lisa harris. lisa, it's good to see you back. (dr. lisa harris) good to see you, peter. (peter) now nobody on this team knows this case and i'm going to get right to work. let me tell you a little bit about elaine. elaine is fifty-six years old and she's been a smoker for thirty years. three years ago, elaine went to her primary care physician, lisa, and she had the following symptoms. she said, i'm short of breath with even small amounts of activity. i've got trouble climbing stairs. i have to stop and catch my breath. i'm coughing all day long. i wake up at night coughing. now i'm coughing up sputum she says, especially in the morning and its increasing and i can't seem to clear it. she's 5'6" and 128 pounds. her blood pressure is 138/74. her pulse is 98. her respiratory rate is 24. and when her doctor listens to her chest the description here is course rales and scattered wheezing. what are rales? (lisa) well rales are defused sounds that you hear within the lung that tell you that there's something happening. it's not very specific but it tells you that there's somet

>> lisa, you wouldn't think this is untrue, right?rely, the attorney's not going to come in and say something that he knows to be untrue. >> no, lawyers would never stretch the truth. lawyers would never -- >> a lawyer -- a lawyer might -- correct me if i'm wrong -- a state's attorney is not going to be dishonest. he may not tell the entire truth. did this gym owner advertise george zimmerman comes here or not? >> we've already seen a lot of mistakes from the lawyers about twitter, for example. did you tweet something? they followed somebody on twitter you know, whether you advertise or somebody talked about you on social media, lawyers make mistakes like anyone else. i'm not going to assume anything from the question. >> paul, what did you think of the opening question, the beginning of the prosecution's rebuttal? >> i think it's an important point to make in front of the jury, which is why they've asked it. the issue is like lisa referencing now is the scope, you're limited in skoel when you call a rebuttal witness. income comes up

lisa, i want to the start with you. based on what we were just hearing there, that's testimony that would seem to suggest that the defense wants the jury to think more about mr. zimmerman's cooperation with law enforcement than anything else that may seem allegedly inconsistent in his testimony. >> well, it's certainly a point for them that george zimmerman did cooperate from the very beginning. i was fascinated by his use of the term suspect. you know, the police officer who did the investigation didn't see to find anything wrong with that. that's kind of cop speak. that's the way police officers talk. but of course, trayvon martin was never a suspect. he was never suspected of any crime by anyone except george zimmerman, who h was committing any crime. when think said, toall him somew about the young man, the teenager, the 17-year-old boy. there are a lot of other things you could have called him if you didn't know his name besides>> ? is retracts from other statements mr. zimmerman has given, including in his written

>> lisa and her volunteers have created some 8,000 boxes.he boxes are then delivered to social workers across the bay area who in turn give them to mothers in need. >> this is from barbara. >> women lisa never sees but sometimes hears for. >> my husband lost a job as a janitor. >> the letters these often very young women send letting lisa know what they were able to do with the money they didn't have to use for clothes. >> i can't imagine that. to know that we're clothing these babies who were perhaps born into a world they did not choose, i think that's why it's so successful and makes people want to help. >> and if you do want to help, she says the three things everybody needs are volunteers, baby clothes and money money. >> we can help right here. you got boxes of baby clothes in the garage. >> you need some time to separate yourself. you look at the boxes and you're like, why do i still have these? >> and that's why she get os many. a lot of people like us who have the stuff. then you finally say i got to do something with these boxes. w

we want to go to lisa bloom. lisa, help us, if you can, break this down. has there been anything you've heard so far that is significant? >> dr. nakasone is an electronics engineer and is now just giving his background and qualifications, which both sides agree is an expert in the area. now we're getting to the 911 call where someone is heard screaming in the background. >> let's listen to the testimony. thank you. >> the portion was around 45 seconds. that's from the beginning of the recording, until there was a loud noise, almost like a gunshot-like audio event. and that duration was about 45 seconds. we listened to the entire conversation exchanged between the female caller and the female 911 operator. and when i was listening to those conversations, of course, i xo hecould hear the voices gon the background. an altercation. somebody asking for help. and that yelling, or screaming, we can call it screaming, the screaming goes in and out. when the dispatcher and the female caller were talking. and sometimes the screaming comes up isolated from those. but

