abramowitz. she is expert at ig. i'm sorry, lisa, it is a -50%.look at the 10 year piece down 19%. >> is shocking. the fact we have not seen wholesale estimates from some of these portfolios is notable and actually, here is the issue: at the core, we have not seen corporate breakdown. the corporate fundamentals are still pretty good. at what point do people start selling off that as well, or does that become a haven? the s&p is on the brink of a bear market. we are 2% away. we are in a bear market for s&p. credit has not broken down the same way. this is the reason people think the federal reserve will not step in. if you don't have that credit impulse, if companies don't need to refinance, then what is going to cause the fed to say my goodness, we need to back away? nothing. that is the reason people are getting so bearish on stocks. tom: if we can't do it, it is fine, but at 5:00 a.m., over on the equity side, ok, we are above 30, and everyone was above 30, but not above 40. it is elevated, but as lisa said, it is not that catharsis this morning