lisa brennan-jobs paints what it was like to grow up. a man who happens to be a great giant for the rest of us. she joins me in new york and told me writing this book went a long way in resolving this relationship. this is a cute title, "small fry." it conjures something little, something sweet. a little bit of a footsteps of a giant. what are you trying to say with this book. >> a story of a girl growing up in silicon valley against the backdrop of a complicated family. starts when i am really young and goes to when i go away to college and i guess the title is kind of a term of endearment and also kind of means insignificant. >> interesting. clearly those are the two currents -- >> right. >> that seem to be in your life. let's start from the beginning. why did your father not want to claim you from the beginning or admit publicly. >> i don't know. that doesn't mean i know all the answers. i examine the complications and shed light on them and explore them from the child's perspective and the adult perspective. but i don't necessarily k

lisa. >> those who have seen the 2015 film steve jobs know job daughter, lisa brennan jobs, as a young girlwho appeared dismissive. >> you knew what i was going through and you dn't do ything about it. >> steve jobs was 23 when he met his oldestaughter daysfter she was born to his former girlfriend chris ann brennan. brennan-jobs said her father help name her but for years and despite a dna test proving he was her dad, he denied that. later he repeatedly refused to t confirm tha an early version of anlepple computer cald lisa was named after her. >> nothing was named after anybody. it's a coincidence. >> in her new memoir "small fry" brennan-jobs shares her perspective toife with a father who could be cruel to moments of shared joy on the piano or roller skates. she describes a largely unstable childhood. at 14 she moved in with her father and growing mily, though he had one condition. she could not see her mother for six months. brennan-jobs describ that time as lonely but sprinkled with ing,nts of joy and belo painting a very complicated picture of her relationship with man she just calle