. >> lisa warren is vice president of a de capo press. >> up next, author bill ayers, distinguished professor of education as you university scholar at the university of illinois at chicago joins booktv for an in-depth interview from the printer's row of little vest in chicago. >> bill ayers, in your book "to teach" you talk about teachers having a world choice. what is that moral choice? >> i think that teaching is profound ethical work in the moral choice is to choose to take the side of the students, to choose to see them as three-dimensional creatures with hearts and minds and spirits, that somehow have to be both martian challenged and to see yourself as something which is in the position of shepherding the choices of others and that gives you a very profound i think ethically responsibility so part of it is to see the students whole, to see them as human beings not as interchangeable cog in a machine, that is infinitely manipulable but see them as human beings much like yourself and to open your eyes to that. >> is individuals? >> and as members of the committee both and that is one of