some of talk more about this now with lisa collins who is standing by washington she is a fellow at the center for strategic and international studies and an expert on korea thank you so much for joining us this evening. thank you for having me here in the least if you followed the summit closely this joint statement has been criticized as being too light on detail what do you think. so i would agree with stayman i do believe the four points that were mentioned in the joint statement one. of the korean peninsula one on u.s. and north korea forming a new relationship one on finding the remains of old prisoners of war in north korea and repatriating them to the united states and another talking about other significant options i think that these are things that have been mentioned before in previous declarations and previous agreements that we've had with the north koreans but it's lacking in some specificity especially when we talk about denuclearization and verification of the dismantlement of north korea's nuclear weapons program there's no mention of how that process would have been ho

sarah: le' talk more about this with lisa collins who is standing by in washington. e is a fellow at the center for strategic studies and an expert on korea. thank you so much for joining us this evening. lisa, you follow tummit osely. this joint statement has been criticized as being too light on detail. what do you think? lisa: i would agree with that statement. i do believe that the four points that were mentioned in the joint statement, one on denuclearizatition o of the korn penininsula, one on u.s. and noh korea forming a new relationship, one on releasing old prisonerers of war andd repatriating them to the united states, and d another tatalking ababout other significant optpt. i think that these are things that haveen entioned bebere in pdecls ationsns and agreements that we have had with the north kororns, but it is lacking g in specificity, especicially when we talk aboutt denuclearization and verificacation of the dismantlemement of north korea's nuclear weweapons program. there isis no real mentition ofw that would happen, how long would take and would be

tt may be necessary for negotiations to continue >> tracie potts, thank you >>> let's bring in lisa collinsair at the center for strategic and international studies. thank you for joining us what do you believe is next for the u.s. and north korea >> i think following up with this, there will be continuing talks between north korea and the united states. hopefully there will be more clarity on what the two countries mean by denuclearization of the korean peninsula. there's been a lot of commentary already about how the four points in the joint statement sterday we lt light on details, particularly thard to any verification process that would be necessary for north korea to dismantle its nuclear weapons program. i think first and foremost the united states should ask for a list, a declaration from north korea that lists all of its nuclear its nuclear weapons facilities, the technology, the scientists volved, also any ballistic iles and launch vehicles that are a part of the program i think there's a lot to be covered in the next few months and then trump has said that he may invite the north

they can try to swing a couple of republican senators like lisa murkowski. susan collins of maine. but they might loseouple because some democrats are in tough reelection fights in states trump won big andhey might lose them. so there are not a lot of good options >> i think we need to really think about the -- what the eademocratic partydership is doing.

the president also met with judiciary chairman chuck grassley, lisa murkowski and lisa collins who are watched closely as the white house vets supreme court nominees. >> the white house claims it cannot keep the country safe unless a federal judge reverses its order requiring the government to quickly reunify families separated at the border. the ruling endangers national security. the administration's hard-line immigration policy is not deterring everyone. cnn's nick valencia was on a ride along with customs as they caught a group of immigrants crossing the rio grande. >> after meet with the leaders of honduras, guatemala and el salvador, pence delivered a clear message. >> among this flood of illegal migrants are human traffickers and violent gang members like ms-13. but most are making the journey seeking economic opportunity. driven by the misguided belief that they can ignore the laws of the united states and enter our nation without consequences. i say with great respect to the presidents gathered here, this exodus must end. >> as of monday, there are 2,047 separated, unaccompani

patty thank you and for more on this we can speak to lisa collins who is fellow of the korea chair program at the center for strategic and international studies in washington madame thank you so much for joining us here now because there are lots of questions for you but let's just follow on from what i was talking to patty there about the fact that the president seems to have unilaterally sort of the cited in a news conference that he's going to cancel these military drills the joint ones with south korea what do you make of that statement and the fact that no one of the pentagon seem to know. well it's extraordinary in a lot of ways this is a demand that the north koreans have made for decades that they made this demand during the six party talks during the one nine hundred ninety four agreed framework the fact that this was a concession that was given very easily up front in the negotiations process is very stunning to a lot of korea watchers i think i also believe that the fact that the president called them war games is quite surprising they are military exercises that are needed for

