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. >> i'm going to bring into the conversation, and stick with me, our legal correspondent lisa rubin. asked greg a moment ago a question a doesn't have the results in hand by the certification deadline. what would he do? >> well, if governor kemp doesn't have the results fully in hand, he still, katy, could certify a slate of lectors and send them to congress, but what i was focused on in your conversation with greg, what happens if brian kemp didn't send a slate of electors to congress? what would happen them under a 2022 statute, the electoral count reform act, is that the number required to win in the electoral college would be diminished, essentially, by the number that's not sent in. so as our colleague rachel maddow said in "the new york times" the other day, it would reduce the number from 270 to 262 because georgia has 16 electoral votes. but let's say kamala harris were the rightful winner of those 16 electoral votes, donald trump would deprive her of all of them theoretically if this rules change prevents brian kemp from sending electors to congress in the first place. you c
. >> i'm going to bring into the conversation, and stick with me, our legal correspondent lisa rubin. asked greg a moment ago a question a doesn't have the results in hand by the certification deadline. what would he do? >> well, if governor kemp doesn't have the results fully in hand, he still, katy, could certify a slate of lectors and send them to congress, but what i was focused on in your conversation with greg, what happens if brian kemp didn't send a slate of electors to...
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msnbc correspondent lisa rubin is with me. plain what this is all about and how it could complicate things in november. >> chris, this is a lawsuit against the georgia state election board. it's a five-member board that makes rules essentially for the conduct and administration of elections in georgia. the suit is over two rules in particular that affect november's elections, both of which allow for local county election board members to do a reasonable inquiry on one hand or even demand all election-related documentation prior to certifying local election results. the reason that this could be chaos going into november's election is because if local county board members do these things a reasonable inquiry demanding documentation and delay the certification of their own county's results that could have reverberations for the submission of the entire state's results and it could prevent raffensperger from certifying results or passing them on to brian kent. you can see here how even decisions made by a single person in a county
msnbc correspondent lisa rubin is with me. plain what this is all about and how it could complicate things in november. >> chris, this is a lawsuit against the georgia state election board. it's a five-member board that makes rules essentially for the conduct and administration of elections in georgia. the suit is over two rules in particular that affect november's elections, both of which allow for local county election board members to do a reasonable inquiry on one hand or even demand...
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msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is all over this story and joins me now. shot of delaying this and it has to do with the kind of grenade that john roberts lobbed from the supreme court up the east coast and into the courtroom of judge merchan when the court announced its immunity decision. >> i think that's right. he lobbed that grenade across town as well to the federal courthouse. you are right to say he lobbed a grenade at judge merchan in new york because one of the holdings of the decision you are referring to is that presidents are not only immune from prosecution for their official acts, but that evidence of official acts can't be used even with respect to charges that are solely with respect to their unofficial capacity and that is the basis on which trump has moved to vacate the verdict. we are expecting a decision on that motion on september 16 and that is the reason that trump gave today in that filing for postponing his sentencing, among others. he says he is entitled to appeal a denial of his motion to set aside the verdict before he proceeds t
msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is all over this story and joins me now. shot of delaying this and it has to do with the kind of grenade that john roberts lobbed from the supreme court up the east coast and into the courtroom of judge merchan when the court announced its immunity decision. >> i think that's right. he lobbed that grenade across town as well to the federal courthouse. you are right to say he lobbed a grenade at judge merchan in new york because one of the holdings of...
