what's the real lisa kudrow like? >> oh, i don't know. >> i'm putting you on the therapist's couch. >> i'm not a big game player. i don't like being manipulated at all. i mean -- i have a strong aversion to that. and so i don't do it myself. i try to be as direct as possible and, yeah. it's a miracle that's ever got married because i was never flirty. >> really? >> yeah. it felt like such of course behavior that i was too embarrassed to participate. >> you were trapped in this really, really weird thing of quite a happy marriage. >> yes. >> unusual by hollywood standards. >> you have been through a tried finding in the research i read, incidents of terrible drug abuse, alcoholism, multiple marriages, cheating, affairs, there's nothing there. europe miss squeaky clean. >> well, i even, i was born and it was like i turned 30 immediately. i was the one in high school that said -- if we get in the car with those boys, they're only 17, historically. worst drivers in the world and the worst judgment and i think they've been