and we know that liz cheney is his number one target. but i will tell you this.and georgia. mitch mcconnell's candidate beat his candidate, in alabama, and in georgia, of course, two of his big targets, governor kemp and the secretary of state, both were comfortably supported in their republican primaries. so trump is now moving on, because he's wounded. he is suffering some wounds, not just in alabama and georgia but also in north carolina, with representative cawthorn, so trump is really going all in now, making sure liz cheney gets defeated. but the trend in the republican primary is not good for donald trump right now so maybe liz cheney does have a chance to survive. >> adrian, just hours after the mass shooting at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas, conspiracy theorists started spreading rumors that the attack was a false flag operation. how dangerous is it that posts from the friends of online communities are making the public fear? what can be done to rein in the misinformation? >> well, it is certainly disturbing to see. >> it the trend we saw start

even in texas. >> i should say at the rally in wyoming yesterday, there was a composite image of liz cheney crowd and an anti-bush. >> they got some boos. >> yes. >> a lot more tears. >> look. we were talking during the break how the kind of make-up of the parties in congress has shifted so dramatically. just in the 10/15 years we have been here so on and so forth. there is probably no better way to look at that in the republican party than george w. bush. the political class loved him, the elites loved him until 2006. how that has done a total 180 over the course of the last decade. >> really, it's because of trump. all of this is because of the power. >> it's accelerated. >> the populists, what started before. >> how can you be in l.a. and santorum capitalized. >> absolutely. >>> coming up next, democrats are blaming the nra for stalling gun safety laws. has the group, itself, become a paper tiger? as a musician living with diabetes, fingersticks canan be a real challenge. that's why i use the freeststyle libre 2 syste. with a painless, one-second scan i know my glucose numberers without

and liz cheney? these righteous republicans now? well, we might have the answer. reitbart isng reporting that is cheney's reelection campaign is working with a group called people first. their website indicates it's affiliated with far lefth democrat organizations such as president biden's as campaign arm planned parenthood and black lives matter. harriet hagaman is running to unseat liz cheney in wyoming and she joins us now. harriet, good to see you. i know the primaries coming up. the open primary coming up c in august, but liz cheney really is she's billed as thee principled republican .y. only a handful of them left,e' obviously, and she's passionate abouts january six and investigating that .th are you are surprised then she hasn't been more vocal about left wing protests that seem to be getting out of hand againstic supreme court justices?es >> well, laura , it's wonderfull to see t you again to be backnk to see t you again to be backnk thank you . i have beeni hav been stunned at her silence when you think l about what has actually happened in the lastee we

how do you see liz cheney bid for reelection going in the next couple of months?ese kinds of attacks? >> reverend, certainly liz cheney isn't the underdog. wyoming is a conservative state. trump is popular in wyoming and we know that cheney is his number one target. it will tell you this. donald trump is anxious and nervous. he got clobbered last week in alabama and georgia. mitch mcconnell's candidate beat his candidate in alabama, and in georgia of course, to his big targets, governor kemp and the secretary of state both were comfortably supported in their republican primaries. trump is now moving on, because he is wounded. he has suffered wounds and not just in alabama and georgia, but also north carolina where representative cawthorn -- trump is really going all in now, making sure liz cheney gets defeated, but the trend in republican primaries is not good for donald trump right now. maybe liz cheney does have a chance to survive. >> adrienne, just hours after the mass shooting at the robb elementary school in uvalde, texas, conspiracy theorists started spread

so much so liz cheney was reporting her colleagues.d to the white house or chief of, changer, alternate presented in a falsehood to the american people. their recording colleagues they are lying tool people. all because they're driven by this animosity towards president trump who i think was the best president we had certainly in our lifetimes and doing what he said he was going to do i don't know she is the one striving or who is driving it. i know we have yet to see the subpoena they've yet to serve up or we get it will take a look at it gotta be concerned about a committee that operates the way this committeees does. and the crazy activity they have engaged in. you just to be real concerned. maria: let me just say we have not heard a word out of liz cheney on inflation. not heard a word on liz cheney on the wide open border. some of these issues around joe biden's behavior has some of your colleagues talking about impeachment. spoke with congressman greg murphy on foxbusiness last week on a mornings with maria. listen to it greg mur