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nbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is here to break it all down so, what happens now, lisa and realisticallyforward? >> well, chris, the first thing that has to happen is that the department of justice has been notified of trump's intent to sue. they have some time now to assess whether or not they want to engage in a settlement of negotiation process with the former president but based on their posture so far in these cases, including the fact that they have appeal the dismissal of the mar-a-lago case, i think we can expect that they are not going to engage in that and that means that trump is going to be waiting. under the statute, he has to wait for a final response from the affected agency before he files a lawsuit, but if at the six-month mark, he hasn't received that, he can go ahead and file suit. that likely means that donald trump will be waiting until well after the november election to see whether or not the department of justice wants to settle this with him or pay him any money that he claims he's owed >> lisa rubin, thank you for that meantime, the bipartisan task force that's
nbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is here to break it all down so, what happens now, lisa and realisticallyforward? >> well, chris, the first thing that has to happen is that the department of justice has been notified of trump's intent to sue. they have some time now to assess whether or not they want to engage in a settlement of negotiation process with the former president but based on their posture so far in these cases, including the fact that they have appeal the dismissal of the...
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joining me now is lisa rubin, msnbc legal correspondent.ic things about the law and why do you suppose that was not included? >> joy, ignorance of the law is not the basis to seek a judge's removal and recusal from a case. there were some folks who did think that the special counsel's office would seek judge cannon's removal because of a history of bias against his office, and what we didn't see here is as you noted, we didn't see that request, but i do want to note for you that if you talked to former federal prosecutors and other people who are students of federal courts, they will tell you that just because a party doesn't make that request doesn't mean that a court of appeals can't do it on its own, and i cited multiple examples today from the folks that i talkeded to on background and off the record about whether the 11th circuit could consider to do it on its own. that having been said, and they could do it, there's nothing in this brief that is so bombastic or reeks of them trying to convince the court that they would justify it and
joining me now is lisa rubin, msnbc legal correspondent.ic things about the law and why do you suppose that was not included? >> joy, ignorance of the law is not the basis to seek a judge's removal and recusal from a case. there were some folks who did think that the special counsel's office would seek judge cannon's removal because of a history of bias against his office, and what we didn't see here is as you noted, we didn't see that request, but i do want to note for you that if you...
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joining us now nbc's vaughn hillyard, also with us msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. let's start with you, lisa, what specifically is different in this superseding indictment vis-a-vis the original one? >> that's start with the biggest change, josÉ. the supreme court had said that president trump's communications with his department of justice were part of his core constitutional authority and the special counsel responded to that by taking out of this superseding indictment over 15 paragraphs that just talked about the plan to use the department of justice to essentially put its thumb on the scale and tell state legislatures that they didn't have to accept their state's slate of electors, that includes a series of conversations with senior leadership at the department of justice who told the president in no uncertain terms that there was no evidence of widespread fraud. so that's all gone. in addition, there are some recharacterizations as you mentioned. there is an effort to try to refer to former vice president pence in his capacity as president of the senate, not a
joining us now nbc's vaughn hillyard, also with us msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. let's start with you, lisa, what specifically is different in this superseding indictment vis-a-vis the original one? >> that's start with the biggest change, josÉ. the supreme court had said that president trump's communications with his department of justice were part of his core constitutional authority and the special counsel responded to that by taking out of this superseding indictment over 15...
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msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin joins me now. delay or this request indicate to you? >> it indicates to me, chris, that jack smith actually has a lot more supervision than folks that are partial to former president trump would like to admit. you'll remember that judge aileen cannon in florida dismissed the mar-a-lago classified documents case in part because she found that judge -- i'm sorry, that jack smith was unlawfully appointed. why? because in her finding, he was too independent. he hadn't been confirmed by the senate. his appointment was unconstitutional, but now jack smith is telling judge chutkan, i need three more weeks because i need to confer with other components and units at the department of justice. what that tells me is jack smith is not an island. he needs to have those conversations with everyone from attorney general merrick garland to perhaps the deputy attorney general, to other units in the department of justice including their appellate lawyers in the office of legal counsel and the solicitor general's offi
msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin joins me now. delay or this request indicate to you? >> it indicates to me, chris, that jack smith actually has a lot more supervision than folks that are partial to former president trump would like to admit. you'll remember that judge aileen cannon in florida dismissed the mar-a-lago classified documents case in part because she found that judge -- i'm sorry, that jack smith was unlawfully appointed. why? because in her finding, he was too independent. he...