is it possible that lisa collins -- susan collins then lisa murkowski get together with doug jones and mansion and say -- manchin and say we do not have a more regular order in the senate? right now, the senate to is -- judiciary is voting for a build myself that i like that would protect smaller. it would not totally protect mother, but it would go to a review process if the president tries to fire -- protect robert mueller, but it would go to review process of the president tries to fire the special counsel. 4 comes out to the one, republicans vote for it along with democrats. the majority leader says i'm not going to bring it to the floor. it's a two to one vote in the committee. you should bring into the floor and let people amended and see if you can get 60 votes on the floor. it's a little astonishing just to say, i'm not bringing it to the floor. if the president is elected, he can veto it. it's not like we are away his powers on legislation. i think there's a pretty big feeling among younger members especially in the house and the senate that the system is really broken. and it

wly -- accomplished, we are getting perspective from lisa collins. s is with us jalinoosit -- shahab is with us from credit suisse. lisa, i want to go to the heart of the matter, which is korea has to give up something, anything. is it simply about nuclear weapons and their capability? is there any negotiating stock they can give up besides weapons? the issue ofs human rights, which came up during the press conference with president trump. he raised the issue with kim jong-un, but it is not clear there was any substantive discussion about human rights. it is important around the world for people to see the u.s. president talking about the human rights issues because it is an important thing, and talking about the prison camps and the 120,000 people who are still held in gulags in north korea is important as well. tom: i love the double adverbs "relatively briefly." you know that will get it done in terms of clarity. the clarity is a rules-based order, including south korea, china, japan, russia as well. called the shanghai cooperative. with the rules-

by that time there might be enough pressure on republican senator susan collins of maine and lisa murkowski to vote against a judge that would overturn roe versus wade. they're the only two pro-choice republican senators. so if jeff flake does not back down from what he said he would do to block trump judges before he knew that one of the judges he would have to block would be a supreme court justice, then jeff flake could create a dynamic situation on the senate floor where anything could happen. the democrats might be able to hold all of the democrats then in opposition to a trump supreme court nomination. and then, on the senate floor, it would only take that one republican to kill the nomination. and if jeff flake is that one republican, he would then leave the united states senate with a very important place in history. leading off our discussion now, jill wine banks, neera tanden, and ron klain, former chief counsel to the senate judiciary committee and an obama administration official. he has worked on several senate confirmations of supreme court justices in his senate staff positio

you have to hope that whomever trump nominates is so objectionable, that lisa or susan collins, who are pro-choice republican women, that they might oppose this nominee, even though both of them voted for neal gorsuch. this is a huge uphill battle for them. it is going to be bitter and hard fought because the stakes are so high for both parties. both parties will be galvanized by this fight. >> we have a lot more to discuss. stick around. >>> when we come back there's one democrat that president trump likes so much he asked her twice to join the gop. she's an example of the problem democrats are going have to fight this battle. that's next. say goodbye to the one-size-fits-all family unlimited plan. starting now, everyone gets the plan they want, without paying for things they don't want. mom gets the unlimited she needs, dad gets the unlimited he needs, the kids get the unlimited they need. it's big news from verizon. (shoes squeaking) and you could save some money. (scattered applause) wow. all this for us? yeah, and every other family in america. i think the kowalskis are next. (vo)

and the question is, i guess, can democrats peel off susan collins and lisa murkowski who are nominallyot very likely. >> and do you think that if the democrats raise hell, as sang ella wants them to, that helps or hurts whatever chance they have in getting susan collins and lisa murkowski to come to their side. >> the goal is to get people who are constituents who feel disenfranchised and vote to in align with them and if they see a weak spine, that is not to their benefit. but in terms of being consistent in hypocrisy we're talking about the importance of mid-term elections and a statement and example used about the russia collusion to wrap things up from doj because you don't want anything to infringe on that and so if it is important to the justice department it should be consistent with the supreme court justice so i have a difficult time hearing people talk about the idea you could be dismissive of an election cycle whether it is presidential or midterm where it is a point of contention as to why that particular investigation should go away until later. >> do you think that this i

and we don't know exactly how far susan collins and lisa murkowski are willing to go on the issue of abortion. and right now that is all of the talk. that is what everybody is talking about because it is believed to be the first thing that could go if this court swings dramatically to the right. so i think we really don't know how they're going to move their weight around in the senate with it so narrowly divided, every senator on the republican side has a lot of power to kind of affect -- maybe not the timing but the tenure of the debate about the justice. >> with 25 candidates, there are some on there who are conservative, young, and that the president thinks can get through the litmus test of susan collins and senator lisa murkowski for blowing up his nomination. he doesn't want that to happen. >> and is there anything realistically you think the democrats could do to prevent a roll call vote on the floor of the united states senate until after the mid-term elections? >> i think obviously it is very hard. but i also feel that we've seen some extraordinary things happening in polit

