liu xiaoming, thank you very much indeed. my pleasure. but yesterday's storms were quite impressive. nowhere immune from seeing several downpours. some of the showers were particularly impressive. from this cloud, the sign of very active convection in wiltshire. two pea sized hail falling from buckinghamshire and further north and scotland, we had this file dropping from the storm clouds in galloway. over the next few hours, they are still a few showers dotted around across england, wales, northern ireland and northern and western scotland. it's not too cold. we are mostly looking at temperatures around four to seven celsius. low pressure in charge of oui’ celsius. low pressure in charge of our weather as we head onto friday. it's another day where nowhere is immune from seeing a shower too. even parts of southern england, there will be showers driven by a brisk wind here. the heaviest showers to the day will be across northern ireland into southern scotla nd northern ireland into southern scotland and northern england. at the cross these

my guest today is china's ambassador in london, liu xiaoming.ina the villain or the hero of this pandemic? ambassador liu xiaoming, welcome to hardtalk. thank you — thank you to be with you again. we are delighted to have you on this programme at this difficult time. let me start with a very simple, direct question. do you accept that covid—19 has its origins in china? it was first discovered in wuhan. but i can't say it originated from wuhan. according to many information, many reports including bbc. it can be everywhere and anywhere. it can be in aircraft carriers. it could be found in the submarine. it can be found in some countries, it has very little connection with china. and also it can also be found in a group of people who have never been to china. so i couldn't say, we cannot say it has originated from china. ambassador, let me stop you there, because i am confused by that answer, because it clearly is a new virus that originated somewhere, it crossed, according to all the immunologists and the virologists, it crossed from animals to h

liu.s one of the best-known women business leaders in china and extremely intelligent who is clearly going to make this company even more successful as she continues to lead. ♪ we are here with jean liu who is the president of didi chuxing which is the biggest mobile transportation companies in china. in 2012, was started it was not the first, or only company, doing this. jean: there were 30 players doing exactly the same thing. david: did you have anything better than the other 29? what were your advantages to the other company? jean: we worked really hard. example, there were a lot of wheng competitors and there was competition we set down and thought about how we could provide better value. we launched for business lines businessmonths -- 4 lines in three months. we tried to catch up. david: there is another company in the united states called uber which are probably familiar with. jean: yes. david: it grew very quickly in the united states and other parts of the world. it also had a di

at the national institute of mental health and neurological sciences, and finally, from wuhan, by dr liutherapist who helped establish an online support system during lockdown. steven taylor, if i could maybe start with you. the virus is spread or it is contained according to what we do. how strongly we adhere to social distancing guidelines. and so, it would seem to me this is as much a psychological phenomenon as it is a physical one? very much so. people's decisions to adhere to social distancing is critical in managing this pandemic. and the longer the lockdown drags out, i would expect the poorer the adherence. but staying indoors for weeks on end with all the anxieties is a real mental battle, even more so if we're facing months of these lockdowns. exactly. we know that people are generally resilient, but a fraction of people are going to experience severe stressors during this pandemic. in addition to lockdown, people lose jobs, finances, lose houses, businesses go bankrupt, marriages crumble, and so we'd expect that a fraction of the population will develop severe mental disorder

ok, dr banerjee, dr liu and dr steven taylor, very interesting to hear your thoughts on mental health. thank you very much to all of you. that is it for now, before we go, here are some of the latest striking images from the last few days as the coronavirus continues to affect so many of us. a reminder that you can always keep up to date on the bbc news website. thank you for watching. hello there. yesterday was a warmer kind of day. again, plenty of sunshine for most of us, withjust a little bit of high cloud crossing the skies. we had some rather dramatic skylines, for example, in the shropshire area. now, it was the north—east of the uk that had the day's highest temperatures. durham and parts of aberdeenshire seeing highs of 21 degrees, but look at this drop in temperatures on the way through thursday. for some, it's going to be around 10 or 11 degrees cooler. the cooler weather is arriving with a cold front. it's this stripe of cloud that's sinking its way southwards across scotland right now, leaving the clearest of the skies and the lowest temperatures further south across engl