lisa bloom, we haven't seen enough of you, lisa bloom. >> i know. 9:00 to 11:00, we're doing a special, karen desoto. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >>> good evening, from new york. i'm chris hayes. it was 16 1/2 months ago, february 26th, 2012, the altercation between trayvon mention min martin and george michael zimmerman took place in sanford, florida. tonight the fate of george zimmerman rests in the hands of a jury of six. there's other news tonight including an actual appearance of edward snowden in moscow. we'll show you later. we begin, of course, in florida, where 5 1/2 hours ago after 12 days of testimony, the jury was handed the case of the state of florida versus george zimmerman. the man that's charged with second-degree murder in the killing of trayvon martin. mr. zimmerman has pleaded not guilty. claiming

so lisa bloom, what are you going to do? >> first of all, i would start by saying the prosecution asked you a lot of questions in the on the ground statement and since they don't have the answers, you don't have the answer, that's reasonable doubt, so i don't even have to go on, but i will go on. george zimmerman told his story over and over again, why didn't he lawyer up? he had nothing to hide, and sure there are minor inconsistencies in his story. that's to be expected any time a traumatized person tells his story over and over and over in detail. but the central story never changed, that he killed in self-defense. that story matches up with all of the medical and scientific evidence. that testimony of dr. vincent di maio. it has never been refuted in this case. the prosecution has the burden of proof to show this is not a self-defense killing beyond a reasonable doubt. the prosecution has gone far away from getting that point across. >> midwin charles, what did you see -- if you're the defense lawyer, what did you see in

kira. >> lisa, thank you. breaking news out of san leandro where about a dozen homes are without water because of a water main break. it happened just before 1:00 this morning on foothill boulevard and 166th avenue. water officials say a six inch main broke, sending water flowing down the foothills. you see there the crews were able to shut off the water just after 2:00 this morning. officials say the repair to the water main will be expensive. it could take until tomorrow to complete >> and break news out of florida where seven people are dead, including a gunman following a shooting at an apartment complex. police say the gunman was shot dead by a s.w.a.t. team after a standoff that started last night outside of miami. at least four people were found dead inside the building. another victim found dead across the street. it's unknown if that person was purposely targeted or if he was hit by a stray pull let. neither the suspect nor the victims have been identified. >>> happening today, an oakland community wi

well, thank you so much, lisa.oing to continue coverage for us with "hardball," so you can go off and take a brief break. but as i said, i'm still joined by john cape hart. john, going back to the point that lisa made. the judge has decided that the only things that can be admitted are what the individual defendant perceived the threat to be. but what are the downsides to getting, if they do manage to include this marijuana claim in? >> well, look, i mean, we're talking pot, not pcp. i mean, i think a lot of people out there who would hear someone was under the influence, however much is in his system, of pot wouldn't exactly think that the person would go on a, you know, a big fighting spree or, you know, a big sort of violent streak. it's actually the opposite. he would have the munchies and want to curl into a ball, or so i'm told. so i'm just -- it's sort of interesting to hear that i was always under the impression that if the defense were able to bring in trayvon martin's toxicology report, mind you, one wasn

let me bring in lisa, since you reference her. lisa, to kerry's point, i've never served on a jury, never been selected to serve. as he pointed out, we are human beings. people bring in their experience, their fabric of life, what they've seen, what they've witnessed. when you're in a situation like this -- and all of these jurors know the high-profile case that they are deliberating over. they know the back and forth in many cases of what's gone on, to some degree anyway. what do you believe they're thinking right now? >> so, you know, i've never been chosen for a jury. i've gone down in the pool and sat there like everybody else, waited all day, and got sent home. i sure have interviewed a lot of jurors, especially after high-profile cases. the first thing they do is pick a foreperson. i think in this case it's safe to say a forewoman of the jury. that's the person who will sort of guide all of the deliberations, make sure that everybody gets a chance to be heard, make sure that the discussions are civil, decide when they take b