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. >>> there's no rino in america who's thrown in her lot with the radical left more than liz cheney. zy. it's why in two months from now the people of wyoming are going to tell her, liz, you're fired! get out of here. >> former president donald trump last night in casper, wyoming, taking on republican congresswoman liz cheney. and not exactly telling the truth. while cheney has come out forcefully against what trump did on january 6th, she continues to have one of the most conservative voting records in congress and there's no evidence that she's gone crazy. here to discuss that and more the editor of national review, ramesh ponnuru.e. "the new york times" national political correspondent and co-author of the bestseller "this will not pass," jonathan martin. and congressional correspondent rachel scott. we'll get to trump and the midterms, but first, donna, first, after this discussion we just had with kinzinger and murphy, the tragedy in uvalde, coming right after the tragedy in buffalo, what's your sense, do you agree with the slight note of optimism that something might be done thi

maria: well, i mean, is liz cheney spearheading this? unfortunate r effort to -- the effort to haul you in? >> you know, i don't know. i do know i actually in some ways feel bad for these people who become so consumed with their hatred for president trump that you can almost just sense the bitterness that they have of. so much so that liz cheney was actually recording her colleagues. adam schiff took a text message that i had forwarded to the white house chief of staff, changed it, altered it, presented it in a false way to the american people. so they're reporting colleagues, they're lying to people all because they're driven by this animosity towards president trump who i think was the best president we have had in our, certainly in our lifetimes in doing what he said he would do. i don't know if she's the one driving it or who's driving it. all i know is they have yet to serve the subpoena. when we get it, we'll take a look at it, but you've got to be concerned about a committee that operates the way this committee does and has engage

liz cheney is the only republican willing to put it all on the line because of conviction.at this case and it's not a trial. it's public hearings for the purpose of educating the public, how do you sort of analyze this reporting on her focus on trump? >> i think in a lot of ways donald trump is -- has to be the focus because he is both a cult leader and a bully, and i think that congressman cheney is exactly right. if you cut off the fish's head, then, you know, the rest of the fish just wastes away. and you know, you have all of those rioters who were saying on the day of on video that we are following donald trump's orders. you have all these witnesses. you have all these defendants whose defense is i was just following my dear leader, donald trump. so yes, in very many ways january 6th was all about donald trump, and i think what these hearings really need to focus on in my view is less about the security breaches. i think the quote that, you know, the capitol didn't attack itself is very well put. the security issues, intelligence sharing issues, those are all -- those

liz cheney is fighting off a trump-backed primary challenger. obviously an outspoken and unwavering trump critic currently investigating the january 6th insurrection, framing the race as a referendum on truth and the rule of law. you'll be surprised to learn trump has a different take. >> there is no rino in america who has thrown in her lot with the radical left more than liz cheney. and it's why in two months from now the people of wyoming are going to tell her liz, you're fired. get out of here. get out of here. >> it's much more important than -- this is a symbol. >> he's not wrong on that. this is symbolic. there's perhaps been no more outspoken republican than liz cheney. he's not backed down in any way, shape, or form. in fact, this is what she just recently said. take a listen. >> i know something is wrong, and i will say so. i won't waiver or back down. i won't surrender to pressure or intimidation. i know where to draw the line, and i know that some things aren't for sale. i'm asking you to join me, to reject the lies, to rise above th

but yesterdy they rejected that request >>> in the aftermath of the deadly shooting in buffalo, liz cheney say accusing gop house members of enabling white supremacy and anti-semitism. law enforcement officials say the 18-year-old shooting suspect wrote and shared a manifesto online, promoting the idea of the great replacement there ritherey >> reporter: it has its roots in prance, popularized by a writer. he pushes lies about non-white immigrants wanting to make non-white-europeans extinct. it's a tenet of white supremacist ideology it's got a few main elements, including rhetoric about invasion by people of color, lies about voter replacement and anti-semitism. it's been referenced a lot, like at charlottesville and these white supremist lies influence others like 51 dead at a new zealand mosque 23 dead at a walmart in el paso or just this weekend in buffalo. ten people dead, killed because they were black. a theory once seen as fringe now alluded to in mainstream conservative circles like fox news. >> democrats plan to change the population of the country. >> reporter: to one of the top