to push hard on susan collins and lisa murkowski. a sign that the white house recognizes the importance of those senators, nbc news is reporting tonight that white house council don mcgahn reached out to susan collins and lisa murkowski to discuss the vacancy. the two confirmed the call to nbc news. and sarah sanders tweeted senators collins and murkowski met with donald trump tonight to discuss the future of the supreme court. she also says, quote, potus team also talked with more than a dozen other senators today as part of an outreach to get views and advice from both sides of the aisle. so we're still very early in the nomination process and the strategy of the two sides are still being worked out. one thing is certain. the people who may ultimately have the most power to influence who becomes the next nominee to the supreme court are the american people. as joe biden said today, the price to be paid for putting our values at risk must be clear now. joining us now christopher khang, now the chief council of demand justice, and als

it comes down to use and collins and lisa murkowski. they say they are pro-choice. if they vote for any person on trump's list, they are voting to end a woman's right to choose. donald trump has told us that. he said in the campaign if he got two votes on the supreme court, he would reverse roe versus wade and end a woman's right to choose. we have to put that in front of collins and murkowski. they have to be more worried about getting eelected than getting a primaried by a trumpite. that's what our forces have to bring to this fight. >> cheryl lynn. >> i'm not a politico. i concede i don't have all of the numbers. i don't want to put it down it these two senators. we're in a moment in which every senator has to confront himself. i understand it the power mitch mcconnell has. you heard him in the top of your segment. he said we will confirm president trump's nominee this fall. he hadn't looked at what the nominee is or what the qualifications are of that nominee. he's going to confirm. that's astonishing for the senate majority leader to say. president nixon advanc

i would say that is a real possibility and that is why i'm looking to people like susan collins and lisaurkowski with only a 51 vote requirement to confirm the next supreme court justice to really look into their hearts and souls and do the right thing. i'm also looking to mitch mcconnell to do the right thing and for once to follow his own rule. it's so hypocritical but this is something that doesn't bother the republicans and the trump party at all. >> will the supreme court decision yesterday to uphold the third version of president trump's travel ban, do you think it will embolden him on the broader issue of immigration, which is so tough right now? >> trump is very much anti-immigration, especially black, brown and yellow people. so i have very little doubt that he's not even right now conferring or thinking on his own how he can use his pretty much unbridled executive power to issue further executive orders that would relate to immigration. i have little doubt that the supreme court handed him extraordinary powers which the supreme court didn't have to do, but it was a 5-4 decision

the two who folks are talking about is collins, murkowski, susan collins, lisa murkowski, both pro-choice, both sending signals that this may be different than last year's battle over neil gorsuch where they voted to confirm gorsuch. indicating maybe the issue of roe v. wade could be preeminent in their considerations on this. it's a big if. would they go to the lengths of voting no, joining with democrats trying to stop a trump pick? they've sent signals that have people talking about it. if you start at 50 for republicans and lose collins and murkowski, that's an ugly four but you're down to 48 for the republicans and then you would be short. remember, we're talking about democrats here, too. a lot of democrats running for reelection this year in states donald trump carried in 2016, some by giant margins. so manchin, west virginia. up for reelection, trump won by 42. heitkamp in north dakota, trump took it by 36. donnelly in indiana, trump took it by 20. donnelly, heitkamp, manchin, they voted for neil gorsuch last year, they're vasing voters in these states so if you had 48 and you got

susan collins and lisa murkowski and senator donnelly, senator man chin and senator heitkamp.said to unveil it before he leaves for a trip to europe. both parties bracing for a showdown. on this one they have a process. they have to understand the importance of reaching out. lisa murkowski, susan collins, two republicans worried about the swing vote with anthony kennedy gone. new restrictions on abortion could come into play. critical. with john mccain absent, if you lose a republican, you're going to lose a democratic vote, so you bring in three democrats that are likely to be your target of opportunity here. >> this is one of the big things the white house is hailed as doing smoothly last year. that was the nomination and confirmation of neil gorsuch who is a chief justice now. don mcgahn, the white house council, is having a meeting now while the president decides what the supreme court will look like for the next few decades. we were told short after we found out kennedy was retiring that they will move this quickly and now we're seeing how quickly they want this to go. a

