blunt, john curran, dan sullivan as well as kevin mccarthy and representative steve scalise and liz cheney. all coming.e you a very big moment. i want to thank congress for answering my call to pass this critical funding. the bill includes, as you probably know, $320 billion to refill the paycheck protection program helping keep millions and millions of american workers on the payroll. great for small businesses and the workers. $30 billion to the paycheck protection funds will be reserved for small financial institutions including those minority and distressed communities. extend vital relief to african-americans and has panic

republican congresswoman liz cheney of wyoming joins us.ou are in the capital congresswoman, and i know this big vote is not happening. i do want to pick up on something, and that's aid for farmers and ranchers in this bill. can you talk a little bit about the specifics for that group of people. >> we are facing as you know huge challenging for tag producers across the country for a range of reasons. in a number of cases as you mention some of the processing plants to shut down. our farmers and ranchers need help and they need it now, they needed it yesterday. we need to get them some additional support, but it's not enough. the fact that we have had to wait this long now for reinvigorating and refunding the ppp program is completely unacceptable. it has been over a week since that program ran out of money and the fact that we have waited and waited because the democrats have been blocking it, that something that they will have to explain to the american people. hopefully we will be able to get this passed tomorrow and be able to get people

liz cheney, who is a rare voice on something like this. we see this from time to time, someone will speak out or take issue with the president. but in general the party as a whole, the leaders as a whole have been quite timid in doing that. i think, as you talk to republicans about all these issues, they acknowledge that the president is in no way a traditional conservative, yet they recognize also that he has completely changed the nature of the republican party and they are, in a sense, hostage to the takeover that he exercised in 2016 and continues to exercise now. i think that tension is going to continue. we will see it in a variety of debates coming out of this in terms of what kind of spending is called for and what kind of programs are advocated. we'll see it in the fight over the deficits that are being created here and where the president is probably in a different place than many traditional conservatives. they are kind of stuck, frankly, in how they deal with this, and we have seen nothing over 3-plus years to suggest there is

here is liz cheney from wyoming. nancy pelosi and senate democrats are blocking small business relief. his is despicable. and nancy pelosi did an audio briefing for reporters yesterday. and here's what she had to say about small business. >> on tuesday morning, secretary mnuchin called, that would be two days ago, secretary mnuchin alled and asked for a water of a trillion dollars in 48 hours. with no data. just a quarter of $1 trillion in 48 hours. peter mcconnell honored that request, i said honored, really, dishonored the needs that we have put a stunt on the floor of the senate to esting that $250 billion no data as to why we needed and the rest. when they are outstanding needs, we should have been doing and what we offered to do was to sit down and figure out what the numbers are that are needed most urgently. and so you may have seen this morning that the stunt was performed by the leader knowing that it would fail and in good faith proposal to negotiate and address the immediate needs that we have put forth by

and tom cotton and liz cheney were called alarmists by their republican colleagues in particular.n fairness to those of us who didn't have access to the information, it did seem the notion of closing down new york city like they did in china to wuhan was impossible to wrap our minds around. but we didn't have the access to information that people like tom cotton did. and the fact that the intelligence community had information that was very cleary putting them and putting the u.s. government on the path to understanding how bad it was or if not how bad it was, how much the chinese were covering up, and at the same time, the president of the united states was doing happy talk about the chinese response, about the w.h.o. that he is now using as a scapegoat. it's remarkable. i mean, i remember sitting in the impeachment trial in the united states capitol, john, watching tom cotton with his fidget spinner because he was,uous know, kind of trying to pass the hours during the impeachment trial. well, it turns out when he wasn't doing that, he was reading important intelligence briefings

blunt, john curran, dan sullivan as well as kevin mccarthy and representative steve scalise and liz cheney. all coming.e you a very big moment. i want to thank congress for answering my call to pass this critical funding. the bill includes, as you probably know, $320 billion to refill the paycheck protection program helping keep millions and millions of american workers on the payroll. great for small businesses and the workers. $30 billion to the paycheck protection funds will be reserved for small financial institutions including those minority and distressed communities. extend vital relief to african-americans and has panic american small business owners and their employees. $30 billion of the paycheck protection funds. that is really having to do very much with extending vital relief to thousands of african-american and hispanic american people and -- people in this country that are so great but have been so badly hurt. they are great people that have been badly hurt. injurylion to economic disaster program. to small provide loans businesses and farms. very important farms. $75 billio

