. >> lisa combot from the this is the first of the presentations on the kaiser new york city updates to the board and membership so welcome input in terms of and effective. we've had 4 meetings and the conversations have long been very good we've had strong attentions from the kairsz team and we're doing a lot of level setting getting us on the same package with regards to knowledge from what sf knows what's to be true and we've spent some time talking about the structure and goals of the negotiation and i wanted to take a minute to kind of review those and see if there are any questions they're open the first page. we'll have meeting through december lasting an hour one half. the vendors will be available to answer the questions from members during this session and those negotiations we expect to be completed by 1231 and presented to the board here for the january meeting. we're also expecting to complete and sign the commitments regarding the 2014 renewal where we had significant discussions around wellness and performance guarantee changes we explicit expect to have that completed