author and academic doctor lisa mckenzie. surely with all this investment flooding into america, we should be tying our boat to them, not the eu. >> well, i mean, personally, i think we should be. we should be friendly with both. you know, there's no you know, i think this was the misnomer about brexit that somehow when we left the eu, we were not friends with the eu, we were not friends with the with the europeans anymore. and, you know, we didn't want a relationship that wasn't true. that's not actually what we voted for, what we voted for to leave europe was so we could have more self—determination, not because we disliked europeans. and i think what has been built around brexit is somehow some animosity. and i think some of that has come from macron, from merkel at the time. and actually the british people have never had any animosity towards europeans. no, it's just the european union, right? yes. that's right. i mean, i. >> but would you not say that realigning with them and saying, you know, we're going to reintroduce