carolyn. >> thank you, lisa. we have breaking news out of san leandro where a woman has died following a head-on collision early this morning. it happened around 3:00 a.m. a man was driving southbound on washington avenue when he hit a car traveling in the northbound direction. a man and woman were in that car. the woman was killed. the man taken to the hospital where he's in critical condition this morning. the driver of the car that crashed into them was also taken to the hospital. you see the wreckage there. police are investigating this and if alcohol was a factor. >>> in developing news out of san jose, police are looking for a fan who led officer on a chase that resulted in a patrol car crashing into a tree. it happened just before 9:00 last night on 11th street and santa clara street. police say they were trying to conduct a traffic stop of a wanted suspect when he drove off. an officer who was following him with the patrol car ended up crashing into a key. the suspect got out and fled on foot. so we did a

. >> i will find out from meteorologist lisa argen. lisa. >> kristin, and good morning to you both. starting out with the low fog and clouds about 2,000 feet deep. once again the stratus intrusion into the bay. here's a look at the golden gate bridge. temperatures mainly in the 50s. 53 santa rosa with 56 livermore. it is clear in the south bay with numbers in the low 50s. here's the plan for the fog for the rest of the day. you notice it tense to burn back, but it will be a slow burn off once again. at about 11:00 you notice we still have fog alon the arain and the coast. then partly cloudy skies near the shoreline. as you head out numbers in the 50s to near 60s. upper 70s and 80s. by the evening it's going to be a cool one. the fog comes back but we are setting up for a warmup for the next couple days before we cool down again. a look at the seven-day outlook in a few minutes. back to you. >> lisa, thank you. >> our coverage of the crash continues in a mommy. up next, what we are learning about the plane's pilot and the crash history of the airline. >> and how many passengers were

here's meteorologist lisa argen. how is it look out there, lisa? >> hi, matt. it's looking pretty good. we are starting out with some low clouds and fog around the bay. temperatures mainly in the 50s and the winds are kind of breezy, as well. that will be a factor throughout the afternoon. we are looking at temperatures cooler than we were yesterday at this time. anywhere from 2 to 5 degrees cooler. you take to oakland, we are looking at mostly sunny skies today. take a look at the numbers. mid-and upper 50s at the shoreline, upper 50s to 70 around oakland. in the inland east bay low 80s on the high end. it keeps it for a mild afternoon today. i'll let you know how long it will stick around. these numbers a little below average. matt. >> thanks, lisa. developing news in san francisco. five homes have sustained water damage following a water main break. happened around 10:00 last night in the area of brussell and ordway streets. crews have been cleaning up all morning law. some homes had water as high as three feet. >> it was about that high. i opened the back d

first of all to you, lisa. >> i think there will. doesn't prepare to put on the defendant. somebody who will come forward and say, under these facts, the use of force was appropriate. the judge hasn't rule on that yet. i don't know if that expert will testify. we may hear from george zimmerman's family saying that's his voice screaming out on that 911 call, and we may hear from law enforcement. he initially decided there was no case here. they believed george zimmerman's story. it took 44 days and a ground swell of public support, 2 million people signing a petition and a lot of media attention to get these charges filed. i expect some of that to come out in the defense case, chris. >> do you think an effort he had no racial bias? his past experience with people of different ethnic and racial backgrounds doesn't display any racial point of view in terms of, well, the word is depraved? we've been using that word here in terms of the law. would you have to sort of get that out of the picture for -- for an acquittal? >> right. normally