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joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, also with us nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard and, lisa, good morning. what more are we learning about this? >> jose, what we're learning this morning is that former president trump's lawyers are asking judge juan merchan to move the date of his sentencing, which is currently scheduled for september 18th to some date after the election. now, judge merchan has a pending motion before him to vacate the verdict. that motion is supposed to be decided by september 18th. by september 16th, a couple of days before. the conventional wisdom is he's going to deny it and move on to sentencing. they're telling him, you should hold the sentencing if at all until after the election and one of most interesting features they say is if you deny our motion to set aside the verdict, by postponing the sentencing, you will allow us to pursue appellate options. that's a signal that former president trump is not going to take a decision from judge merchan lying down, but is thinking about going to either state and/or federal appeals courts to try and f
joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, also with us nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard and, lisa, good morning. what more are we learning about this? >> jose, what we're learning this morning is that former president trump's lawyers are asking judge juan merchan to move the date of his sentencing, which is currently scheduled for september 18th to some date after the election. now, judge merchan has a pending motion before him to vacate the verdict. that motion is...
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msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin joins me now. what should we make of this? >> it's not just a rejection of the attempt to delay the sentencing, missouri wanted to intervene in the case to make the gag order go away as well. the argument that the attorney general of missouri is making that his states residents weren't able to be well informed or cast an informed ballot. you see seven justices saying no go. your original suit by the state of missouri against new york isn't even going to pass go but justices thomas and alito would have let andrew bailey, the attorney general of missouri, file the complaint. that in and of itself is particularly stunning, given the questions about their neutrality on these and other cases, chris. >> also where the gag order stands right now, right, which is extremely limited. >> that's right. >> we don't have any citizens of that state who donald trump can't make applying arguments to. >> that's correct. >> he can criticize people. >> he's free to talk about his political opponents, current and past, both president biden and vic
msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin joins me now. what should we make of this? >> it's not just a rejection of the attempt to delay the sentencing, missouri wanted to intervene in the case to make the gag order go away as well. the argument that the attorney general of missouri is making that his states residents weren't able to be well informed or cast an informed ballot. you see seven justices saying no go. your original suit by the state of missouri against new york isn't even going...
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joining us now, justice reporter, ryan reilly, and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin.did jack smith remove, drop from the indictment, ryan, sorry? >> so the official acts are essentially what's out. all of the action around the justice department and especially jeff clark who was an unindicted coconspirator. he is out of this indictment now. he's not really a factor of it. basically they eliminated anything that there was a solid argument at least under the supreme court's interpretation that this was an official act done in his capacity as president of the united states, rather than a candidate for office. and now they're sort of refocusing, as you mentioned, all of those allegations around his role as a candidate. so there's a little bit more focus on, say, the speech, for example, this was a speech. he wasn't making as president. this was a speech they were saying he was making as a candidate for office and everything is really framed around that idea, to basically serve this up and give them a clean start. it was a new grand jury that heard the evidence that decide
joining us now, justice reporter, ryan reilly, and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin.did jack smith remove, drop from the indictment, ryan, sorry? >> so the official acts are essentially what's out. all of the action around the justice department and especially jeff clark who was an unindicted coconspirator. he is out of this indictment now. he's not really a factor of it. basically they eliminated anything that there was a solid argument at least under the supreme court's...
