and social justice activist lisa mcnair. thank you for joining us. >> hello, thank you for having me. >> chief scott come you invited lisa mcnair to speak to your department this week. what was the message you wanted your officers to hear? >> well, 2020 has been a terribly difficult year. it really brought a conversation about race in our country to the forefront. our country has a significant history with racially motivated hate incidents and the like. really, the theme of lisa's message, i think is so powerful. i wanted a snack command staff to hear a message of reconciliation, forgiveness, terrible incidents that make up our history but forgiveness that will be what it takes for all of us to move forward be a better country, better city, better police department. >> when usace forgiveness who are hoping who will forgive who? >> i think forgiveness is on every side of this conversation. policing, we have some significant challenges. particularly in san francisco. part of our reform initiative is set out to address disparit

we speak with social justice activists, lisa mcnair, about how san francisco can make policing more equitablehis look at something beautiful. welcome to kqed newsroom. we have a special focus tonight and justice, and police reform as we will be talking with leaders of two of the bay area's largest police forces. before we begin,