>> thank you, lisa.'s just too toxic to put on the stand with what she was just saying about some of the past statements? >> i think that part is true but i also think this. mark, excuse me. mark o'mara is making a statement. we want to go to that live right now. >> everyone in the zimmerman family knows that that was george zimmerman screaming. there will be a lot of other evidence as well. we'll present the case. we're just getting started. >> will it go on the same day that the martin family got on the stand. >> i wasn't sure how and when the state was going to end their case and i had mine planned out. it's always fluid according to how things go and the witnesses do. i'm happy with the way it worked out. >> got two witnesses done. that's okay. >> why wasn't he here this week? >> why wasn't he here this week or why wasn't he on the stand or -- >> why wasn't he in court at all? why wasn't he -- >> we'll probably bring him in when the timing is right for him as a witness. >> what is the your opinion on

let's turn to lisa bloom. i think we have a minute here, lisa. what's your latest update? >> well, you're right. he was very good on direct examination, saying that george zimmerman's story was consistent, and that's the buzz word, consistent with the medical evidence. it's also consistent with some other possibilities. . that came out on cross-examination. for example, if trayvon martin was pulling away and george zimmerman was holding his shirt at the time, the medical and scientific evidence would be consistent with that scenario. he also said that george zimmerman could have hit trayvon martin and not have any bruising on him. absence of evidence does not mean evidence. and that he didn't review all of the evidence in the case. that, perhaps, was one of his weaknesses. he didn't review all of the witness statements. he didn't even review all of george zimmerman's statements, simply his last one. he's just left the courtroom. >> all right. stay with us. we're going to listen back in to this new testimony. >> -- investigation surrounding this event, correct? >> there was

carolyn. >> thank you, lisa. we have breaking news out of san leandro where a woman has died following a head-on collision early this morning. it happened around 3 9:00 a.m. a man was driving southbound on washington avenue when he hit a car traveling in the northbound direction. a man and woman were in that car. the woman was held. the man taken to the hospital where he's in critical condition this morning. the driver of the car that crashed into them was also taken to the hospital. police are investigating this alcohol was a factor. >>> in developing news out of san jose, police are looking for a fan who led officer on a chase that resulted in a patrol car crashing into a tree. it happened just before 9 last night. they were trying to conduct a traffic stop of a suspect when he drove off. patrol car ended up crashing into the tree. >> the suspect got out and fled oven search. he has a history of violence. we started doing a yard-to-yard search for him, we will dot find him. we will issue a warrant for his arres

let me start with you, lisa. what was all that about? that was a little strange for those of us that don't spend every day in courtrooms. >> practicing law is not for the faint of heart and it is not the job of the defense attorney to be nice and it is not the job of the judge to be nice. so she's trying to get this done. she's trying to ask the standard questions of a defendant when he elects not to testify. i think she was under the impression he was ready to answer those questions. and don west, i think was trying to say we're not ready. ask us a little later. everybody's doing their job. that's what i guess i'm smiling about. >> faith? >> what happened here is don west wanted her to wait until they finished presenting their case and their witnesses before asking the question. you have to understand the jury is sequestered here. the judge is aware of that. she wants to move forward with the case. so she thought he would be prepared to make that decision. this trial has been going on for three weeks now. they're at the end of their cas

lisa bloom is monitoring the trial for us from burbank.an prosecutor paul henderson joins us live now from san francisco. and again, guys, i'm sure as you just heard there, judge nelson deciding to admit all five of the pieces of evidence that the state was trying to get in there. lisa, how significant of a win is this for the state? >> well, it's a small win for the state. i don't think any of the jurors are going to convict george skimmer man based solely on the fact that he took criminal justice courses or wanted to go on a ride along with local law enforcement. it's another piece of the puzzle. what a prosecution has to do in this case which is a circumstantial case or any circumstantial case is add all of these pieces of evidence together. they're going to say he's a wannabe cop. we've heard that in opening statement, that he took the law into his own hands, that he's a vigilante, that the police told him not to follow trayvon martin. nevertheless, he took it upon himself to follow martin. that he was the initial aggressor and set the

i agree with lisa. he did not address -- o'mara, the defense attorney d not address, one, the ibt inconsistencies throughout this trial. two, the fact that gun was in the back of george zimmerman. that's a major key fact. also, the inconsistencies and the common sense of, if george zimmerman was so afraid, why did he get out of his car? that was never answered by the defense. comparison, though, john guy on the prosecution side did an outstanding job. he was strong. he was deliberate. he was thoughtful in his comments. his theme was very clear. it was this is not a case of stand your ground. it's about stay in your car. >> paul, listening to this back and forth to everybody dissecting what we've watched today, just makes me wonder, what do we know about the jury deliberation process? what goes on behind those doors? how much conversation like this is taking place behind those doors? how often does the 100% get the 75% guy to 100%? >> i think each jury is different. just coincidentally, i have served on