the person running that company is a young woman from china named jean liu. she is now the president of didi. she is one of the best-known women business leaders in china and an extremely intelligent and articulate person who is going to make this company more successful as she continues to lead it. with jean liu, the .resident of didi when it was started in 2012, it was not the first company. >> there were 30 players. doing exactly the same thing. betteryou have anything than the other 29? >> wework really hard. there were a lot of really strong competitors. they are big competition, we sat down together and think about with our strategy how we can provide better value. we launched for profitable business lines in three months. there were a lot of moments that we have worked very hard and try to catch up. company in ther u.s. called uber. it grew very quickly in the u.s. and it had a division in china. in many places, uber said we will roll over our competition. china you came to a deal where you merged and became the parent company. uber is an investor in y

ok, dr banerjee, dr liu and dr steven taylor, very interesting to hear your thoughts on mental health. thank you very much to all of you. that is it for now, before we go, here are some of the latest striking images from the last few days as the coronavirus continues to affect so many of us. a reminder that you can always keep up to date on the bbc news website. thank you for watching. hello there. yesterday was a warmer kind of day. again, plenty of sunshine for most of us, withjust a little bit of high cloud crossing the skies. we had some rather dramatic skylines, for example, in the shropshire area. now, it was the north—east of the uk that had the day's highest temperatures. durham and parts of aberdeenshire seeing highs of 21 degrees, but look at this drop in temperatures on the way through thursday. for some, it's going to be around 10 or 11 degrees cooler. the cooler weather is arriving with a cold front. it's this stripe of cloud that's sinking its way southwards across scotland right now, leaving the clearest of the skies and the lowest temperatures further south across engl

let's bring in kristie liu stout. new zealand's prime minister showing us how it was done. what was the key to her success in eliminating the virus? >> reporter: well, the keys were she moved quickly. they tested widely. and this was a leadership, it is a leadership that respects and relies on the advice of epidemiologists, scientists and disease experts. on top of that, they're not resting on their laurels. as she aid earlier today, they are not out of the woods just yet. the lockdown may be lifted but they're going from a level four alert to a level three alert. exactly what does that entail? the prime minister of new zealand addressed that earlier in a press conference. let's take a listen. >> so with more people going back to work today, we need to be even more vigilant at level three to limit any inadvertent spreading of the virus. we must continue to stay home when possible, including for work and education. please stay regional and limit nonessential travel. and even though you can expand your bubble, keep it as small as possible and exclusive. >> reporter: make no m

. ♪ we are here with jean liu, the president of didi, the largest mobile transportation company in chinane of the largest in the world. when didi was started in 2012, it wasn't the first or only company doing this, is that right? jean: there were 30 players doing the exact same thing. david: did you have anything that was better than the other 29? what were your advantages over the other companies? jean: we worked really hard. we worked really hard. for example, there were a lot of very strong competitors, right? there was big competition and we sat down together to think about what is our strategy and how can we provide better value? we launched four business lines in three months in 2015. there were a lot of moments that we worked really hard and tried to catch up. david: there is another company in the u.s. called uber, which you are probably familiar with. when uber started, it grew quickly in the u.s. and other parts of the world, and also had a division in china. in many places, uber said, we will roll over our competition. but in one country, they were not able to do that, and tha

not a problem for a particular country or a particular race or ethnicity >> and 16-year-old angelina liu a jr. at los altos high school started a gofundme to raise money for protective gear that will help healthcare workers. so far she's raised more than $10,000. >> this project gave us a sense of purpose. we're doing something. we have something. a goal to focus on. >> connect to people in our commune who can help and you can send your ideas to together. >>> speaking of donating, the siz of netflix is giving a big chunk of change to vaccine research. hastings is donating $30 million toward developing a covid-19 vaccine quicker and administering the vaccine when it's ready. the donation went to a nonprofit immunization organization founded by the bnd. hes to raise $7.4 billion. >>> there are changes ahead in the weather department. and here to tell us what they are. >> those changes include scenes that will be similar to what we saw today. it was blue sky for pretty much most of the bay area. first half of the day tomorrow, not gonna look like that. let me show you item we'll switch back

