and our guests are dmitry bigbaev and lioni tsoi.t us now and saying, well, smart , beautiful people, in general, seemingly talented , are sitting, in general, about beautiful, sublime things and even in general, usefully, apparently talking. and we, in general, look at all this and think, but how can we get involved there? in general, how do we go to this holiday of creativity and everything in general, how to get there, how to get there, this is the most important thing, in fact, here we, for example, do not wait with our team for them to come to us, we go ourselves, that is, we are already imprisoned several years ago they began to collect big data on all creative groups, teachers, interesting people, and so on, throughout our whole russia, today, i can boast a little, even the ministry of culture does not have such data as we have. we certainly tried very hard, always, when our festivals or competitions begin to be held, we make sure to notify everyone, we personally sit down, cool off and go, so wait, you have a database of whom

and our guests are dmitry bigbaev and lioni tsoi., seem to be talented, they sit, in general, about beautiful, sublime things and even in general with benefit, apparently they talk, and we, in general, look at all this and think, how can we get involved in it? in general, how can we celebrate creativity and everyone in general on this holiday? how to get there, how to get there, this is the most important thing, in fact, for example, we, with our team, do not wait for people to come to us, we go ourselves, that is, we have been imprisoned for several years already... we started collecting big data for all creative collectives, interesting teachers and so on, all over our russia today, and i can boast a little, even the ministry of culture does not have the same data as we do, of course we tried very hard, and always when our festivals or competitions begin to be held, we we make sure to notify everyone, we personally sit down, let’s go, so wait, you have a base of whom, what kind of people are these, these are all cultural centers, a

podcast that elena kiper and i will introduce , and roman karmanov, our guests are dmitry bigbaev, lioni tsoieople, in general, they seem to be talented, they are sitting, in general, about beautiful sublime things and even in general with apparently they reason about benefits, but we, in general , look at all this and think, how can we get involved in it in general? yeah, for this holiday and in general, how to get there, how to get there, this is the most important thing, in fact, here we, for example, don’t wait with our team for people to come to us, we go ourselves, that is, we have been imprisoned for several years already began to collect big data on all creative groups, teachers, interesting people and so on, throughout our whole russia, today, i can boast a little, even at the ministry of culture we don’t have the same data as we have, competitions, we make sure to notify everyone, we personally sit down, cool down and go, so wait, you have a database of whom, what kind of people are these, these are all cultural centers, all theaters where our audience is involved , this is childhoo