>> well, i agree with lisa, i'm not that thrilled with the dna evidence. it would be much more important if dna evidence showed that there was, in fact, you know, contact or touching. here it's being used to show an admission of dna evidence. it's not quite as powerful. no one's brought that up yet. but i think to a juror sitting here listening to this, that evidence isn't going to be that important. it goes in the flow, helps with the other evidence that does have more weight and does carry more -- more impact with the jury in showing inconsistencies. and, again, i think that the prosecution really has to go after zimmerman not being honest. and you have to disregard everything that he says. because if you believe some of the things that zimmerman says, which is corroborated by some other witnesses, the prosecution's going to have a problem. so they really need to go to this jury and say've got to disregard zimmerman, give him no weight in the evidence that came out from his testimony and his sworn statements and his media appearances. >> john, before i r

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abc7 news reporter lisa amin gulezian is live with the latest. lisa? >> ama, a very large police presence right now on larkin. look over my right shoulder and you can see officers are gathering in the middle of the street. they are really focused on o farrell. that's where two people were shot. it happened after 10:00 p.m. police tell me two people were shooting at each other when they arrived. one officer got involved and fired at the men. we do know that one person is now dead and the other was shot in the leg. medics have already taken that person to the hospital. it is not clear if the officer actually hit anyone at all. detectives, plain clothed officers is and uniform police are out here. the department is not making any statements at this hour. a lot of streets as you mentioned are closed off right now. that's because one person who was shot managed to get about a half a block away on o farrell before collapsing. officers got here quickly because they were already nearby at jones and turf which is a half mile away and about 9:00 shots were fired

. >> also, lisa bloom is here, and lisa has been covering this for us throughout this trial. let's start with the legal question, if we can. we don't know. the jurors haven't told us, they haven't spoken. but what does your gut tell you about what happened tonight, lisa? >> based on the case that went into these jurors, this was really the only conclusion they could draw. i was asked a few days ago on this network about what i thought they were going to do. i said i thought it would have to be a defense verdict. i was disappointed that the evidence did not connect with what the prosecution was doing in this case. i raised a lot of questions throughout, taken some heat for that. but there was a lot of very strong evidence for the prosecution that did not get argued to the jury. a lot of cross-examination questions that were not asked by this prosecution. for those who aren't used to murder trials as i am, i've been doing for 12, 14 years, this -- it may not jump out at them the way it jumped out at me. the prosecution usually connects all the dots. makes strong statements in c

here's meteorologist lisa argen. how is it look out there, lisa? >> good morning. we have some cooler afternoon highs. a little below average. right now by the delta with the suggest west wind, 56 degrees. live more at 56. 53 los gatos and low 50s with not much in the way of fog in santa rosa. we are cooler this morning anywhere from five degrees of cooling down around san jose. four degrees by the delta and cooler by the san carlos airport and in hayward. this afternoon we will enjoy another mild afternoon with sunshine inland. numbers in the upper 70s to low 80s. it will be partly sunny to mostly cloudy at our coast with mid-and upper 50s. around the bay you will notice a few clouds, but otherwise a nice mild afternoon with upper 60s to near 70 in oakland today. the numbers come up just modestly tomorrow into the early part of next week. that will bring us back to a few 90ths inland. i'll have the details in a few minutes. matt. >>> thanks, lisa. developing news in san francisco. five homes have sustained water damage following a water main break. happened around