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joining me now lisa rubin. so they're asking the department of justice to look into this. >> yeah.eason. because some of the efforts, while described as an attempt to enforce texas laws for voter integrity as part of ken paxton voter integrity unit they seemed designed more to intimidate people who are trying to encourage and incentivize citizens to vote. there is no indication so far that these voter registration efforts are tied to voting for about 1900 noncitizens in texas, law enforcement efforts with respect to that noncitizen voting is separate and apart from the raids. so what we don't know that the department of justice will follow up on the complaint, it is a complaint that thus far based on what we know sounds well founded and something within the department of justice's wheelhouse to investigation in its voting component of this civil rights unit. >> that is what ken paxton presented to get the search warrants, the undocumented voters? >> it is not clear what ken paxton presented to get the search warrants and we know that the raid earlier last week, that they were exten
joining me now lisa rubin. so they're asking the department of justice to look into this. >> yeah.eason. because some of the efforts, while described as an attempt to enforce texas laws for voter integrity as part of ken paxton voter integrity unit they seemed designed more to intimidate people who are trying to encourage and incentivize citizens to vote. there is no indication so far that these voter registration efforts are tied to voting for about 1900 noncitizens in texas, law...
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lisa rubin, thanks for bringing us that breaking news. >>> turning to the race for the white house, with a week of rallies under their belt, the harris/walz ticket is ramping up to the democratic national convention once viewed as a hail mary, next week's gathering will serve as a show of force for vice president harris and will include speeches from former presidents clinton and obama, as well as president biden. with democrats driving the headlines for weeks now, former president trump is off message and off the trail. for the second straight week, he has just one rally scheduled trump is set to do an interview on x tonight with the social media site's owner, billionaire, trump backer elon musk aaron gilchrist joins us and amy parns, former clinton adviser richard goodstein, and former adviser to two republican house speakers, brendan buck aaron, vice president harris is back in d.c. today what does her week ahead look like >> reporter: this week is going to look different from the week we saw last week for the harris campaign we know the vice president is expected to only have a video
lisa rubin, thanks for bringing us that breaking news. >>> turning to the race for the white house, with a week of rallies under their belt, the harris/walz ticket is ramping up to the democratic national convention once viewed as a hail mary, next week's gathering will serve as a show of force for vice president harris and will include speeches from former presidents clinton and obama, as well as president biden. with democrats driving the headlines for weeks now, former president...
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okay lisa rubin, i say now dismissed, there's an appeal, though, right? is this going to go up to the -- i have been gone for two weeks you have to fill me in what's happening in this case, and does donald trump have a case to say he's owed money for that raid? >> let's start with what's happening with the race. the special counsel, katy is going to submit the initial appeals brief on august 27th that's an appeal of the dismissal of the mar-a-lago case, premised on the ground that jack smith was unconstitutionally appointed according to the trump folks this suit that trump has notify the department of justice that he would like to bring, i'll pause there, has to do with something entirely different it has to do with the fact that he alleges he was damaged by their unconstitutional search and then the ensuing indictment and expenses he had to occur in defending himself against that case, which as you noted has been dismissed the notice that he served on the department of justice didn't a lawsuit yet, and under federal statute, it can't become a lawsuit unt
okay lisa rubin, i say now dismissed, there's an appeal, though, right? is this going to go up to the -- i have been gone for two weeks you have to fill me in what's happening in this case, and does donald trump have a case to say he's owed money for that raid? >> let's start with what's happening with the race. the special counsel, katy is going to submit the initial appeals brief on august 27th that's an appeal of the dismissal of the mar-a-lago case, premised on the ground that jack...
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joining me now is nbc's priya is a ree that are with the latest, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is with me. tim miller is back with me. >> reporter: this new rule essentially gives more power to local election officials to conduct what they're calling a reasonable ink worry, which would allow them to ensure that the results of an election are an accurate and true accounting of all the ballots and the votes cast, but what critics of the rule says is that this gives too much discretionary power to local election officials that will allow them to essentially dispute, deny, or reject the outcome of an election if their preferred candidate doesn't achieve the desired results that they want, and that could essentially delay or draw out the entire election process, and what's really at dispute here is georgia state law says local election officials shall certify the results of an election, and so what many of the people who are against this new rule say is that that means that it's a ministerial thing. it's more of a symbolic part of the process, but others, you know, republicans who h
joining me now is nbc's priya is a ree that are with the latest, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is with me. tim miller is back with me. >> reporter: this new rule essentially gives more power to local election officials to conduct what they're calling a reasonable ink worry, which would allow them to ensure that the results of an election are an accurate and true accounting of all the ballots and the votes cast, but what critics of the rule says is that this gives too much...