insisting he has this authority and he does not and even constitutional scholars and rand paul and liz cheney both tweeted, no, the federal government does not have absolute authority here making clear positions on that. and the president is continue sh -- continuing to push it. we'll see if he continues to do so at the press conference in a few hours. the president is focusing on the economy and preparing to announce that second task force that we told you about last week. though, brianna, even though it is supposed to be announced today, it is unclear exactly who is going to be on it. we know there was a consideration for a mix of administration officials and private sector folks but it is still unclear who has formally signed on with this task force. to give you a sense of that, yesterday the president said ivanka trump his daughter and senior adviser and jared kushner were not going to be on it. though we were told last week that ivanka was going to be on it. so it is still very fluid and we're waiting to see who is on it and exactly what their view of what it is going to do is. >> we'll

but here is the thing, you have a situation where even the republicans, liz cheney, marco rubio are sayingquestion. he does not have the authority to override the governors, it is an embarrassment. >> judge jeanine: that is not quite what i said, what i said is that there are inherently shared powers. this is not something that is uniquely identified in the constitution. dana, i will have you have the last say. >> dana: i know that we are running out of time, let me say this. the president wisely rejected the idea that he was going to be responsible for a national shutdown. and he wisely did that. so i don't understand why he would want to turn that around, because i think you can get guidance from the white house, but the governors are going to make the decisions and there will be fallout. he does not want his take the responsibility, because governors are supposed to. i would say this, some of the governors are way out in front. governor newsom laid out a six-point plan, said that these are the five or six things that have to happen in order for us to have a rolling return to reopen the

but even republican congresswoman liz cheney tweeted, the federal government does not have absolute power. what's more strange, the president said he was leaving social distancing decisions to the governors less than two weeks ago. >> why not take the power out of the hands of the governors and you just issue a stay-at-home order for every state in this country? >> states are different. so you have to look -- you have to look at -- you have to give a little bit of flexibility. >> reporter: even as the flexibility is assembling a new working group for advice on reopening the u.s. as early as may 1st, one of the administration's top health experts, dr. anthony fauci, is raising questions about the nation's readiness, telling the associate press more coronavirus testing is needed, saying, quote, we have to have something in place that is efficient and that we can rely on, and we're not there yet. fauci went on to describe the may 1st goal as a bit overly optimistic. the doctor is still offering words of caution one day after the president defended his decision to tweet out a social media pos

pushback, not just from democrats but also from republicans, a number of prominent conservatives like liz cheney, the congresswoman, like other constitutional scholars including those who defended him in the past said, look, the president doesn't actually have this authority, doesn't have the power to order a state to reopen when it doesn't feel like it's ready to do so. and the public health experts on his team clearly shaped this set of guidelines they put out tonight because it didn't try to mandate one size fits all for the states. it didn't even use any dates. it simply laid out a series of conditions, and they were of course non-binding, meant to guide the states and the cities as they make their own decisions. many of the criteria that they used are similar to what the states were already looking at. so it's a pretty big shift from monday to thursday and one i think left a lot of governors feeling a little relieved that they didn't have to have a further confrontation with the president. >> robert costa, i could be convinced the cleft going on behind the scenes is a familiar one. think of

senator rand paul and congresswoman liz cheney posted these tweets, saying the federal government doeshave absolute power, though they didn't mention the president. >> you're so disgraceful. >> reporter: the coronavirus briefing at the white house monday quickly turned into an aggressive defense of trump's leadership. angered by an extensive report in "the new york times" that highlighted his inaction, he played a propaganda-style video to highlight what they have done. but the video largely glossed over the month of february and highlighted no steps trump took then to slow the spread. >> i said in january. >> there's a complete gap. what did your administration do in february with the time your travel ban bought you? >> a lot. >> what? >> a lot. part of it was up there. we did a lot. look, look. you know you're a fake. you know that. >> reporter: in february, the president did continue to hold campaign rallies and often downplayed the virus. trump says he'll announce a second task force focused on reopening the country today although it's still not clear who is on it or what exactly i

