lisa bernard has our story. >> the train involved in the accident rolled out of here. ntsb investigators are trying to figure out what caused it to plow into two worker workers chg the tracks saturday killing both of them. the train was running in automatic mode. bart says there was an experienced operator at the controls. the ntsb will look at the issue and scrutinize the equipment. >> we do a thorough mechanical smiks of the train inside and out, wheels, brakes, the third rail, all those things. >> investigators spent four hours sunday on the tracks between two suburban train stops and they'll likely spend the next four to ten days collecting evidence. earlier flowers and a card marked the spot where bart said an employee and a contractor were looking at a reported dip in the tracks when the train hit them. investigators say they will look at the video taken from the camera facing into the cab of the train. they will look for documents photos and sketches. they already have transmissions from the operator of the train at the moment of impact. >> rating at c-53 and c-

lisa bernard on this strike of the fifth largest transportation system. lisa. >> hi john. commuters got creative here in the bay area. it wasn't as bad as they may have feared. they road the ferries, road the buses. transportation leaders said many compost off-peak hours to travel which was a good idea. but certainly the roads and especially the bridges here in the bay area had many more cars than usual today. we saw 1500 more cars on the bay bridge than a week ago this morning. 2,000 more of them used the carm carpool lanes on the bay bridge. commuters are getting frustrated that the strike has gone on and the two sides cannot reach a compromise. >> frustrating. i think the time it took them to even get this far was ridiculous. and we're just stuck. >> just makes it -- everybody has responsibilities and outside of work they have their own lives, and to have two and a half hours to get in and two and a half hours to get home it puts a lot of stress on individuals. >> and bay area leaders called this a true regional transportation emergency. that could cost this reerch up t

lisa bernard is there. i think we cleared up our audio issues.we were just talking about how frustrating a di this must have been for everyone who is using that system. how are things going? i guess so far we're coming up on the afternoon rush. >> yes, the afternoon rush at the golden gate bridge is going so smoothly. they had to get creator and i spoke to transportation leaders in the bay area who said that the buses and ferries were completely full today. a lot of commuters went to work at off-peak hours. but clearly many got into their cars instead of the trains. and many bay area bridges were extra county today. the 9 the percent increase, and the bay bridge brought 13% more cars and clearly people are frustrated. they're also finding ways to get into strike as this needs to go in, and they're certainly frustrated with the en pass of bart and it's union. bart has an offer that gives 3% pay increases every year for the next four years, but the union said it will not call for a vote on that proposal. >> lisa bernard. boy, it is beautiful, the g

the story now from lisa bernard. >> reporter: the train involved in the accident rolled out of here, and ntsb investigators are trying to figure out what caused it to plow into two workers checking the tracks on saturday killing both of them. the train was running in automatic mode with a driver plus five others on board, and b.a.r.t. says there was an experienced operator at the controls. the mtsb will look at the employees involved and investigators will scrutinize the equipment. >> we do a thorough nchgs of the equipment, thorough mechanical inspection of every operation on the train itself inside and out, wheels, brakes, the third rail, all those things. >> investigators spent about four hours sunday on the tracks between two suburban train spots and lickly spend the next four to ten days collecting evidence. earlier flowers and a card mark the spot where b.a.r.t. said an employee and contractor were looking at a reported dip in the tracks when the train hit them. investigators will look at the individual co-taken from the camera facing into the cab of the train. they will ask b.

lisa bernard has this report. the train involved in the accident rolls out of here. and ntsb investigators are trying to figure out what caused it to plow into two workers checking the track saturday cig bolt of them. cig -- killing both of them. and bart says this was an experienced operator at the controls. the ntsb will look at the employees voferld involved ande investigators will scrutinize the equipment. >> we do a thorough inspection every operation of the train itself. inside and out. the wheels and brakes and the third rail and all of those things. >> the investigators spent four hours on sunday on the tracks between two suburban train stops. they were looking at a dip in the tracks when the train hit them. they will look at it video face from a camera facing into the cab the train. they will ask bart for photos and sketches they have the radio communication between the train and the transit system which captured audio at the moment of impact. train c-554 canceled let my know when you are ready to proceed ahead after your break. bartbart emergency, bart emer

lisa bernard joins us from san francisco. sa, this is a city where a lot of people depend on public transit. what is the latest you can tell us? >> the latest i can tell you is no progress with the negotiations. the bay bridge is one of the only way s to get into the city and a boat across the bay. the trains are not running. stations are locked. people have to find other way tos get in. yesterday morning commuters had to wake up early to get on ferries, bus, get into the car. this morning still the same case. we spoke to a woman who had to take a cab to get 10 miles to san francisco for her job as a nanny. she is essentially irritated, as are so many others, that the two sides cannot yet reach a compromise. >> people need to go to work. people couldn't go to work. i saw the traffic. they can't move, the cars, across to the top of the other one. it doesn't make sense. >> commuters and business owners are among those with no patience for the strike. it is costing them money. they are struggling to understand what the two sides

