gibson was a specialist in the army returning home for christmas. kenneth's sister lisaet with gadhafi wednesday night and joins us now on the phone from colorado. lisa, good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> give me your impressions of moammar gadhafi, because for many of us, what we most recently saw was wednesday's 96-minute rambling speech at the united nations. how does he seem to you? >> well, when we met with him, he was very gracious. in fact, when we walked in the room, he immediately stood up and came and shook our hand and invited us to sit down and then just proceeded to have a conversation with him. so, yeah, he was very pleasant. it was a very friendly meeting in many ways. >> why did you have this meeting, lisa? >> well, i've been kind of on a long journey of trying to figure out how to really overcome this act of evil with good. i think that the most honoring thing i can do for my brother would be to see some kind of good thing come out of this horrific act, and when i went to libya on my first trip back in 2005, i was kind of on a person