. >> he created a sense of revenge against liz cheney. his brand is revenge.t is now. that's what trump is. they're out there running primaries against kemp for what they did in pennsylvania, overturn the actual results of an election administered by all republican statewide election officials. what is your sense of how much of this evidence the committee has of the plot to overturn the results out in the specific state, jackie? >> yeah, nicole. you know, i think just to make it clear to our viewers because i think sometimes people get a little bit confused and it can be confusing, but you know, the mission of the congressional committee that's investigating january 6th is truly a legislative purpose. they have to be careful not to appear too prosecutorial and look like they're collecting evidence to build a criminal case that is not the origins of the committee nor their ultimate responsibility and all they can do is really lay out the facts and gather all of this evidence and show it in a cohesive way to the department of justice to then run with that or mak

listen. >> there is no rhino in america who is thrown in her lot with the radical left more than liz cheneyone crazy with liz cheney support, the committee has turned the house of representatives into an instrument of political torment and repression. >> the message from the former president is clear. i just wonder what your reporting is on what cheney feels about this issue, is she worried it's hurting her. >> reporter: she is embracing it poppy, her int video last week talked about this threat to democracy of which she views donald trump as the biggest potential problem in that space and what is so interesting about this race in particular, in wyoming is it will be a true referendum on whether or not the future of the republican party is at its core just about the big lie, because what donald trump has been forcing many republican candidates to do is embrace that in exchange for his endorsement. in places like georgia, brian kemp rejected that but didn't go out of his way to attack trump, he tried to run a separate race. in this race, cheney is running against trump and specifically, agai

former president donald trump blasted republican congresswoman liz cheney on her home turf in casper,ast night. trump was speaking at a rally for cheney's primary challenger. mr. trump: liz cheney hates the voters of the republican party and she has for longer than you would know. wyoming deserves a congresswoman who stands up for you and your values, not one who spends all of her time putting you down, going after your president in the most vicious way possible. geoff: cheney has been a critic of trump, refuting his lies about a stolen 2020 election, and holding him accountable for helping incite the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol. the republican primary for wyoming's house seat is yet another test of donald trump's influence over the gop, after some of his high profile endorsents have failed. still to come on "pbs news weekend"... after the horrific events in uvalde, texas, a psychologist offers advice on how to talk to children about school shootings. and golden state warriors head coach steve kerr opens up about losing his father and how the experience made him a vocal advoc

because of the racially motivated nature of the crime, if it were proven. >> peter, republican liz cheneycritic of his house leadership, republican adam kinzinger singled out elise stefanik, for pushing this replacement theory rhetoric. do republicans have a problem here? well kinzinger and cheney might be, right their influence in their party has diminished. do republicans have to address or valve minute any of this? >> well, that's exactly, right there is a very small section of the republican party willing to talk about this, and they ought to think that people were talking about trumpism, and talking about january 6th, and the ones who think that something is wrong in their own party who are at the very least tolerating, if not actively encouraging versions of white supremacy, and things like that. i think that you have not heard of people from the party, nor president trump, who is the likely front runner for their nomination 2024, where the congressional leaders. that speaks to the state of affairs right now on the right. you have president biden go there tomorrow, and the question

look what happened to liz cheney.ry voters are matched with joe biden's number in the primary voters. you know, people liking zinger decide not to run. all of these folks. there is no room left in this. i think it's very important for us to sort of stop with this sort of dynamic of trump versus non trump, parts of the party. the party has become and moved past donald trump. it does if donald trump gave electricity to frankenstein. the monster woke up. and the monster, now, is running a way past donald trump and going down the road. and it's on its own. and that's the republican primary. that's the republican base, today. it has been related to donald trump. but, it is completely a monster of its own now. and i don't think anyone in washington, or any republican leader can control it. and that is what i think republicans are most worried about. >> okay, but here's the thing, juanita, we said the same thing about donald trump in 2016. he is too far out there. democrat said, bring it on, let's run against him. he's got n

and the tension that jonathan just described where a small number of republicans including liz cheneyase against donald trump, perhaps literally, and mitch mcconnell wants to move on and focus on the 2022 elections continues to hang over this primary season. you referred to ohio kicking off this big stretch of primaries. mitch mcconnell has a lot at stake. so does trump. the power of the trump endorsement is being tested in state after state. for mitch mcconnell, this could determine if he has a good shot at becoming majority leader again and maybe just as important, what kind of majority he would have. it is very, very possible that mitch mcconnell later this year will get his wish of winning back the senate majority, but the balance of power will be candidate's hand picked by donald trump, and that is not what he was hoping would happen last year when he told liz cheney it's time to move on from donald trump. >> and another gift of this book, folks watching at home, these are two of the best political reporters in the country. you also detail many great individual stories that get a

some members of your own party quoting liz cheney. liz cheney said that house republicans leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism history. what begins with words in's in far worse. republican leaders must renounce and reject these views and those who hold them. guest: i think republican leaders have denounced the use of rights of premises him. -- of right supremacy. i totally disagree. i do not think anyone in our conference has done anything but condone unnecessary violence, racism, any type of wrong. i fundamentally disagree with what liz said. there is no room for racism in america. host: james comer is our guest. we welcome your calls and comments. (202) 748-8000 is the line for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. all others, (202) 748-8002. there is a historian roll call about a meeting with kevin mccarthy and business leaders, house republicans make case for november victory at a roundtable on inflation. inflation affecting every american. what role will your party do differently on th

