here with me now, lisa ruben. this is shocking what's happening in this country. the escalation in the number of threats. i want to go back to this nevada guy who's been allegedly arrested for threatening jackie rosen. from ohio, the latest city where they're hiring peoe to watch members of the city council when they go to events. not just because of what they've seen as a result of the israeli hamas war, but there have been incidents. we talk a lot about law enforcement trying to investigate this stuff, but what tools do prosecutors have in their bags to fight antisemitism? >> prosecutors have a number of tools to fight online, antisemitism or threats. i want to go to the rosen piece in particular because if jackie rosen's name were lisa ruben, federal prosecutors would have a number of tools to prosecute someone who said the same things to me online or my voice mail there were sent to rosen. there's a federal antistalking statute that prohibits certain threats made online. there are federal statutes that prohibit making threats to telecommunications devices or t

. >>> joining us now is msnbc legal analyst lisa ruben, who has been inside of the courtroom covering donald trump fraud case all week, and former federal prosecutor in new york, jessica roth. let's start with this nuclear story from abc news and "the new york times." this australian businessman is said to be one of the witnesses for jack smith's team. what sort of witness is he going to be? >> it sounds to me like he would provide some very important background information to establish essentially a pattern of the former president acting recklessly with the regard to maintain the secrecy of our national defense information. i don't believe that anything about this particular information is alleged in the indictment. it's not the basis for any of the specific charges. but nevertheless it could be admissible and relevant to show this pattern of the former president acting recklessly with regard to very sensitive, including nuclear information. and therefore it would go to his intent. >> same thing. it would go to his intent. one of the things about this anecdote that really trieks me,

lisa ruben reports inside the courthouse, the judge was very angry about this post. we are going to go back into the debate on the floor of the house. >> day one is to start making those kind of changes to this institution. opening up the process. allowing members to be more engaged. having amendments come to the floor. single subject bills. doing appropriations bills. yes, making that happen over night is not something that happens automatically but it's starting to happen and we are seeing the fruits of it. last week, we had four different appropriations bills on this house floor. four different ones. now, those bills took weeks and weeks to finally get to the floor. going through an open committee process. hundreds of amendments. each one of them where republicans, democrats, could bring their ideas and we debated those bills on the floor. some until after midnight. where members could actually participate in the process. right now, we need to resolve our differences inside this house chamber before we fight for those problems. but every day, families are struggli

joining us from outside the courthouse is former lit gator and msnbc legal analyst lisa ruben. the stand in this? and what do woe expect today? >> i do expect, mika, we will eventually see trump taking the stand. i don't think that will happen today oempb this week. today will be opening statements from both sides. a gentleman named kevin wallace is expected to present for the attorney general's office. and of course, for former president trump, the $3 million man from florida now become involved in this case, if and when trump does testify it will be because likely the attorney general called him as a witness and we will likely see him toward the end of the not the beginning mika. >> couple of questions, number one, et appears the judge came to his decision amidst a lot of frustration because of the trump team trying to slow things down, trying to really bog down the entire process. do you think the judge will make any moves about process moving forward going faster. that's number one. and also this receiver that's been put in place. what do you think the initial right now tod

joining us now, msnbc legal analyst, lisa ruben. she's outside of the courthouse. rd today? >> let's start with the gag order. it is a gag order. i don't object to calling it that, because that's what it is. it's a narrow one. it only impacts trump's speech and that of the attorney general, too, insofar as they are talking about judicial staff. it doesn't prohibit him, for example, from making some of the comments he has continued to make about the attorney general of new york, the judge, who is overseeing this trial, and any number of trial participants. more globally, i think for trump, this doesn't impact him so much. he can achieve through his physical presence at this trial that which he cannot through his social media posts, at least if he is trying to avoid a further limitation on his speech by chutkan. by sitting in the courtroom and glaring at the judge and at witnesses and at letitia james, he is trying to intimidate people. it's not working. i don't expect him to stop any time soon. >> what about the evidence? what about what's going on in the courtroom b

joining our coverage, msnbc legal analyst alyssa ruben, neal stays with us as well. lisac, but it has been a very dramatic week. >> it has been a dramatic week. not all the drama was necessarily around the courtroom. >> was all legal, right yeah. >> most of the drama was outside the courtroom. but if you are a legal observer, as i am, and a former lawyer, you understood that some of what appeared to be really dry testimony was actually itself very dramatic. that's how i would characterize the last two days with jeff mac connie, the former trump organization controller, now retired. he was the principal point of contact with the accountants for the preparation of the financial statements that are at issue in this case. he was also the person that largely assigned values to properties, of course as directed by allen weisselberg, who we assume was also directed by former president trump. and in that testimony, we got a bunch of really damning admissions about the most egregious examples of fraud. i think the best was today when they were talking about the golf courses. the s