you have to hope that whomever trump nominates is so objectionable, that lisa or susan collins, who are pro-choice republican women, that they might oppose this nominee,in' though both of them voted for neal gorsuch. this is a huge uphill battle for them. it is going to be bitter and hard fought because the stakes are so high for both parties. both parties will be gavelnized by this fight. >> we have a lot more to discuss. stick around. >>> when we come back there's one democrat that president trump likes so much he asked her twice to join the gop. she's an example of the problem zplts are going have to fight this battle. that's next. we're listening to what matters most to you. and we're committed to improving every ride. starting with features designed to make it easy for your driver to find you... taking the stress out of pickups. ♪ we're putting safety at the heart of everything we do... by making it easy to verify your car, and driver. uber has new leadership, a new vision, and is moving in a new direction... forward if you have moderate to severe or psoriatic arthritis, little thi

>> you have people like susan collins, lisa murkowski who have shown to be independent when it comes to women's rights and privacy rights. >> they voted for gorsuch. with roe v. wade on the table, and a conservative majority. maybe they may make a play. one, that might be political suicide. if they were to fore stall a vote and lose control of the senate they would be forever blamed. you would just be delaying a vote until after the election in, what, the hopes that you would take over the senate. >> that can make a difference. >> oh, yes. >> for the heariings and everything else. one thing that hasn't come out is the average time for hearings is 140 days. that's past the election. if you look at how long the hearings have taken before a vote and before confirmation process ends it is past the election time. >> that's custom, not by rule. >> that's correct. the public pressure and focusing on what matters to the people here, that's on our side. the other thing we have is some republicans that have shown some independence over time. then we have the right to ask questions and ask as m

they can try to swing a couple of republican senators like lisa murkowski. susan collins of mne.ut they might lose a couple because some democrats i aren tough reelection fights in states trump won big and they ht mi lose them. so there are not a lot of good iptions. hink we need to really think about the -- what the democrats party leadership doing. what is pelosi and schumer's job? that is to whip up votes to hi support ts. we need to remember that the discipline with which the republicans mucked up the system andre pnted the -- obama's last supreme court nominee, e' therthe playbook right there. >> right. >> the democrats, like you said, they have to have the stomach to do that, they have to have the will and they have to hear from average people that's what is expected. so much is at stake. r >> but tublicans are in the majority now, so realistically what can the democr datso? >> filibuster, roll call votes, slhe down t system. there's just a few milths u the midterm election, and the whole issue with the supreme court, so many things are at ake. abortion rights and the overt

mamp chin and bernie sanders and that when the pressure keeps up on the susan collins and lisa murkowski. robert: is nancy pelosi nervous? >> ire think tas been concern from both sides that the focus might be generated towards the senate because democrats have a decent shot of flippingsehe h but pelosi has a lot of things to think about, is r leadership at stake because of this energy we are seeing from new generation of democrats. robert: the court and congress, we are going to have to leave it there we are glad to have it there. before we go, we would like to extend our sympathy to the families, friends and colleagues of the five joernalists who senselessly killed on thursday in maryland. even with their hearts broken, the dedicated staff put out the newspaper today, remarkable courage and resilience to remember the five journalists. thank you and good night. funding for "washington week" is provided by -- >> their leadership is instinctive. they understand the challenges of today. an research the technologies of tomorrow. some call them veterans. we call them part o our team. >> addit

what do you expect from lisa murkowsky, from susan collins? from any other republicans that may hold up a nomination, that could overturn roe? and then what do we expect from joe manchin on the other side, and heidi heitkamp and senator donly from indiana. are they going to, because they want to get re-elected, are they going to blindly follow wherever trump's nominee takes them? >> well that is where all of the focus is going to be, joe. if you look at the democratic messaging that came out last night, they made it very clear the two things that they're going to focus on with any nominee are the two things that trump quite frankly said would be litmus tests which are the overturning of roe and also the aca. he's actually said that. he would choose, he said that in the past he would choose justice who is support these things. in the confirmation hearings, they will nail whoever the nominee is, on these points. now the two women republicans, yes, there's going to be a lot of focus on them. a lot of focus on the democrats. but i think lisa murko