. >> angelina liu and friend dropped off 200 surgical masks to valley medical center in san jose andrted a gofundme a few weeks ago to raise that money. >> there is just so much of a need, there are so many hospitals that need it, and we're so grateful for the help we're getting and we're so glad we can help provide and at least do a little bit to support them. >> she is in high school. so far the teenagers have donated 7,000 masks. >>> now if you're looking to help out during this pandemic, we made it easy, log on to nbcbayarea.com and click on "our mm response" at the top of the home page and you'll find a link to contribute to silicon valley strong. so many people are stepping up in this moment of just so much angst for so many people. >> los altos hospital, my alma mater, makes me proud. >> lester holt is next and we'll see you again for 90 minutes of news beginning at 6:00 p.m. >>> tonight, coronavirus deaths now in all 50 states the toll more than 23,000 in america. over 10,000 dead in new york alone but the governor saying quote the worst is over if people stick to self-distan

the camera betty liu -- the camera, battery life, all of these things were really attractive to consumersre willing to pay $1200 for a phone, which is pretty high relative to how we used to think about it, but you are basically carrying around a pretty high-end computer. what i want that for my younger child? probably not. i think what they've done is broaden the market here, and made a very attractive product at the low end. and remember, apple is trying to drive more and more services revenue. if you think about what has happened with retail right now, when you go into the store, the last thing you want to do is stick a credit card into a machine that somebody else might have touched. who knows what the actual level is that people thing about that. with this lower end phone, you can walk in and do contactless payments with apple pay. ofhink there's a lot functionality and benefit that people will get from having the lower end iphone that, again, we'll just rotten -- will just broaden the market for apple as opposed to taking the negative tack, which is just that people are going to shif

in liu of sufficient testing, what i hear from the task force is that since we don't have enough tests, we can do surveillance by looking at the number of people who have this influenza-like illness. sure, you can monitor that but by the time you see an uptick from hospitalizations for people with flu-like simple toments, that's too late. that's a lifetime of several weeks we could have presented. by the time people end up going to the hospital, they're also going to get critically ill and die. we need to focus on capturing these individuals before they get so im. in order to do that, we need testing for individuals who have symptoms and are not sick enough to go to the hospital and be able to test anyone who wants a test. that may include employees. employers and companies may want to see until you get a negative test, you cannot go back to work. one can imagine when we get point of care testing, where the result is available in minutes. one can imagine a scenario when -- where an employee is tested right before they go to work and also testing teachers and children in schools on a re

the chinese ambassador to the united kingdom, liu xiaoming, is speaking. climate change and the cancellation of events like the cop meeting which is designed to address the problem of global warming. we are enhancing our international collaboration and we are also fighting against this virus, and we should guard against the political barriers, as i said in my speech. some politicians and some forces try to use this to scapegoat and play a game of blaming in order to shake their responsibility. recall for the governments of countries to focus on fighting the virus, protecting the lives of people, rather than fighting each other, rather than stopping international collaboration which is very important. we are very disappointed and rejecting this so—called accusation by some american politicians. we don't think this information china serves the purpose of international response to this virus on china us relations, you know, we have every reason to have a sound and good relationship. president xi had several conversations with president trump. we always believ

