today, abit of a slip dramatic fall yesterday. that lion air may ,e switching to archrival airbus. alix: some of these contracts are locked in for a long time. are there some airlines that will have to take delivery of the 737 max if they don't want it? >> it is hard to wiggle out of these agreements. those are locked in. it's n

eight operated by lion air crashed in indonesia both cases or people on board were killed u.s. prosecutors are investigating the certification process for the chief. and are just some other global business stories making the news. right helling company has picked the new york stock exchange for its i.p.o. the listing is lined up for april and could value the company at one hundred twenty billion dollars one of the five biggest ever global ride sharing platform also operates in more than fifteen major african cities from cairo in the north to cape town in this house. a study by pricewaterhouse coopers says tried in india will dominate the i.p.o. scene by twenty thirty putting wall street into third place peter you see also says that liquidity and a stable currency dictate mostly what a company decides to float its shares head of the here rypien people's party in the e.u. parliament month is called for a marshall plan for africa mr bieber who hopes to replace you as president of the european commission said the e.u. must do its best to help stabilize what he called europe's neigh