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lisa rubin, thank you very much. >> thank you, katy. >>> coming up next, will they or won't they? what is suddenly throwing the first debate between these two people, the first time, by the way, that kamala harris will ever be speaking face to face to donald trump ever, what's throwing it up in the air? why it might not happen. don't go anywhere. appen. don't go anywhere. tlong in the app to $6.99. wait, subway did what?! $6.99 footlongs? yep! says right here. $6.99 for any footlong. get this deal in the subway app now before it's too late. did you know your skin barrier is more receptive to skincare at night? olay super serum night repair. delivers five benefits in one. visibly renewing surface skin cells while you sleep. you'll see visible results in 7 nights. olay. it's payback time. all these years, you've worked hard. you fixed it. you looked after it. in 7 nights. maybe it's time for your home to start taking care of you. we've invested in our home, we've worked on it, we had a whole lot of equity just sitting there, you paid down the mortgage, invested in your home. i guess
lisa rubin, thank you very much. >> thank you, katy. >>> coming up next, will they or won't they? what is suddenly throwing the first debate between these two people, the first time, by the way, that kamala harris will ever be speaking face to face to donald trump ever, what's throwing it up in the air? why it might not happen. don't go anywhere. appen. don't go anywhere. tlong in the app to $6.99. wait, subway did what?! $6.99 footlongs? yep! says right here. $6.99 for any...
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. >>> and joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. imagine you will do what i used to do, waiting for the harry potters to come out, standing in line at midnight to get my hands on a fresh copy. will you be refreshing the court documents page to get these briefings come midnight tonight? >> yes, i will, i'll be like that kermit the frog meme we have seen on twitter, where the person is furiously typing. i'm really hoping i'm not waiting until midnight tonight. then, again i could be. and that's because as ken just outlined for you, there's likely to be serious disagreement between the parties as to the best path forward. yes, jack smith, and his team issued a superseding indictment to try and avoid some of the protracted litigation that could have come from the supreme court's decision about what's official, what's not official, how does a presumption of immunity apply, and when can it be rebutted. those are all sort of unanswered questions after the supreme court's ruling and so you see smith and his team through the superseding indic
. >>> and joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. imagine you will do what i used to do, waiting for the harry potters to come out, standing in line at midnight to get my hands on a fresh copy. will you be refreshing the court documents page to get these briefings come midnight tonight? >> yes, i will, i'll be like that kermit the frog meme we have seen on twitter, where the person is furiously typing. i'm really hoping i'm not waiting until midnight tonight. then,...
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joining us now is lisa rubin, nbc legal correspondent, this seemed like a hail mary the first time butgs that look like hail mary's end up getting caught in the end zone for a touchdown, i didn't know, what happened here?>> it is not over yet, this is a classic example, if you first don't succeed, try, try again. the manhattan federal court has rejected this effort to move the new york hush money case to federal court, but really on technical grounds, he told the trump lawyers they can refile their application but when they do so, they have to attach one of two things, both of which it seems they don't have, they either have to attach the written consent of the manhattan d.a.s office, or they have to attach permission from the judge himself and they have to apply for that permission. they have delayed the necessary time to process this application, that also gives the judge time to resolve the existing motions before him that they brought, that include a motion to postpone trump's sentencing until after the election, a motion to set aside the verdict and of course he dealt with the thi
joining us now is lisa rubin, nbc legal correspondent, this seemed like a hail mary the first time butgs that look like hail mary's end up getting caught in the end zone for a touchdown, i didn't know, what happened here?>> it is not over yet, this is a classic example, if you first don't succeed, try, try again. the manhattan federal court has rejected this effort to move the new york hush money case to federal court, but really on technical grounds, he told the trump lawyers they can...