. >> reporter: should & she's not alone. 16-year-old angelina liu, a junior at loss altos high school, started a gofundme page. she raised more than her goal of $10,000. but that was just the first challenge. >> i was, like, where can we get these masks? these hospitals, obviously, are having trouble finding them. how are we supposed to? >> reporter: but angelina also has connections. at 14, she created a clothing line to raise money to protect endangered elephants. so she used her clegg industry contacts to find a face mask supplier and her friends have donated 10,400 surgical masks to 11 bay area hospitals and health clinics. >> this project gave us a sense of purpose. we're doing something. we have a goal to focus on. something to get us through this challenging time. >> reporter: this generation which was supposed to be so tech-absorbed, so socially disconnected is discovering the awesome power that individuals now have to affect real change in the world. >> i think that there is definitely a lesson to learn from every struggle, from every hardship. >> reporter: just like in world

liu before we let you go, we want to ask you, people are very anxious to find a vaccine, because that will be key to restarting the economy. there are reports that germany is working with the u.s. to start human trials on a treatment yesterday. also american companies like johnson & johnson are partnering up to work on vaccines. what are you hearing, where do things stand in terms of where we are on all of that? >> i think clearly, one of the most important ways to contain the disease and prevent other people from being infected by this virus, i think at this moment the good news is that there is a lot of money and funding and effort put into the vaccine. i truly believe that vaccine will be developed. at the same time, what are we going to do in the absence of the vaccine. again, the point i am trying to make, the keyword is containment. that is very important before the vaccine is available. we need to continue to do what we have been doing, social distancing, and make sure no other people can be infected, especially elderly people with underlying conditions, those are really the hi

senator kamala harris and representative ted liu join me thursday 3:45 for a video summit on ways tolow and stop racially choorj attacks. to register, visit the link on screen or the social channel. stick around. "politicsnation" continues right after the break. ation" continuet after the break. fine, no one leaves the table until your finished. fine, we'll sleep here. ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win. however, there is one thing you can be certain of. the men and women of the united states postal service. we're here to deliver cards and packages from loved ones and also deliver the peace of mind of knowing that essentials like prescriptions are on their way. every day, all across america, we deliver for you. and we always will. who knows where that button is? i don't have silent. everyone does -- right up here. it happens to all of us. we buy a new home, and we turn into our parents. what i do is help new homeowners overcome this. what is that, an adjustable spanner? good choice, steve. okay, don't forget you're not assisting him. you hired him.

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>>it's can paul loo day liu's wife caress of receiving a proclamation from san mateo county supervisor david kind of a chorus is strength and passion as described by her husband is what has been keeping him alive is impossible to describe it to put the word. the pain honestly, the shock. the uncertainty clarissa was not sure if this day would come fearing the worst can called her from the hospital last month and said babe don't let me die at that it was a bit of a shock and if they hear him say they don't let me die because you never expect when you leave your husband at a hospital that you're not been that there's a potential that you may never see him again. >>the will to live driving the diabetic 38 year-old father of 2 to beat the odds today is a day of celebration. >>today is a day of a family. coming together and supporting each other. >>watching from his window cars and trucks roll down the street in front of his home, it was the honking horns and waving signs of the bay, don't let me die parade. it was the sounds of victory but for this the war isn't over yet. the drive down th

. >> and with social distancing rules still in place, even liu's dog helping with those deliveries, pretty cute there. >>> an nbc bay area exclusive, state agents rated three different locations in alameda county, seizing stockpiles of medical masks. these are the n95 and surgical masks doctors and nurses desperately need. 20 state agents were walking in and out of this facility in fremont. we spoke with the person under investigation. he says that he started selling those masks about a month ago and then rented that space at the facility. the man claims he has a seller's permit california but agents said he didn't have a license and they seized 50,000 of those masks. >> i have all the records, like my price from my suppliers and the price of the sales. >> the man claims he purchased the masks on ebay before mask sellers were shut down and he actually sells them to nonprofits. he says that he has been not been fined nor cited yet. the attorney general's office confirmed they executed three search warrants in ail had an immediate did alameda county. we're working to learn more details for y