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>> well, i think that lisa is correct. they're going to have a difficult time in making a determination as to who is screaming. the defense wants this to be a reasonable doubt in the jurors' minds that can lead to an acquittal. obviously, there is a lot of information from these witnesses that the jury can weigh and make a decision on what import, how much weight they want to give that evidence, and how it connects into everything else in the case. but on the bottom line is yeah, they're going to be -- there is going to be some confusion there, and some debate back in that jury room as to who was actually doing the screaming. it's not a minor point that the screaming stopped when the shot rang out that really goes to corroborate the prosecution's argument that the screaming is coming from trayvon martin. >> i want my legal panel to stay with me there is a lot more to talk about. coming up, it's key to george zimmerman's self-defense claim. he says trayvon martin reached for his gun. >> he reached for it, but he reached --

lisa bloom, that was not the best thing.ad to deal with an extraordinarily -- the prosecution had to deal with an extraordinarily high burden, right, to prove. in stand your ground states, it's an even higher burden. mark o'mara had an interesting comment post-trial. he said he didn't want to go through the stand your ground pretrial hearing because that would have shown his defense. that would have previewed his strategy to the state. i thought that was a really interesting gamble and strategy on his part. >> yeah, although he could have won the whole case at that hearing and there wouldn't have been a trial. he knew he wasn't going to win that hearing. this was not a stand your ground case. stand your ground means if you're assaulted and you have the opportunity to escape, you don't have to try to escape in stand your ground states. otherwise you have to before you try to take a life. zimmerman's story is he was pinned down, being attacked. stand your ground didn't really apply. that's why mark o'mara didn't argue with it.

lisa, paul, tad, karen are all staying with us. coming up, the jury's been instructed on the law and now they have the case. let's get into the what may sway them as they deliberate the fate of george zimmerman. later to the role race may play in the jury's decision. this is "hardball," the place for politics. pores just by washing your face? [ female announcer ] neutrogena® pore refining cleanser. alpha-hydroxy and exfoliating beads work to clean and tighten pores so they can look half their size. pores...shrink 'em down to size! [ female announcer ] pore refining cleanser. neutrogena.® [ female announcer ] pore refining cleanser. i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh...no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico.

lisa, you've been listening in here. hour long hearing on this motion of whether to admit this animation. are you surprised at how difficult this and how long this hearing is taking place? >> well, courts don't operate on tv time, they operate on their own time. they are going to go on as long as necessary to get to the issue. they haven't even shown the animation yet. i think they are just on the verge of showing it. mark o'marra for the defense is showing this shows the positioning of the bodies and bullet trajectory a and aid the jury so the animation should come in. >> and if -- it's taken an hour and they have not ate shown the animation in question and the judge hasn't seen it? >> that's right. what mark o'mara has done is wthis expert is show how he has put it together because it's technically valid according to the defense. how he did the measurements and the technical equipment he used and how similar animations have been admitted in many courts and he has testified that in many courts especially in california w

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>> lisa, let's listen to dr.maio as he gave testimony earlier about the actual shooting incident as it occurred. let's take a listen. >> there was a distribution measuring 2 inches by 2 inches, and a certain density in these tattoo marks. and this indicated that the gun was not against the skin, it was not a half-inch away, it was more than an inch, and based upon the concentration of the marks and the size of the pattern, it's my opinion that the mu sdplrzzle of the gun in case was 2 to 4 inches away from the skin. so the barrel of the gun was against the clothing, the muzzle of the gun was against the clothing, but the clothing itself had to be 2 to 4 inches away from the body. >> now, lisa, the prosecution challenged that and suggested that it's possible that the gun could have been much further than 4 inches away. >> yes, that is correct. and the prosecution made a small point of this. i might have made a larger point, that these were baggy sweatshirts that trayvon martin was wearing. he was wearing two of th

