we have yourself, lisa bullock. he's a program director at the vall, by discussion club, and in beijing we cross andy mock. he is a senior research fellow at the center for china and globalization. i generally cross off roles in the fact that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciate, i want to ask all 3 of you question. the same question right off the bat here, mitchell, go to you 1st here. oh it's, you know, it's widely described as a, a global recession is afoot here. but depending on who you ask, it's always kind of politicize blame game and pointing fingers. all 3 of you look at this professionally. so what is driving this global downturn go ahead, mich. oh, thanks peter. this is it. it's not that complex a situation. and, you know, people are saying that we might be headed for a economic recession, but we're actually in an economic recession, as you know, the metric that there, that is being used is an outdated, backward looking metric. so we are in an economic recession and it can get m

we have yourself, lisa bullock. he's a program director at the vall, by discussion club, and in beijing we cross andy mock. he is a senior research fellow at the center for china and globalization general and cross up rules and effect. that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciate, i want to ask all 3 of you question. the same question right off the bat here, mitchell, go to you 1st here. oh it's, you know, it's widely described as a, a global recession is afoot here. but depending on who you ask, it's always kind of politicize blame game and pointing fingers. all 3 of you look at this professionally. so what is driving this global downturn go ahead, mich. all, thanks peter. this is it, it's not that complex a situation. and, you know, people are saying that we might be headed for a economic recession, but we're actually in an economic recession, as you know, the metric that there, that is being used is an outdated, backward looking metric. so we are in an economic recession and it can get mu