for start with congressman lipinski. phil spoke of congress and i think we could say especially the house as being a place supposed be a bunch of diverse interests being piled into the same forum and then having to work things out amongst themselves, which, as phil hinted, can go two basic ways, either they cancel each other out and nothing happens, or they somehow bargain out a compromise that enough of them can live with. it can then move on to the next chamber. was that happening when? you were in congress. was that happening much a lot? not much at all. what was your experience? well, let me let me start with phil read the wrap. let me read this from distinguish academic and public servant. what the blurb on the back of the book. well, few would claim that the contemporary congress is uniting the nation, solving our most vexing problems. why congress lays out a convincing case that this is exactly what the institution was designed to do, has done in the past and do once again. and let me tell you, as we all know, it'

oh, 1968 terra lipinski. terra lipinski. terra was not born in 68. what's your name? i can't remember. oh, come on, louise. i can't get names. i what's a nickname for margaret? big. oh, peggy fleming. yes they have a market cap of $190 billion, and it's one of the biggest entertainment companies in the world. and they're right here in los gatos. can you name the company? apple. apple? well there's an apple store right there, but they're in cupertino. it's based from here. yes what kind of company? like a streaming company. oh oh, and you use it. netflix really? i use netflix. you do? i do. do i? netflix? you are correct. i'm so smart. you know what? you're asking about? a style about the fashion answer everything you ask me. hey, listen, i want to go to this wedding. i want this event. what i want. i'll put together a beautiful thing for you, but i want netflix. that's the answer. he's here. i know. do you use netflix? no no, no. i can barely get our tv on and all in spanish. los gatos means the cats and you'll see statues like this one in front of the high school thr

yeah oh, darn, darn right back. 1968, lipinski, tara lipinski. tara was not born in 60.s her name? i can't remember. oh, come on, louise. i can't get names. i what's a nickname for margaret? big o. peggy fleming. yes they have a market cap of $190 million, and it's one of the biggest entertainment companies in the world. and they're right here in los gatos. can you name the company? apple. apple? well there's an apple store right there, but they're in cupertino. it's based from here. yes what kind of company? like a streaming company. oh oh, and you use it. netflix really? i use netflix. you do? i do. do i? netflix? you are correct. i i'm so smart. you know what you're asking about? a style about the fashion answer everything you ask me. hey, listen, i want to go to this wedding. i want this event. what i want. i'll put together a beautiful thing for you, but i want netflix. that's the answer. he's here. i know. do you use netflix? no no, no. i can barely get our tv on and off in spanish. los gatos means the cats and you'll see statues like this one in front of the high

. >> i'm going to go back to congressman lipinski. this image of the house not being the place where interests are able to work out amongst themselves as being driven from the top down. is that a structural issue primarily by the internal rules and structure of theha chamber? is that a partisanship issue? what is it? >> it is driven by partisanship. driven by the divide in the country. but it is reinforced by the rules. in the committee on modernization of congress is one of the things is one of the things the bill were hoping to. at the beginning of this congress some of the freedom freedomcaucus member senate op'd washington processing they are talking about to open this process up. we went said what is going on but we do not want this to be top-down. we said this is good. it is interesting though they felt that they want more of a say somehow they are going to have more control. i did not quite understand that. i am all for opening things up. the d problem solvers caucus wee always trying to do that. after 2019 election democrats 2