i want to draw your attention to lisa murkowski and susan collins. why are they critical. because they both have shown that they're concerned about th wade. they are concerned about abortion. with anthony kennedy as the swing vote, this is the first opportunity in many decades for anti-abortion rights groups to get a chance to actually fundamentally reshape and perhaps take on that critical decision. i talk to senator susan collins about this a little bit earlier today. she was very clear. take a look. >> does the nominee have to commit to you that he or she would uphold the precedent of roe versus wade to get your support? >> i always have a thorough interview with judicial nominees for the supreme court, for circuit courts. and one of the questions that i always ask is, do they respect precedent? and from my perspective, roe v. wade is an important precedent and it is settled law. >> so as you can see, she says, look, this is settled and what she wants to hear from any nominee is that they are will respect those precedents. i do think that there are still -- we don't hav

the senate confirmation of kennedy's replacement could hinge on senators lisa murkowski and susan collins, two republicans who support abortion rights. >> i view roe v. wade as being settled law. >> president trump said he will nominate kennedy's successor from a list of about two dozen people. we're hearing the front-runners to replace justice kennedy include brett cavanaugh and raymo raymond kettledge. and a former judge from kentucky who's close to senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. >> laura podesta here in new york. thank you, laura. >>> ahead on "cbs this morning," leonard leo who helped revise the list of supreme court nominees, he'll tell us what president trump is looking for to succeed justice kennedy. >>> and president trump plans to meet with another controversial world president vladimir putin. bolton spoke at a press conference yesterday after he himself met with few tin. bolton says president trump will ask about the summit. russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. president trump says the meeting will likely take place after the meeting on july 11th and 12th

you see key players like chuck grassley, republican chair of judiciary can do, susan collins, lisa murkowski but at the bottom you have democrats like joe manchin, democrats facing reelection in strong trump republican states, in 2016, that is interesting, the president's critics say he doesn't reach out to democrats, he's clearly doing that. heitkamp praised that he is reaching out for democratic votes. contrast that to this process from democratic senators out of the supreme court denouncing the idea the president is going to try to get this pick done before the midterm elections even though barack obama got a supreme court nominee before the 2010 midterm switching contest disability of the white house about advice and consent with what democratic senators and liberal commentators are saying making it sound like this is the end of the world. >> looking at destruction of the constitution of the united states, folks he has been appointing for lifetime appointments. >> this court is unbounded in its power, not just abortion and marriage equality but everything. it is all political. >> whereve

i have a few question marks about lisa murkowski and susan collins. i think this will put red state democrats in a tough position if they don't vote for trump's nominee. if they don't, they will be in trouble with their far-left base. they are in a tough position in the mid-terms because of this. charles: the president has foreign trips lined up. first russia, then he'll address nato. it feels like for some it was cobbled together rather quickly, and people are wondering what we can achieve at a time when we are in disputes with our friends. ned: they thought the singapore summit it with kim jong-un was hastily put together and i thought it was a triumph and a positive step in the right direction. he has been talking about putin. i think it's a good thing to have talks with russia. singapore was such a success. charles: president trump saying just not long ago he'll focus on syria, ukraine, russia and the elections. people want him to be tough on vladimir putin with respect to meddling in the elections, and they wanted him to say it, whether putin say

people like susan collins and lisa murkowski have been incredibly thoughtful on helping support women's care. these are the kinds of voices the conversation taz we need to be having activating engaging in people across the country. >> republican senator susan collins of maine said roe versus wade is settled law when asked about abortion rights this afternoon. let's watch. >> well, first of all, i view roe versus wade as being settled law. it's clearly precedent and i always look for judges who respect precedent. >> susan collins is great and said she respects jungs accepts it as it is. do you believe that roe versus wade is safe? >> no, because when a president makes that pledge on national tv and says he's going to stick to it and goes to the measure of saying he would punish women, you have to take what he said during the campaign, he is implementing. and what we don't want is a bench that basically is going to follow that will textualist list being sent to him. it would be one thing if he was calling us and saying i hear you. let's hear who you think or justices that would follow pri

