so might have just litten a fire under democrat. >> so, scott, mcconnell wouldn't even commit when askedis -- isn't it completely undermining democratic norms, when he is refusing to follow through on constitutional dutds? duties? >> well, i don't think it makes any-political sense for him to give anything to joe biden on a hypothetical question. regarding the senate in 2023, when we don't even know who is going to be in control. we have got a lot of runway between now and then. regarding 2024, he is simply following the same rules that he laid out in 2016. if the parties are split, between the white house and the senate, there's no confirmation. if the party is the same, like it was in 2020, then there could be a confirmation. that's been his view of the president going back to the late-1800s. and in 2024, if he is in charge and biden's in the white house. i -- i -- i expect he would do exactly what he did in 2016 and say we have divided government. we will have an election and -- and see what happens. so i think he is actually being really consistent here. regarding whether this motiva