appeal, november 14-161, and it is lisa cacavvo and friedemann, thomma on 3627-22nd street for imposition of penalty for the work done without the permit. and we will hear from the appellant? >> you have seven minutes to present your case to the board. good evening. ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for giving me time to present my case. we have been imposed a penalty for the work done without a permit. my name is freidemannand, last name is thomma and i am the co-owner with my wife lisa caccovo on the property, and we have purchased the property on november 1, 2011. and soon after we moved in, we anonymous complaint was placed for the city and a city inspector came to inspect the property and informed us that it was a legal unit back at the end of the property, behind the garage. and we were assessed a penalty in an amount nine times that is usually assessed for the work permits. and we like to appeal that penalty due to the fact that the work that was done in the inlaw units was done prior to us owning the property, and approximately, around 2009. we don't have the specific dates, bec