talk about this story of survival and revival, the president and ceo of the billy graham eadvantage listic association. why -- what was his relationship with your father? >> he was a war hero and the whole country knew him. torrance named their airport after him thinking he was dead because he was so well known as an olympian and his heroism in the second world war. my father was just a young preacher. but he was holding a meeting in 1949. he was asked by a group of christian businessmen and some pastors to come and hold a service in washington and hill downtown los angeles they put up a big tent and louis zamperini's life was falling apart. he was an alcoholic. he was -- his marriage was failing. his wife had already filed divorce papers. she was leaving him. but she went to hear my father. this young man no one heard of. she gave her heart to jesus christ and her life was changed. and she came back and said i gave my life to gee vus christ and i'm not going to divorce you. he was thrilled and excited about. that she asked him to come hear -- finally she kept pressuring him and he came. t

talk about this story of survival and revival, the president and ceo of the billy graham eadvantage listic association. why -- what was his relationship with your father? >> he was a war hero and the whole country knew him. torrance named their airport after him thinking he was dead because he was so well known as an olympian and his heroism in the second world war. my father was just a young preacher. but he was holding a meeting in 1949. he was asked by a group of christian businessmen and some pastors to come and hold a service in washington and hill downtown los angeles, they put up a big tent and louis zamperini's life was falling apart. he was an alcoholic. he was -- his marriage was failing. his wife had already filed divorce papers. she was leaving him. but she went to hear my father. this young man no one heard of. she gave her heart to jesus christ and her life was changed. and she came back and said i gave my life to gee vus christ and i'm not going to divorce you. he was thrilled and excited about. that she asked him to come hear -- finally she kept pressuring him and he came.

dangerous than stomach aches and early heart attack,s and that is the fact we're still basically pail owe listic in our minds and the way our brains are constructed and our instinctive patterns. i would call our species dysfunctional because, one, we have paleolithic emotions. i don't think they've changed since the early homo sapiens of 200,000 years ago. we have medieval institutions that we still depend on, and we have god-like power. now, that is a very dangerous and unstable combination. [laughter] and that's what where we are now as a species. >> fair enough. [laughter] >> he didn't say expatientuate please. [laughter] >> one of the other areas i wanted to touch on, you talk a fair bit about religion, and you've talked about it in your past work. your book would leave one with the impression that you're not terribly fond of religion as a force of meaning for humanity and so i'm wondering if, you know you don't think that religion necessarily gives us that sense of meaning and that we might have outgrown sort of the cohesion and the tribal aspects of religion that made it so evolutionarily

data, the big miss, bringing down the fourth quarter estimate, cnbc wrap it up done by moody's ap listicsn 0.2 to 3.2%. still not a bad number coming off the five in the third quarter but erasing hopes we're going to get to 4% which some had out there. some still holding out, 2.5 to 4.2 is our range. here's where they are, deutsch bank at 4.2%, they don't change their number. barclay's at 3.5, jpmorgan credit suisse at 2.9, should be morgan stanley i'm sorry there, and goldman sachs at 2.5% there at the bottom, most pessimistic of all. still more date to come, the number could get revised, tracking 3.2, not it too bad off the 5 in the third quarter. >> all right. thanks so much for that update, steve liesman. when we come back we will keep talking about growth because american businesses are expecting 3.5% growth through the middle of this year. what about the longer term outlook. tom donahue will join us with his economic outlook and the chamber's 012015 agenda. "squawk alley" will be right back. financial noise financial noise financial noise bulldog: through monday, save up to 40% on c

and i feel as strongly about it after all the experiences and more idea listic perhaps now than i did -- than i was back then. >> thank you. let me continue with this libe of questioning. the same question to each of the three of you. what personality trait do you think has been the greatest impediment to your success? or if you prefer you can tell us about a trait that you found helpful and you can decline to answer. let's start with you, clarence. >> you know, i have finally figured out -- i'm pretty much an introvert. and that turned out to be one of the traits that was enormously helpful. for working that out i thank my law clerks and susan cane for pointing out at least in her book on quiet, the traits that you have. i think that's been very helpful to me. because i've been able to sort things out. when i was teaching myself algebra, typing, or work ago lone it was persistance. i'm very comfortable with doing things over and over until i learn them. even here. i found law school enormously elusive. and learning -- going over reading the tax revenues and the tax regulations over a