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. >> i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. nbc's vaughn hillyard is with me on set. so, lisa, the secretary of state said this is a recipe for chaos. what do we know? what can you tell us? >> well, first of all, chris, this is a potential recipe for chaos because georgia has 159 counties and the lawsuit is about, as you noted, two different rules passed by the georgia state election board that impact how county election boards conduct their own processes prior to certifying election results. not only would it allow individual county boards to conduct reasonable inquiries prior to certifying their results, but it also would empower local board members, again, in each county to demand any and all election-related documentation prior to certification and that bumps right up against a provision of georgia's statutory law that says counties must certify their election results by a time and date certain. so through this lawsuit the democratic national committee, the democratic party of georgia, a variety of county-level election boar
. >> i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. nbc's vaughn hillyard is with me on set. so, lisa, the secretary of state said this is a recipe for chaos. what do we know? what can you tell us? >> well, first of all, chris, this is a potential recipe for chaos because georgia has 159 counties and the lawsuit is about, as you noted, two different rules passed by the georgia state election board that impact how county election boards conduct their own processes prior to...
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joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. ase stands, what impact it could have on donald trump, if any or if not, and then how important would her testimony be? >> let's start, mika, with where this case stands, which is at the outset of proceedings. we had a series of hearings earlier in the summer where the defendants got to enter their pleas. shortly after that, the lead prosecutor, nick clingerman, told a gaggle of reporters that they'll make some plea offers. in fact, when he made that statement, he knew he had met with jenna ellis just the day before. a meeting referred to in the plea documents. that's where jenna ellis laid out for prosecutors, here's what i can give you. here's what i am prepared to say. here is what i know about the events at issue in this indictment. indeed, jenna ellis, in cutting a plea deal here, is pleading guilty, but there will be no charges against her. there will be no consequences for her unless, and this is a big unless, unless prosecutors find that during that june 17th meeting or at any
joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. ase stands, what impact it could have on donald trump, if any or if not, and then how important would her testimony be? >> let's start, mika, with where this case stands, which is at the outset of proceedings. we had a series of hearings earlier in the summer where the defendants got to enter their pleas. shortly after that, the lead prosecutor, nick clingerman, told a gaggle of reporters that they'll make some...
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mar-a-lago illegal and unconstitutional joining us with the latest is msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubinwhat do we know about this notification >> well, jose, former president trump intends to sue the department of justice for what he calls an unconstitutional raid at his home, mar-a-lago in august of 2022 that's a claim that largely has to be brought within a certain amount of time, and the way that the law works is, first, somebody who's making a claim against the federal government for damages has to serve a notice on the affected federal agency, here that's the department of justice, and then they give that federal agency an opportunity to respond if they don't respond within six months that person can initiate a suit this is donald trump's team to reclaim the narrative as you were just discussing in your last segment he's going to go on the defensive and say the department of justice unlawfully searched his home and owes him not just $100 million, $115 million for the cost that he incurred in defending himself and also $100 million in punitive damages for maliciously prosecuting him
mar-a-lago illegal and unconstitutional joining us with the latest is msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubinwhat do we know about this notification >> well, jose, former president trump intends to sue the department of justice for what he calls an unconstitutional raid at his home, mar-a-lago in august of 2022 that's a claim that largely has to be brought within a certain amount of time, and the way that the law works is, first, somebody who's making a claim against the federal government...