. >> besides these conservative democrats, we're looking at republicans like lisa murkowski and susan collins. is that what this fight will boil down to? >> it's one of the things this fight will boil down to. we're seeing a lot of attention being put on the issue of roe v. wade. when gorsuch replaced scalia, we knew that was a conservative. with the risk of a conservative taking kennedy's place, i think a lot of progressives and democrats are concerned about the future of roe versus wade. manchon is in a bits of a predicament. he's in deep red west virginia but at the same time he wants to appeal to a democratic base. the president has said he's not going to ask his potential nominees about the issue of roe v. wade, so that could open the door to speculation on the future of that ruling. so i think conservatives are really about to hunker down to really get someone into that court seat to potentially make traction on that issue. but i think you're going to see a big fight from democrats on that. so lots of money being put into this right now. >> and interesting days ahead. kevin, what signal

on the republican side, senator jeff flake has often opposed the president and lisa murkowski and susan collins are concerned about whether the court will uphold abortion rights. >> from my perspective, roe v. wade is an important precedent and it is settled law. >> reporter: on the democratic side, heidi heitkamp, joe donnelley and joe manchin are up for re-election. >> i think they want me to do my job, i would hope, kasie. my host is the best person with the best quaffifications gets that position. >> there is it next to nothing that democrats can do to stop this. don mcgahn has called knowuse to this knock-down-drag-out fight. lester? >> now to some explosive moments also on capitol hill as house republicans grilled fbi director christopher wray and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. republicans urging rosenstein to wrap up the russia investigation, which he's overseeing. democrats firing back. our chief white house correspondent hallie jackson has fore for us tonight. >> reporter: inside a house hearing room, a political production. >> i'm read what the press said. >> i would suggest

. >> reporter: alaska's lisa murkowski and maine's susan collins who says she wants a justice who views roe v. wade as settled law. senators are discouraged from asking a nominee how they would rule on a particular case, though, collins and the rest of the senate will dig through the nominees' records looking for clues once the president names his pick, which he says he will do very soon. nancy cordes, cbs news, capitol hill. >>> well, president trump says he's looking forward to his meeting with russian president vladimir putin. the summit will take place july 16th in thousands of documents by next week. >>> a september 7th hearing is set for president trump's former campaign aide. george papadopoulos lied last year. he is cooperating with the special counsel, robert mueller's investigation, into possible collusion and the trump cam pape. >>> and first lady melania trump made her second trip to immigration facility. she met with border officials in tucson, arizona, yesterday. she toured a facility in phoenix also. last week she visited a shelter in texas. >>> rescuers in thailand conti

. >> then you have lisa mer cow ski andusan collins, both pro choice, t the question is who on the democratice would support? you have three people running -- you have three democrats up for election right now that are ruing behind the republican oppone ds. you haveg moore the new senator from alabama >> dougjones. >> d jones forgive me. >>o the point being there will be democrats to make tough choices like the republican. >> joe mansion did vote to confirm justice gorsuch. this will be a big campaign issue. isn't it >> yes, it's turning it into it theoi it's reallng to, and it will be great to mobilizes the basis of aoth partind and both will do it. >> i count probably up t about five democratic senators whoog could be lally persuaded to vote for whatever e nomination is. but it will go into the fall, and hopef we'll see a vote octoberish, but both sides, you know, if there was any lack enthusiasm for the republican side, >> that is seals the gap. >> i think itight suggest someone look say a federal aappeals circuit court judge who'sdlready been v >> we have the latest from the scene of the

on the republican side, jeff flake, susan collins as well as lisa murkowski on the democratic side. we just showed them there. red state democrats. what does the president do? what does the white house do? it's my reporting they haven't done a ton on the actual pick side. >> yeah, well, they can't do much outreach to convince senators to vote for this pick until they have a pick. so they're going to want to vet these potential nominees. and trump's going to want to meet with them. i think one important factor and you know this based on all the appointments to nominations trump has made before, he values personal chemistry. he's going to want to have the finalists come in to sit down with them. he's going to want to feel like he can connect with this person. like this person is going to be loyal in some way to him. at least he's comfortable with the person. that's going to matter. then they're going to put a lot of pressure on heidi heitkamp and manchin of west virginia. they're going to really feel the heat. and one person to really look at is joe donnelly of indiana. that is a soci