we're rejoined by our panel, lisa bloom, tad nelson and karen desoto.ing that surprised me today was the lack of argument by either side, differentiating in their closings between second degree murder and manslaughter. i really think that's an important part of the case, and yet both seemed to stay away from it. what what's your read on that? >> i wanted to hear more on those differentiations. obviously the issue with the second degree murder is the intent. but beyond that, i think the bigger issue is the self-defense. and i really wish both parties had spent more time ar particular rating why the self-defense is successful or why it fails. i brief that's the real legal issue. and that's what i brief the jury is in that room now trying to discuss and trying to figure out whether or not there's a real self-defense and where that failure or success fits in between those two charges. >> tad nelson, i think a difficult aspect for the prosecution's case is that evil intention. in meeting the requirement and that's why they spent so much time as you know on t

abc7 news reporter lisa amin gulezian is live with the latest. lisa? a very large police presence right now on larkin. look over my right shoulder and you can see officers are gathering in the middle of the street. they are really focused on o farrell. that's where two people were shot. it happened after 10:00 p.m. police tell me two people were shooting at each other when they arrived. one officer got involved and fired at the men. we do know that one person is now dead and the other was shot in the leg. medics have already taken that person to the hospital. it is not clear if the officer actually hit anyone at all. detectives, plain clothed officers is and uniform police are out here. the department is not making any statements at this hour. a lot of streets as you mentioned are closed off right now. that's because one person who was shot managed to get about a half a block away on o farrecollapsing. collapsing. officers got here quickly because they were already nearby at jones and turf which is a half mile away and about 9:00 shots were fired there

lisa bloom said that. faith, good day or bad day for who?this was a very good day for the prosecution. they had to put in the statements. this means that zimmerman probably will not take the witness stand, but they highlighted inconsistencies that i think they have to do in order to get a conviction. >> lisa, good day, bad day? >> best day for the prosecution so far, because we're getting to george zimmerman's story of exactly what happened, and the inconsistencies in that story, some of which really sound like intentional fabrications. >> marcia clark, good day or bad day for who? >> good day for the prosecution, i have to say. here is the thing, reverend. all of the inconsistencies are consistently pointing. they're the kind of inconsistencies that always seem to go in favor of george zimmerman's innocence. so the extent he has fabricated, it's always to paint himself in the innocent light. and that to me shows a guilty conscience. >> john burris, good day or bad day for who? >> i think it's the best day for the prosecution that they've ha

kira. >> lisa, thank you. new this morning crews have contained a brush fire that contained three acres in pittsburgh. the fire broke out just befored:00 last night near john henry johnson parkway near fire station 87. it's the same station that was closed last month because of budget cuts. crews were able to get the fire under control in about half an hour. >>> a former police officer who pepper sprayed students at a uc davis protest is now seeking payment from the state. he was fired for his actions, but now he's filed a worker's compensation claim. abc7 news capitol corresponden nannette miranda has the story. >> john drew worldwide criticism in 2011 for dousing peacefully sitting nonstraytors in pepper stray and now wants worker compensation for psychiatric injury. he received death threats after the video went viral. he was fired a year ago after an investigation found his action was unwarranted. >> i think it's wrong what he's trying to do. >> he and lee were one of the protesters pepper sprayed. he and

>> lisa bloom, if there was blood on trayvon martin's hands, this would be such a different case. >> true, actually, i think it is a weak point for the prosecution because george zimmerman was immediately taken into custody and photographed and trayvon martin's remains were left there for several hours. and i think it is clearly established in this case that the collection matters were poor. the fingernails were scraped with the same implement. some of it degraded. i mean, there is really no question about that. the absence of evidence is not evidence. so i didn't think the prosecution did particularly well on that score. >> but no trace of blood? no trace of dna? and the rain washing it away? that is the weakest excuse and argument. it is just not believable. george zimmerman did not sustain the beating he claims he sustained at the hands of trayvon martin. >> well, how did he get the injuries? he didn't get punched in the face -- >> he may have. >> if we're going to concede that he got punched in the face, then why are we taking so much time talking about trayvon martin's hands? de