the strike goes on. >> lisa bernard live in san francisco. thank you. >>> a tip led police to two killers who walked from a florida prison weeks ago. officers say that tip came from an acquaintance. inside a room in a panama city motel, police found joseph jenkins and charles walker. this cell phone video shows s.w.a.t. teams bursting into that motel room. both men are back behind bars following this morning's court appearance and are held without bond. al jazeera's robert ray is at that motel in panama city where the fugitives were caught. robert. >> reporter: jonathan, exactly. the fugitives caught right behind me in this hotel, the coconut grove motor inn in panama city. now police are looking for accomplices to the situation of forged doupts and the escape from prison, and it's been a long few days for authorities as they search for these men. for five days florida authorities were on a manhunt investigating and searching for convicted killers joseph jenkins and charles walker. on sunday we learned that a tip led police to the fugitives.

lisa bernard has the details. >> reporter: most computers are pretty frustrated this morning that bartnd its unions couldn't find a compromise. many of the people are on this bridge in bumper to bumper traffic. others are taking ferries and buses or working from home if possible. computers this morning say simply they are fed up. and of course it is not just bart riders who are impacted by this strike. many others who compute by car every day now have to share the road with many more people, making for a much longer commute to and from work today. still at odds are the two sides over pay and benefits and work rules. they were very close on the economic points. bart has offered a 3% pay increase every year for the next four years, but what the two sides could not agree on are these work rules, rules such as bart's desire to change a policy where a worker could work four days in a row, for example, then call in six and then on the sixth day get overtime pay. bart also wants to update the technology to this system. the workers say that would take too much power away from them. it's big ec

. >> lisa bernard in san francisco, and if a picture is worth 1,000 words, that's about a million words behind you. thank you very much. >> here's a question. do you know what your credit score is? something that most of us don't think when until it's too late, trying to buy a home or a car. how a simple oversight can have really bad consequences. >> like you wouldn't believe, dell. credit scores are very fragile. the slightest financial hiccup can lower your score. even up paid parking tickets or overdue library books. about two years ago, omar would park his car here every thursday when he would play basketball with his friends. he said that the traffic cops were brutal when it came to the meters. >> if my time expired at 7 p.m., and at 7:01 he would write me a ticket. and it was always the same guy. >> same guy or not, omar racked up $1,000 in citations. one of the problems, having a crooked car registration sticker. omar had had enough. >> i thought the worst case scenario, i would have to register my car in dc, which i wasn't planning on doing at that home. and i was wrong. >> repo

lisa bernard joins us live from walnut creek, california. is there any progress on the investigation into exactly what happened, how this happened? >> reporter: well, richelle, the ntsb is now sending investigators here to look at the safety issues, and b.a.r.t. is going to investigate as well. we just came from the scene of the accident. there is a car there. there are flowers talking about a b.a.r.t. employee and a contractor who were killed on the tracks. the card refers to them as two great trackmen. the train is still there as well a few hundred yards away from where the two men were killed. it happened between two suburban b.a.r.t. stations. the transition agency says two employees were hit and killed by a b.a.r.t. train as they checked out a report of a dip in the rails. >> i have routing at c-53, 54 canceled. let me know when you're ready to proceed ahead after your break. >> b.a.r.t. emergency, b.a.r.t. emergency. >> b.a.r.t. emergency. go ahead. >> central, train 963. we just struck some individuals at approximately 15.2 on the c-1

lisa bernard has more details. >> reporter: most commuters are pretty frustrating this morning that bart and its unions could don't reach a compromise. many of the 400,000 people are instead on this bridge in bumper to bumper traffic. others are taking ferries or buses, or working from home. it's not just bart riders who are impacted. many others who commute by car every day now have to share the road with many more people, making a much longer commute to and from work. they were very close on the economic points. bart has offered a 3% pay increase every year for the next four years. but what the two sides could not agree on are these work rules, rules such as bart's desire to change a policy, where a worker could work four days in a row, for example, then call in sick, and on the sixth day get overtime pay. they also want to update the system. the workers say that would take too much power away from them. it's big economic impact on the bay area as well when we saw in july when there was a four-day strike it cost this region $73 million a day. and this strike could last longer and cost

