many of us involved in network to hear you talk about what the role of the lipscomb university programhere was an inside-out class program generally. >> they call it part of the salts curriculum commence earning and learning together. it's the life program the lipscomb Ãbi was four years into serving my sentence when the opportunity became part of the program. at a jump a lot of hurdles.. by the grace of god i got in it. i was expecting, i'm going to further my education, i'm going to get something that's going to look good when i go before the court and go before the governor and discover look really good on paper but once i got into the class what i realized is i had been welcomed into a community. i was in a place where all throughout my early life and public school come in my own community i had always been made to feel like i was an outcast. i had always been made to feel like because of things that i had gone through or things that i had done i was just written off, i was no good. the court process that just amplifies that. for me to djust be welcomed int this community of people

. >> my name is kathy lipscomb, and i live in district 8, and i've been a tenant for all of my time in san francisco, which is over 25 years. as the deadline for the eviction moratorium draws near, tenants who cannot pay their rent because of covid are grateful that you have taken a proactive role in this matter. dean preston and the other cosponsors of the legislation, we don't need another disaster, which is what mass evictions would be. people in unemployment don't need to go through hell with worry over losing their homes. ideally, small landlords who can't meet their bills should have access to financial aid, and i'm very glad that supervisor preston is moving in this direction. but meanwhile, the landlords and small landlords should be knocking on the doors of the san francisco apartment association and asking them to do something, such as set up a fund to help them immediately. this could happen if there's enough pressure put on them by their members. these people in the association have access to some of the wealthiest people in the city, so i think that would help immensely in

. >> my name is kathy lipscomb, and i live in district 8, and i've been a tenant for all of my time in san francisco, which is over 25 years. as the deadline for the eviction moratorium draws near, tenants who cannot pay their rent because of covid are grateful that you have taken a proactive role in this matter. dean preston and the other cosponsors of the legislation, we don't need another disaster, which is what mass evictions would be. people in unemployment don't need to go through hell with worry over losing their homes. ideally, small landlords who can't meet their bills should have access to financial aid, and i'm very glad that supervisor preston is moving in this direction. but meanwhile, the landlords and small landlords should be knocking on the doors of the san francisco apartment association and asking them to do something, such as set up a fund to help them immediately. this could happen if there's enough pressure put on them by their members. these people in the association have access to some of the wealthiest people in the city, so i think that would help immensely in

. >> my name is kathy lipscomb, and i live in district 8, and i've been a tenant for all of my time in francisco, which is over 25 years. as the deadline for the eviction moratorium draws near, tenants who cannot pay their rent because of covid are grateful that you have taken a proactive role in this matter. dean preston and the other cosponsors of the legislation, we don't need another disaster, which is what mass evictions would be. people in unemployment don't need to go through hell with worry over losing their homes. ideally, small landlords who can't meet their bills should have access to financial aid, and i'm very glad that supervisor preston is moving in this direction. but meanwhile, the landlords and small landlords should be knocking on the doors of the san francisco apartment association and asking them to do something, such as set up a fund to help them immediately. this could happen if there's enough pressure put on them by their members. these people in the association have access to some of the wealthiest people in the city, so i think that would help immensely in the