russia and estonia and lithionia. and we are stuck with the i.r.s. that makes war and piece look easy. >>> and congress drilled so many loop holes and russia and estonia. you need a one party system to enact it. they'll will turn and twist it again. >> what about the special interest? there are billions worth of special interest. and how do you keep them away from filling a flat tax with holes. >> you are right about the special interest. h&r block sent a special mailing warning about the end of civilization. do it to reagan. you appeal of public opinion. >> when i -- testified on it the charlie rangel said the government's needs are greater than a flat tax. that's the attitude in congress. it needs an attitude adjustment. if russia and lithiana do it. >> you have a prosperous economy even washington gets more. >> jim, if poverty is less than 37,000 and the first 37,000 exempt from taxation how does it hurt the poor. >> you live in the bay area and you make less than 65,000. your idea of poor is more than the official definition. >> it is if you live