>>it's can paul loo day liu's wife caress of receiving a proclamation from san mateo county supervisor david kind of a chorus is strength and passion as described by her husband is what has been keeping him alive is impossible to describe it to put the word. the pain honestly, the shock. the uncertainty clarissa was not sure if this day would come fearing the worst can called her from the hospital last month and said babe don't let me die at that it was a bit of a shock. >>and the fed hear him say they don't let me die because you never expect when you leave your husband at a hospital that you're not been that there's a potential that you may never see him again. >>the will to live driving the diabetic 38 year-old father of 2 to beat the odds today is a day of celebration. >>today is a day of a family. coming together. and supporting each other. >>watching from his window cars and trucks roll down the street in front of his home, it was the honking horns and waving signs of the bay, don't let me die parade. it was the sounds of victory but for this the war isn't over yet to the drive d

i want to bring in ben white and chris liu, deputy labor secretary during the obama administration, now a senior fellow at the university of virginia. let's get your reaction to these jobless claims. we've heard the economy is just going to snap back. when you've got now in the last few weeks over 15 million people on unemployment, what does the future look like to you economically? >> stephanie, these numbers are staggering. we've never seen anything of this magnitude. and there's good reason to believe these numbers are going to continue at this pace for the foreseeable future since a lot of the large states like georgia and florida and texas have only recently implemented stay-at-home orders. but i think what it raises broader questions about whether we're really going to get this v-shaped recovery that some people are predicting. and i think a lot of it is going to depend on how much longer the economy stays closed, whether we're able to get the small business loan program functional to pull some of these people off the unemployment rolls and hopefully keep them on company payrolls.

pride yesterday was really a wake-up call that we could be in thisuc longer than many of ous would liusoutside lands that brings 22,000 each summer could be the next big event to cancel. opera also canceled and major uncertainty around major league baseball in the bay area. the 2020 nfl draft is scheduled for next week, but if it will kickoff in september ian guess.t l w>>ow on a ccert wearing a mask? how comfortable are you in a restaurant with other people. there are rules and then the comfort level. ultimately, i think comfort level decides not only what we do here, but what we do else where. >> just yesterday, governor newsom in his daily address the prospect of mass gatherings is negligible at best until we get herd immunity and get a vaccine. we know the time table for both of those things are many, many months away. reporting from home, julian glover, abc7 news. >> julian, thank you. >>> governor newsom also talked about getting kids back in school and, once again, he did not set a firm date, but he did hypothesize about what it could look like once classes are resuming. >> to co

in liu of sufficient testing, what i hear from the task force is that since we don't have enough testswe can do surveillance by looking at the number of people who have this influenza-like illness. sure, you can monitor that but by the time you see an uptick from hospitalizations for people with flu-like simple toments, that's too late. that's a lifetime of several weeks we could have presented. by the time people end up going to the hospital, they're also going to get critically ill and die. we need to focus on capturing these individuals before they get so im. in order to do that, we need testing for individuals who have symptoms and are not sick enough to go to the hospital and be able to test anyone who wants a test. that may include employees. employers and companies may want to see until you get a negative test, you cannot go back to work. one can imagine when we get point of care testing, where the result is available in minutes. one can imagine a scenario when -- where an employee is tested right before they go to work and also testing teachers and children in schools on a regu

>>it's can paul loo day liu's wife clarissa receiving a proclamation from san mateo county supervisor david kind of a addresses strength and passion as described by her husband is what has been keeping him alive is impossible to describe it, but the word, the pain honestly, the shock. the uncertainty clarissa was not sure if this day would come fearing the worst can called her from the hospital last month and said babe don't let me die at that it was a bit of a shock. >>and the fed hear him say they don't let me die because you never expect when you leave your husband at a hospital that you're not been that there's a potential that you may never see him again. >>the will to live driving the diabetic 38 year-old father of 2 to beat the odds today is a day of celebration. >>today is a day of a family. coming together and supporting each other. >>watching from his window cars and trucks roll down the street in front of his home, it was the honking horns and waving signs of the bay, don't let me die parade. it was the sounds of victory but for this the war isn't over yet the drive down th