so congresswoman liz cheney tweeted out the powers not delegated to the united states in the constitutionbited by it so the states are reserved for the states respectively or to the people. she tweeted that out. and then jonathan turley who is the constitutional law professor who was the sole witness for the republicans during the impeachment process, the inquiry, he said president trump stated that when somebody is president of the united states his authority is total. the constitution was written precisely to deny that particular claim. it also reserved to the states an individual's rights not expressly given to the federal government. just interesting to hear that people felt so strongly to denounce the president. >> alisyn, the law is full of ambiguities and unsettled questions. this is not one of them to. this is really very, very clear. and it really goes to the heart of how the constitution is set up. the federal government only has the powers that are spelled out in the constitution. if it's not spelled out in the constitution, it goes to the states. that's been true since john ma

congresswoman liz cheney is very concerned we don't repeat the problems we had with larger companies and those that weren't companies at all like harvard and dolman on on shake shack which is not a small concern. she wants to avoid that and make sure that it is very, very clear, this is for small business folks. good to see you. >> for to be with you. thank you for having me. >> neil: are you convinced, congresswoman, that this has been tightened a little bit come out that we can avoid some of these companies that here for shouldn't have gotten this money, because they are a little too big don't do it again? >> we actually have now hates different oversight entities if you include the standing committees, if you include the oversight entities that we approved in the last round and that cares act. we do have to make sure that their businesses and the entities, harvard university that should not have this money you don't get it. i think that's very important. but i think there's a really solid set of institutions and committees already in place to do that. this bill that's going on rig

48 hours to watch the silence among republicans, very few other than people like lynne cheney -- liz cheney, pressed back against the president. this is a fundamental tenant of conservatism, or it has been for decades, that in fact the 10th amendment reserves most of the powers to the states, not the federal government. and here's the president who, as claims sweeping powers that do not exist, rewriting the constitution. it was an extraordinary moment as we saw the president's constitutional no nothingism unchallenged by a party that off tries to wrap itself around the constitution. >> michelle? >> you know, it's interesting to listen to the president speak at a moment where the country so badly needs stability and the notion of having someone having a steady hand on the helm. instead one day he says he has total authority, the next basically saying carry on, governors. you're seeing a president who deflects, demeans, and denounces others as opposed to taking responsibility. you didn't hear him talk at all about the long lines at food banks. you didn't hear him talk about the specifics of w

here is liz cheney from wyoming.ancy pelosi and senate democrats are blocking small business relief. his is despicable. and nancy pelosi did an audio briefing for reporters yesterday. and here's what she had to say about small business. >> on tuesday morning, secretary mnuchin called, that would be two days ago, secretary mnuchin alled and asked for a water of a trillion dollars in 48 hours. with no data. just a quarter of $1 trillion in 48 hours. peter mcconnell honored that request, i said honored, really, dishonored the needs that we have put a stunt on the floor of the senate to esting that $250 billion no data as to why we needed and the rest. when they are outstanding needs, we should have been doing and what we offered to do was to sit down and figure out what the numbers are that are needed most urgently. and so you may have seen this morning that the stunt was performed by the leader knowing that it would fail and in good faith proposal to negotiate and address the immediate needs that we have put forth by t

secretary mnuchin, the sba administrator, a number of lawmakers including steve scalise, it looks like liz cheney, kevin mccarthy, the republican leader in the house, they detail the money that is being sent out to cover hospitals, community health centers to small business relief, he did talk a little bit about his own task force saying we don't get the credit that we should and he also said something that he's echoed in the past that they are delivering more than the necessary goods and where the king of ventilators, a number of states have been calling for tens of thousands of ventilators in the federal government led by the president task force got them all going and that is not nearly as many needed. which is probably a good thing but the federal government was there and the president saying the task force and he were there as well, when the tape gets into our hands we will play that for you. please don't worry about that. i want to take a look at the corner of walt, to debut drive king debuting today, not doing that poorly if we take a look at it right now, the online betting house right no

but senator tom cotton and liz cheney said all along investigate what happened at that lab. and now the world is coming around to look at it. i expect them to push back today. but i hope the world can unify and demand transparency, ainsley. ainsley: sources say it was not created as a bioweapon. many are questioning that they say it was a way to common demonstrate better identifying identifying and combating viruses than the united states is. this is increasing confidence that the virus likely originated in this lab and not the wet markets. these are sources. we requested information about these sources, about this information, but there are people in the intel community in washington. there are people inside the administration that are a little bit more skeptical about this report. so we have to, you know, cover that side of the story, too. but, what all source does agree with and the administration agrees with as we heard from mike pompeo there was clearly a cover-up of data and information. it's just a mat of finding out what that was and if it was created in a lab and if