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joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin. why would he want to wait?ts the fact that at the department of justice, there is a divergence of opinions about what the best way forward is. you can look at the fact that there have been several weeks since the supreme court opinion, and save yourself as maybe meryl streep's character did, why is no one ready, but on the other hand, there is so much left unsaid by the supreme court majority about the appropriate path forward, we know that the president is entitled, or the former president is entitled to a rebuttable presumption of immunity for his official acts. think about how much of that wasn't clarified by the court. what counts as an official act. if you can rebut the presumption, how are you supposed to do that. what evidence counts as sufficient to rebut that presumption. what factors should a court consider. thinking through the all the guidance that the supreme court didn't leave behind, you can understand why various constituencies within the department of justice and even among jack smith's team mi
joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin. why would he want to wait?ts the fact that at the department of justice, there is a divergence of opinions about what the best way forward is. you can look at the fact that there have been several weeks since the supreme court opinion, and save yourself as maybe meryl streep's character did, why is no one ready, but on the other hand, there is so much left unsaid by the supreme court majority about the appropriate path forward, we know that...
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i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, also with us, legal analyst danny savallos. walk us through what donald trump was trying to do here. it seems counter intuitive that he would be able to make this legal argument at this stage of the case. a case that has already been adjudicated in the state court, to a federal court. explain this. >> let's start with your first question. it seems counterintuitive that he could do it at this point. the federal removal statute which is what they're relying on allow a criminal defendant to move a case to federal court after the trial if they can show good cause for doing that. so it's not blocked for them to try what they're doing now. of course, the reason they're doing so, particularly now that the case has been adjudicated, is because what is remaining in the case. because of the sentencing that is currently scheduled for september 18th. they've asked new york criminal court judge juan rashaun to delay that sentencing which is currently scheduled for the 18th. he hasn't responded to them yet. it is because of that and their de
i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, also with us, legal analyst danny savallos. walk us through what donald trump was trying to do here. it seems counter intuitive that he would be able to make this legal argument at this stage of the case. a case that has already been adjudicated in the state court, to a federal court. explain this. >> let's start with your first question. it seems counterintuitive that he could do it at this point. the federal removal statute which...
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joining us now former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and former u.s.egal analyst joyce vance. lisa, i will start with you. procedure, tell us what's going on here and does trump have to show up at that conference and any of these proceedings? >> so let's start with does he have to show up at the status conference. the answer is no, mika, the judge said in her order over the weekend that his appearance is waived. he doesn't have to come. in terms of what's next, we have one deadline this week and then obviously that status conference next week. the deadline this week is for what's called the joint status report from the parties where they are going to tell her what they each think is the best way forward. remember according to the supreme court judge chutkan now has to decide essentially which allegations can be in the case and which have to come out pursuant to their decision on presidential immunity. each side is going to have their own ideas as to how she can best get to that decision and what she needs to hear from them. we will likely hear from the
joining us now former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and former u.s.egal analyst joyce vance. lisa, i will start with you. procedure, tell us what's going on here and does trump have to show up at that conference and any of these proceedings? >> so let's start with does he have to show up at the status conference. the answer is no, mika, the judge said in her order over the weekend that his appearance is waived. he doesn't have to come. in terms of what's next, we have...
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joining us now, former litigor on msnbc, lisa rubin. lisa, when you look at this indictment, does it satisfy the conditions that the supreme court put on the idea that the president cannot be tried for official acts? has jack smith managed to thread that needle. >> katty, anybody who tells you definitively yes or no that he's threaded that needle, hasn't red the supreme court decision. that supreme court decision lacks the guide tones the office because it says that a president is entitled to presumptive immunity for his official acts, but it doesn't necessarily define with precision what's official or even how the special counsel could rebut that resumption. and it alsoization the presumption of immunity is rebuttalal for now, suggesting is the supreme court could revisit that issue even on this superseding indictment. that having been said, i think jack smith and his team made a very good faith effort to pare down the indictment. and particularly take out a number of allegations not just the department of justice that the supreme court
joining us now, former litigor on msnbc, lisa rubin. lisa, when you look at this indictment, does it satisfy the conditions that the supreme court put on the idea that the president cannot be tried for official acts? has jack smith managed to thread that needle. >> katty, anybody who tells you definitively yes or no that he's threaded that needle, hasn't red the supreme court decision. that supreme court decision lacks the guide tones the office because it says that a president is...