and then chris liu, a senior fellow here at the miller center. and he has worked in over the years all three branchs of government, and i don't know how many people can say that truthfully at least, including seven years in the obama administration. so what we'll do is what we did the first time around, which is to take the cartoons from each of the presidencies in sequence, and all of them are oliphant creations that are now part of the university of virginia's special collection library, and are available in many cases for you to go see, either there or over at the miller center where they a there are some others. we'll start with this cartoon. >> all right. for those of you who can't read that far back, because i know it is a little difficult, you george bush on the top, and what they try to sell, and then as he is perceive and then dukakis what they tried to sell and then as he is perceived, and then it says altered egos and i can't read. can anybody else read that? >> i got it. >> okay. yes, here you go. >> altered egos or how we think of th

senior fellow at the university of virginia miller center, chris liu. obama administration. ceo of gen youth, alexis glick. they conduct research for school wellness. stephanie ruhle, these numbers are grim and what do they tell us? >> well, these numbers aren't really representative of sort of how brutal the picture is because, remember, it is a full backward-looking picture from last month before this thing really hit. the number that is the most relevant without a doubt is yesterday's jobless claims topping 6 million. think about this. yesterday's number of just above 6 million is even worse because in the last week we know thousands, if not millions of americans, have been desperately trying to log on to their state's websites, call unemployment offices so they can file for unemployment, but they haven't been able to. it is not the fault of any of these states. people want to offer these unemployment benefits, but the surge is just unmanageable. so the number is brutal, and what it tells us is that for any of those states out there who say, oh, this

carne lius garcia spent much of the day at the bed of his father wi willie friloux. >> i see the guyhat raised me, that brought me into this world. i can still stand next to him and say my peace before he goes. >> reporter: the organization heart of hospice has set up inside of east jefferson general hospital in metairie, louisiana. here, two family members per day are given ppe and allowed to be present at the bedside. the nurses help connect those who can't be here. louisiana's governor says hospitalizations are declining in the new orleans region, which is a hot spot for covid cases. and is now where compassionate care guarantees that patients will not die lone. heart of hospice provided us with a video with the permission of the family. one of the most haunting things about this vicious disease is the thought that so many family members are dying alone. and so for those families in louisiana, to die with their loved ones at their side is really a game changer, and it means so much to those families. >> i can imagine, david. that's one of the toughest parts of this whole thing for

let's talk more about this with senior fellow at university of virginia miller center, chris liu.tment banker, peter solomon. he has advised numerous companies on all corners of the retail sector as well as serving as director of more than ten public companies. let me start with you on these numbers, chris, 3.84 million. these are people, not statistics. this is happening in our country right now, a lot of people hurting. do you see this slowing down any time soon? >> you know, i think we will see the numbers elevated for the foreseeable future. to put it in context, even the 3.8 million figure, which is lower than what we have seen in previous weeks, is still six times higher than what we saw in the great recession. these 30 million people out of work essentially wipes out all of the jobs created since the great recession and several million more on top of that. i think the problem is that these numbers even underrepresent the severity of the problem. we continue to hear people not being able to navigate the state unemployment systems. we continue to hear people not getting benef

. >> all right, stephen liu with methodology out of concord we thank you for what you've done and thosethe front lines thank you as well. >> thank you for having me on. >> that's nice to see, marcus. here is something good from people who aren't doctors but play doctors on tv. take a look at this video trying to say thank you to the real-life heroes. >> i want to thank all the doctors and nurses, the real ones. >> they brought together other stars for a big thank you and posted to social media asking everyone considering to donate supplies to first responders. we're seeing a lot of that giving spirit across our nation. nice to see. >> doogie houser right there. >> very cool. we're hoping to see some sunshine. kari? >> we had a lot of sunshine yesterday. our view over san jo. the light rain moving through. temperatures will be very nice. it's starting to warm up just a little bit. that will be the trend as we go through the week but once again still tracking some of the light showers that will remain especially as the storm system affects a big chunk of southern california and we're just