brian: you were the first one to say it along with liz cheney what's going on over there this is goingng on and i know you are not giving up. senator tom cotton, thanks so much. >> thanks, brian. brian: all right. still ahead, tornadoes and i can't believe, this tearing across the south last night killing at least 17 people. including six from georgia. a live report from atlanta next. texas governor greg abbott could ease his state's lockdown to restore people's livelihoods. is that a good idea? lara logan joins us on the ground in texas next. ♪ more than ever, your home is your sanctuary. that's why lincoln offers you the ability to purchase a new vehicle remotely with participating dealers. an effortless transaction- all without leaving the comfort- and safety of your home. that's the power of sanctuary. and for a little extra help, receive 0% apr financing and defer your first payment up to 120 days on the purchase of a new lincoln. ♪ why accept it frompt an incompyour allergy pills?e else. flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist

liz cheney felt the need to tweet yesterday evening. "the federal government does not have absolute power." she quoted from the constitution, "the power is not delegated to the united states by the constitution, nor prohibited to the states, a reserve to the states respectively, or to the people." i think the president really, at this point, is going to find that he is going to hit a wall if he thinks that he is king of america. it's not how it works. >> i wonder if donald trump knows -- i don't wonder. that's a rhetorical question, whether it's the 10th amendment. i had that hanging outside my office at the 127 cannon office building. good to know republicans still believe that. >>> ahead, the governor of new york, andrew cuomo, joins us. >>> first, we reported on the "uss theodore roosevelt" last week, after its commanding officer was fired for warning about the coronavirus spreading on board his ship. now, a sailor is dead. some 600 are sickened with the virus. we'll talk to retired four-star admiral jam adderall next on "morning joe

that's the amendment that liz cheney cited after donald trump talked about his total authority.got to say, if the last two weeks haven't completely made null and void the 25th amendment, if a president behaving this way while a pandemic sweeps across our country and kills more people, actually, than died in the vietnam war, and the president just said a couple months earlier that it was just one person coming from china. it'd be swept away. 1 11 or 15 people. let me just say, the 25th amendment is de facto abolished. i'm not -- of course, we have an election coming up. i'm not saying that this is what democrats should push for. >> no. >> it'd only distract. i'm just saying, like my con law professor said about the tenth amend. the massive growth of government, in effect, made void, for all practical purposes, the tenth amendment. you can add the 25th amendment to that right now. this president is behaving in a way that is so dangerous, extraordinarily irrational, in the middle of a pandemic that is changing history, that is destroying our economy day by day, that's killing peopl

. >> where, other than liz cheney and a few other republicans, where are the, quote, constitutionalists. >> they'll have to live with that. their children and grandchildren will look at them in history as those who followed him into a very bad direction, pushed him. >> he was speaking like a totalitarian leader, and they said nothing about it. >> yup. yesterday, the president tried to flex that power yesterday, trying to get nominees into senior positions and on the federal bench without senate approv approval. the constitution allows a president to adjourn congress if house and senate leaders can't agree on whether to adjourn. that's not the case here. no president has ever used that power. >> we have a tremendous number of people that have to come into government. now, more so than ever before, because of the virus and the problem. we have to do it. we have to do whatever we have to do. >> earlier, last month, you were in the oval office talking about now is not the time for partisanship. how will that act lower the p t partisanship in this town, and could it hinder your ability to ge

cheney, he's steven yates. great to see you again, thanks for coming on. >> thank you, liz, my pleasure.hat this is what's happening now, we're watching it unfold in europe and asia, we're seeing it in south america and in places like brazil. we're seeing it in malaysia, singapore. they're saying, china, this is your fault. but democrats here and the media saying this is the president's fault. nancy pelosi says the outbreak of covid-19 is the president's fault, so does senator chris murphy of connecticut. also there are attacks on those who focus on the responsibility of china here. they're being attacked as mere, you know, trump supporters peddling conspiracy theories. your take on all of that. >> well, frankly, it's deplorable. they're parroting communist party propaganda talking points. it's something that they've said for years and years they would be opposed to. but there's really no political or ideological question at stake what the origin and problem of this virus are. we know it came out of wuhan, china, and that the government of china did two very malicious things that hurt ma