. >> lisa bernard, thank you. >>> j.p. morgan chase could pay a record fine. $9 billion to the federal government and $4 billion to struggling homeowners. bank still faces a criminal investigation. now live from washington, d.c, financial reporter from reuters. is this a good outcome for both employees here? >> it is in one sense for the justice department and the u.s. government, they get a huge figure, it is the largest number they have ever entered into for one company and j.p. morgan, a huge liability they faced but the government has faced a lot of criticism for not going after that many individuals who were potentially responsible for conduct that fueled the financial crisis and the settlement is not likely to include any charges against individuals. so they may still face that criticism. for j.p. morgan it still leaves them open to criminal liability. so that is obviously not the ideal situation for j.p. morgan. >> and j.p. morgan has resisted this deal for a long time so why the change? >> they didn't -- this was r

del. >> lisa bernard. he lines will start forming behind one lisa, thank you very much. >> why are they so fed up? before this year's two walkouts, bay area transit workers went on strike three times. in 1976, they went on strike. in 1979, they went out for 90 days. bart management calmed it a strike, the unions saying it was a lockout. in 1997, they went on strike again for another eight days. >> secretary of state john kerry is in london for the so-called friends of syria meeting. he is joined by arab and western counter parts from 10 other countries. the aim is to make sure a peace conference in geneva stays on track. the u.s. is pushing for another round of talks to bring the actors from the war into the table. all the players including bashar al assad and others are not there. bashar al assad said. >> aljazeera's phil ittner is in london. the fact that the main players don't be willing to sit down with each other would seem to be a major impediment, wouldn't you say? >> absolutely, del. this is going t

our lisa bernard is live from san fan. san francisco.ny new details on hu how this accident happened. >> they are examining the tracks and the train right now. they have been at it for a couple of hours. they tell us they'll give us an update shortly on what they may have found so far. they plan to be here the lead investigator tells us for four to ten days. and the lead investigators tells us he expects to interview members of the california agency that takes care of work place safety. also the california public utilities commission. he hopes to speak to the driver of the train and several other people affiliated with bart who were on the train at the time of the accident. in terms of staffing and experience, this is what they want to look at and this is where the strike could play a role. the ntsb will consider the training, and the experience of the train operators as well as of the track workers. and we have seen cards that have been left here at the scene, one card refers to those workers as "two great trackmen." flowers mark the sp

our lisa bernard is in san francisco tonight. what's the latest on the talks? >> well john there was a glimmer of hope late this afternoon as bart's unions announced they had a so-called riders first plan that would end the strike and get trains running again tonight. but bart managers quickly rejected the plan saying there was nothing new here. the unions had said they would accept the wages, health care and pension plan that bart had offered, but then they said, they wrote also insist that a piece of the contract go to arbitration. and bart says they are not willing to do a piece of the contract. only the entire contract would they be willing to have go to arbitration. >> in response to the union leader's statement tonight bart would welcome an end to the strike. union leaders letter though is splip a repeat of the same -- simply a repeat of the same u unsebl offer they made yesterday. a strike is a serious and regrettable action that affects hundreds of thousands of people. bart wants to negotiate and put an end to this strike but not until union leaders are

lisa bernard joins us live. what specifically were unions and management at odds about? >> it was pay, benefits and work rules. after about 30 hours of negotiations, both sides walked away from the bargaining table without an agreement. bart had offered a 3% pay raise per year for the next four years to these workers who make up to $70,000 a year, but they were still unable to reach an agreement, although close on the economics, the work rules were still a hold up. when the talks broke down, both sides publicly attacked each other. >> does san francisco have a back up plan for the commuters? >> they are scrambling. where we are here is where we expect most of the 400,000 people who ride bart to work each day to end up, so car pooling is encouraged. they're going to keep the car pool lanes open all day. bart is running 200 shuttle buses from oakland into san francisco, and we also have an a.c. transit bus system. governor brown stepped in and called for a cooling off period to keep those buses running, because workers there were threatening to strike, as well. there's als

lisa. happening now, bart's unions and management should get together anytime now to begin a last-minute round of talks aimed at diverting a strike which is set for midnight tonight. abc7 news reporter cornell bernardssion set to check off. cornell, have you seen the parties arriving yet for these crucial negotiation? >> carolyn, i have seen about three union members show up right now. in their defense, it was a very late night last night. but the pressure is on, that midnight strike deadline is looming. and still there is no deal. talks broke off late last night. the general manager grace joined the negotiations again, bringing both sides together where we are told some progress was made. bart riders are feeling very anxious about what is going on here. they urge both sides to reach an agreement. >> everybody thinks things are in terms of being very acrimonyious. it's not that way at all. everybody talks with a great deal of respect for each other. >> i think the bart thing is just a reflection of what is happening in the government. i mean, it seems to be the thing to just disagree and see how long we can disagree. >> i would tell them to think about it before they do it, how it will affect the p