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joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin.ould her testimony be? >> let's start with where this case stands, which is at the outset of proceedings, we had a series of hearings earlier in the summer where the defendants got to enter there please. shortly after that, the lead prosecutor told a gaggle of reporters, who include msnbc news, "we expect the next steps will be to make simply offers." when he made that statement, he knew he had met with jenna ellis the day before in a meeting that is referred to in these plea documents. that is where jenna ellis laid out for prosecutors , here is what i can give you, here is what i am prepared to say, here is what i know about the events at issue in this indictment. indeed, jenna ellis, in cutting a plea deal, is pleading guilty. but, there will be no charges against her. there will be no consequences for her. unless, and this is a big unless, unless prosecutors find during that june 17th meeting, or at any time in the future, she lies to them about what transpired in arizona. now, wit
joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin.ould her testimony be? >> let's start with where this case stands, which is at the outset of proceedings, we had a series of hearings earlier in the summer where the defendants got to enter there please. shortly after that, the lead prosecutor told a gaggle of reporters, who include msnbc news, "we expect the next steps will be to make simply offers." when he made that statement, he knew he had met with...
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nicolle, let's go back to georgia and sorry to do this while i'm walking but i was just reading lisa rubin'sbeen praising as pit bulls for the actions they're taking allowing them to potentially slow the count of the votes and review the votes. i want to talk to people if they are concerned about what they think. excuse me, might ultimately be the out come of the election. given how narrow this margin was. it looks like there is a couple of folks here from georgia and let me see if could. >> and ask if they know if their lieutenant governor is speaking there tonight. >> okay, that is a great point. are you georgia delegates? >> yes, we are. >> do you know that your lieutenant governor is speaking her tonight. >> yes. >> do you really? >> yeah. >> come on over. jacob soberoff, we're live on msnbc, what is your name. >> al williams from midway, georgia. >> what is your thoughts about the lieutenant governor being up on the stage. >> great guy. i served on him. we were on different sides of vefrl issues. he was in the majority and i was in the minority and he was always a stand up guy and eye b
nicolle, let's go back to georgia and sorry to do this while i'm walking but i was just reading lisa rubin'sbeen praising as pit bulls for the actions they're taking allowing them to potentially slow the count of the votes and review the votes. i want to talk to people if they are concerned about what they think. excuse me, might ultimately be the out come of the election. given how narrow this margin was. it looks like there is a couple of folks here from georgia and let me see if could....
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the last 24 hours comes from scott rubin or, the pain trade for equities is higher and the bath of being bearish at the beach into a labor day barbecue party is high. lisa: not just because everyone wants to have fun but because this is the right kind of meltdown, not just coming from big tech or a small and select group of names. the s&p 500 had a new record high yesterday even though the market cap ended up about 1% away from the all-time high. it's the right kind of rally. jonathan: validated by the fundamentals over the last week or so. you have heard this bank to bank, an economist to economist. we are slowing, but the fundamentals didn't point to a slump. slow and steady, not fast and furious. this came from months ago, cyclical data continuing to defy recessionary fears. lisa: it's not just what we saw with jobless claims coming in below expectations and retail sales coming in strong, but when you look at the earnings, the growth is beyond mag seven with expansion of profit margins in a way that we haven't seen in several quarters with sales gains that we haven't seen for a couple of years. these are kinds of green shoots that people want to see
the last 24 hours comes from scott rubin or, the pain trade for equities is higher and the bath of being bearish at the beach into a labor day barbecue party is high. lisa: not just because everyone wants to have fun but because this is the right kind of meltdown, not just coming from big tech or a small and select group of names. the s&p 500 had a new record high yesterday even though the market cap ended up about 1% away from the all-time high. it's the right kind of rally. jonathan:...