lippmann says, wake up. you have to be in charge. >> also being called to action instead of taking a more passive stance, but also the context of freudian psychological -- >> he does not mention freud there rectally here at all, but ideas areall of these coming. they are not deeply popular yet. that will be a later date, but freud has been to the united states by now and this notion of this unconscious roiling cauldron inside people making them do things they are not aware they are doing is there as well. yes. >> also by using the word dreaming, what comes to mind is a kind of idealism and he talked about this before -- when i thought he was a pragmatist, but when he says it calls to return back to nature, this is like an animal that tried to eat itself. it could manage with the hind legs, but the head presented difficulty. when we are dreaming, we are doing things that are not moving us to an action, falling back on this paradox almost. >> that's right. and when we are moving and living our lives in that wa