senators lisa murkowski and susan collins of maine. >> roe v. wade is an important precedent. it is settled law. >> reporter: they will be under pressure. >> no question about that. terry moran live from the white house. president trump is in new jersey this weekend. he says he might be interviewing potential supreme court nominees. >> that's right, david, in new jersey and in washington next week. he said he might even add a couple names. he's been through this process before with neil gorsuch. it's clear he like other presidents wants to make that personal assessment. people in the process say he's looking not just for intellect, but toughness. >> terry, a comedian claiming he called the white house posing as a senator, congressman menendez and said he convinced them to get the president to call him back from air force one. >> that's right. the white house is not confirming this. we called senator menendez and they say the white house called and asked why senator menendez called. it was a comedian who was able to have a conversation with president trump. the president talkin

jeff flake, bob corker of tennessee, lisa murkowski, susan collins of maine.er if they will apply pressure or if they have any ammunition to regarding keeping the center, if you will. >> they could. where they may have more influence is in the process. you know, if mcconnell wants to ram somebody through really fast in the next two or three months and he's said that's what he wants to do, we know how the senate works. if you get two or three standing in the way, it will muck up the system. so that is a place where someone where the moderate republicans could use their influence to try to manage or adjust how the process works. >> shepard: you said two to three months to be rammed through. historically speaking, that would be fast. >> yes. >> shepard: your best observation, the next few months will be something in the way of order because republicans fall in line or will it be something in the way of chaos because individuals want their own say? >> i'd say we're looking at chaos. >> shepard: as simple as that? >> as simple as that. >> shepard: we don't already

to potentially lower the votes of two female republican senators who are questions now, lisa murkowski, susan collins? >> i definitely think that's a factor. a lot of democrats and progressives are going to label any nominee of the president's anti-woman and say that the end of roe v. wade is close. and so that they would unsettle that case. so if the president picks a woman, conservatives believe that it might be less likely that the democratic argument would gain traction because they would ask how could a woman be anti-woman. and so that's kind of the thinking that goes behind the white house take on whether to pick a woman. >> joey, to you, the president will not ask his potential nominees the short list about their views on roe v. wade. i mean, he won't have to, right? the list from which he's picking is a group of conservative judges, already gotten the thumbs up from several conservative january lifts, including -- analysts, including the federalist society weighing in. there's no scenario under which this president nominates a judge or potential judge on its bona fides. >> i don't have to ask

. >> gloria, how aren't are sunni collins and lisa murkowski, for the future of abortion rights in thisotes have senator murkowski and senator collins are are absolutely crucial. because we do know that the republicans are the majority. in the united states senate so their voices are parent. their votes are important and they understand the consequences. i'm sure they wouldn't call themselves proabortion. i'm sure they'd call themselves pro-choice because you know, as pro-choice people, we're not saying women should have abortions or should not have abortions. we are saying they should have that choice. they should have lib rer erty t make the voice for themselves and not have the government or senators sitting in the united states senate or washington or legislators make that choice, so their votes are crucial. we're going to be watching them carefully and the concept that let the decision stand. it's a legal concept called starry desis is. they have made that decision about roe v. wade time and time again. let decision stand. >> all right, thank you very much for your perspective and

republicans chuck grassly, lisa murkowski, susan collins, joe manchin, joe donnelly and heidi heitkampical correspondent dana bash is joining us now. july 9th, that's a week from monday. have you ever seen a president move this fast to fill a vacant seat on the supreme court? what is the rush? >> the rush is november, the election in november, and the fact that the republicans in the senate who lead the senate currently want to make sure that they can get this vote before them in case they don't lead the senate after november's election. obviously we have been talking several days about the fact this is controversial, given the fact on the presidential side, mitch mcconnell now the senate majority leader dragged his feet for ten months on president obama's nominee. you know, mcconnell argues those are apples and oranges, and it might be, but put that aside for a second. the real answer to your question is people look at washington and see all of this gridlock. but when there's a will, there really is a way. we have seen that so many times in so many different areas of policy and policy

how about susan collins, lisa murkowski. they are not up for re-election. they are pro choice.oe versus wade factors in critically to this nomination potentially. would one of them say on the basis of that issue -- they have had their differences with their party and the consebtive base before. mccain, last year a thumb's down, maybe he could emerge. however, all of them were yes votes on neil gorsuch last year. and democrats have to worry about their own. joe manchin, running for re-election in state donald trump won by 42 points. heitkamp, 36, joe in a state where trump won by 20. do they want to side with the democrats and blockade a nominee of this administration? that's a tough sell. that's the mathematical reality if they want to try to beat the nominee. we will see who president trump nominates and then come back and visit it then. >>> up next, what democrats plan to do to try to keep the president from move the court to the right. pain talk to your doctor and say yesss! to linzess. ♪ yesss! linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. linzes