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lisa, let's start with you. i have a short question and a longer one. short question based on what we just heard is why did the judge rule there that the question could not be asked about what the next injury might have been to mr. zimmerman? >> because it's too speculative. i mean, what something might have been, could have, should have, would have, we don't generally get into that in a court of law. this is an expert. sometimes experts can do that. i think it's too speculative. >> so that sort of violates some of the boundaries that have been set. obviously, we know that lawyers know that. tell us what you think was the strategy in trying to ask that question. what's the next injury to mr. zimmerman? >> because the defense is trying to show that these injuries were not necessarily life threatening, and mark o'mara said that on cross-examination, essentially saying we never said that, we never said life threatening. the defense wants the jury to put it all together, that he was on the ground, he was getting his head pounded, perhaps only once or twice,

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and lisa bloom, let me say this judge carter, i stipulate to the court that lisa has been telling me all along the prosecution should have been stronger. so we stipulate that, lisa, before i let you beat me up on the beginning of this show. i stipulate that. now, let me show you two soundtracks, bites that come from the interview of the juror, and i want your reaction. this is the morning as it played juror b29. i want you to, as she talks about the deliberations. >> tell us more about the emotion during those nine hours, from the initial vote of murder second degree to not guilty. what was going on in your mind, your heart? >> i was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. oh, i was. i fought to the end. >> did you feel a little -- for lack of a better word, bullied in the deliberations? >> i don't know if i was bullied. i trust god that i wasn't bullied. >> do you feel your voice was heard? >> my voice was heard. i was the loudest. yeah. that's for sure. >> i was the loudest, she said, lisa. then she almost made it a hung jury she said. watch this. >> and you said earli

we continue with our panel, lisa bloom, alex ferrer and joseph hanes davis. yesterday the judge reminded -- but asked whether he would like to, don west cut in. mr. zimmerman, have you made a decision to whether or not you want to testify in this case. >> no, not at this time. >> okay. and when is it -- how long do you think you need before you make that decision? >> your honor, may have we have an opportunity to speak? the case hasn't concluded yet. >> i understand that i asked mr. zimmerman if he needed more time, and if he does, i will afford it to him. mr. zimmerman, how much more time do you think you'll need to discuss it with your attorneys? >> i assume it would depend on how long the recesses are, your honor. at the end of the day if? >> if your attorneys have finished with two winces before the end of the day, do you think you would know then? >> well, on mr. zimmerman's behalf -- >> i am asking your client questions. please, mr. west. >> i object to the court irquestion of mr. zimmerman about his decision whether or not to testify at this -- >> your

kristin, carolyn. >> thank you, lisa. our coverage continues in just two minutes. >> up next we hear from some of the hundreds of passengers scrambling to rebook flights now. >> and a peninsula woman watches while the flight crashes. why this disaster is bringing >> welcome back, everyone. continuing with our coverage of asiana flight 214, we want to take a moment to show you the runway at sfo where that flight crashed and how the wreckage was spread. the asiana plane came in on runway 2-8 left. you can see the landing gear and tail pieces lying at the end of the runway there. the nose gear is a little further up. the plane itself coming to rest much further up on the west side of the runway. the plane involved in this accident is a boeing 777-200. it's fairly knew. it was delivered about seven years ago. it's first flight was back in 2006. this particular plane seats a maximum of 310 passengers in economy and business class. the boeing 777 line is considered to be a very save airline. there's been only one major accident

let's bring back in our panel and i want to go to nbc legal analyst lisa bloom. you know, con rafting the jean tell testimony which we just talked about and the testimony today, the one thing lisa, that does seem to be consistent is this story of pursuit. the story that rachel jeantel said that essentially george zimmerman was sewering tray voen and the testimony today where he tried to explain he was walking back to his car but the detective saying where was he hiding? and serino pressing him on were you not going after this young man. how did that strike you? >> i want to make a quick comment about rachel jeantel. i've been watching the entire trial. i haven't seen a lot of the negative comments that people are referring to about her, thank goodness i guess. i can say she was dressed appropriately for kourth on both days if that's one of the negative comments about her, that's silly. in the context of a trial, asking tough questions, cross-examining a witness is what defense attorneys do. that's what they did with rachel jeantel, what they're doing with george