. >> let's take a look at some of the key senators starting with lisa murkowski, lisa collins.cans particularly on the issue of abortion. there is a wonder out there whether or not they will on board with the president's pick. >> yeah. look, i think that's a fair question. both senators have immediately been targeted both by the white house as well as the democrats as possibly holding the key card in this vote. as far as senator murkowski goes she is generally pro-choice. widely viewed as an independent. keep in mind she has a very strong political base in alaska. she won a write-in campaign for goodness sake. for that reason the white house may realize that she may not be sus acceptable to the same type of political pressure that other senators could. and that they are really going to need to make a focused effort to persuade her on the merits of their nominee. ed: susan collins has said she doesn't think roe v. wade should be a litmus test here suggesting she is open, even though she is a moderate to potentially supporting a conservative. >> that's right. susan collins after

. >> just watch the two female senators lisa murkowski from alaska, susan collins.s why you are going to see at love pressure on them. you will see democrats two republicans if they could peel them away and say no, i mean, their handling of this process is going to be interesting. do they decide to be that vote for a justice that could potentially overturn roe v. wade. there may be a lot of people that think it's poorly worded. but this is politics. and there is going to be a message from democrats saying this court. this new trump court with two new supreme court justices will overturn the right to abortion in at least 30 states. >> shannon: you have to find somebody who has never written a opinion on it or answered a question on that. >> even that strikes me as optimistic. the conservation here is sanguine about the possibility of a fight over somebody's actual record and the things he or she has actually written. i don't think that's what's going to happen. i think democrats we have seen already are so hysterical at the prospect of a conservative court that they'

lisa murcowski and maine's susan collins who said she wants a justice who views it as settled law. >> prudent course is to wait and see whom the president chooses to nominate. >> senators are discouraged from asking nominees how they would rule on a particular case, so collins and the rest of the senate will comb through the record looking for clues once the president announces his pick which he said he will do very soon. >> hundreds of protesters demonstrated from portland, oregon to brownsville, texas. they blocked offices and courthouses and several were arrested. meanwhile the flood of migrants entering the united states illegally continues. federal agents near the mexican border invited david along for a raid. >> it's another layer of the story. over the last two weeks we have been here, we showed you where people were crossing the border every day and hour. this involved smugglers, is stashing people in houses. we were in the middle of a nice neighborhood and theesand told e he found the immigrants and gave them the garage door opener. nearly two dozen law enforcement agents sur

a' reporter: alaska's lisa murkowski and maine's susan collins, who said today she wants a justice who views "roe st wade" as settled law. >> the prudent course is to wait red see whom the president chooses to nominate. r: reporter: senators are discouraged from asking nominees how they would rule on a particular case, so collins and test of the senate will comb through the nominee's record looking for clues once the president announces his pick which, jeff, he says, he will do very soon. >> glor: nancy cordes on capitol hill. nancy, thank you. things got pretty heated today. republicans accused of f.b.i. and the department of justice of withholding documents from the mevestigation into russian meddling in the 2016 electio goa sparred with deputy attorney general rod rosenstein who oversees the special counsel probe. >> whatever you got, finish it the hell up, because this country is being torn apart. pp i think the best thing we can do is finish it appropriately and reach a conclusion. >> glor: rosenstein insisted his wifice is "not trying to hide anything." severe storms with gusts u

lisa murkowski and susan collins, according to politico. the fate of the supreme court could ride on these two senators. but how likely is it that collins and murkowski would actually break from their own party? well, we can look at some of their words now. according to politico, collins has said that an outside group should not be dictating whom the senate considers. murkowski says that trump has already kept his commitment to that list of 25 conservative choices by elevating neil gorsuch to the supreme court and that he should extend his search beyond that list. a very interesting comment there. so given that, what you're hearing from republicans, the president is also starting to put the pressure on democrats, specifically potentially flipable senators from red states that went for trump. joe manchin, joe donnelly, heidi heitkamp in particular, heitkamp getting some treatment from the president when he visited her home state earlier this week. >> we need kevin cramer to replace liberal democrat heidi heitkamp in the senate. heidi voted n