liz cheney, and adam kinzinger, called out republican leadership like at least a fonda of new york. hat people remembered her campaign committee ran facebook bands, parroting replacement theory last fall, warning of a permanent election insurrection. she tweeted the statement saying it was tragic, and a attacking the media for saying,, it is an advocate for a racist position. right after that, she wrote, democrats desperately want wide open borders, and mass access for illegal slowing them to vote. that is replacement theory. the dress down version, taking out the trigger words, but is it doubled on using great replacements to appear for politics. then, fox news, to mention the theory that they had been promoting, especially on prime time. instead, the network's most watched offender, tucker carlson, named who he thinks are the real victims of buffalo massacre. his perpetual victim viewers. >>? , what is hate speech? hate speech is speech that politicians hate. you are not allowed to express your political views out loud. that is what they're telling you. >> with me, charles, columni

liz cheney came out today and said it very clearly.jacked by these violent extremists as frank notes to perpetuate these attacks. it is real. it is happening. but we can't get to the root of it unless we acknowledge it. you mentioned fbi director chris wray. i've had conversations with him in the situation room and at vhs about this problem when we saw domestic terrorism on the rise. i'll mention three b's how to address this. if it was a foreign terrorist threat, that would be billions, bureaucracy, and belief. we would spend blts of dollars if it was a foreign terrorist threat. we would totally reorient the federal bureaucracy to handle it, but ultimately, we wouldn't be able to get to the core of it unless we focused on countermessaging, focused on preventing people from radicalizing in the first place. that's what this comes down to. that's what we were warning about years ago when during the trump administration we told the white house domestic terrorism is a ticking time bomb in this country. they ignored the time bomb. and guess

mcconnell found the whole liz cheney saga confusing, a cardinal sin, relinquishing power. why to willingly jeopardize host by continually condemning trump, just ignore like i do, quite telling about mcconnell. >> certainly is, and about liz cheney too. the two of them have a conversation at one point last year where she basically tells him, that is just not going to work. you can't just sort of avert your gaze from donald trump. if you're going to take on donald trump, get rid of donald trump, you have to take on donald trump and get rid of donald trump. so mcconnell's response at that point was, basically, i don't need any more lectures from you on how to deal with trump. the big mcconnell bet we outline in the book, a central part of the narrative is that after january 6th, he sees trump like many people, many democrats and more republicans than will say so in public, he sees trump as a threat to the american democracy and to the republican party. but once that immediate moment of most dire peril passes, he decides that the way he's going to try to deal with trump is to

a, do you think there's any chance that liz cheney could actually lose this primary, number one. in that cause? >> well, i think that obviously it's a very uphill fight for her. i think that it would be, again, naive to think that she -- that she is the front runner in that particular race. but i think that her national profile is going to be separate from this because unlike so many of her colleagues, liz cheney was willing to put her seat in congress on the line. you know, she was willing to stand up for what she thought was right. this is a woman of incredible strength, incredible integrity, even if you don't like her politics, and she's willing to lose to do the right thing. and if she does lose, she's going to be able to sleep at night and she's going to be able to hold her head up, but it certainly says a lot about a republican party that treats her like a pariah and embraces marjorie taylor greene as a rock star. >> lemire, you have a -- there's a -- you were talking about about 2024 and trump's standing. i want to read to you a little bit from some reporting in the "washi

people like liz cheney in the barth, it seems, and so these hearings are a chance for her to roll outd i do think she thinks that a strong republican party is necessary for american democracy to be successful and we're even hearing democrats say that, pelosiization said that recently so there are a lot of people who even on the democratic side they are rooting for liz cheney to bring back the party from trump if that can be done. >> yeah, and i mean i think there are people, you know, we know from your colleagues' tapes, we mow mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy see it the same way but won't say it out loud. it's an incredible moment in this, kneel, luke, eugene, thank you so much for starting us off this hour. >>> when we come back, we'll turn back to last night's primary elections and how they underscore what we've been talking about how extreme and potentially dangerous the republican party is getting in service to the ex-president's lie about the 2020 election. our friend, matthew dowd and cornell bauscher will be our guests after the break. >>> the battle from mariupol may be ove

a profile and encourage you does not quit, it is my honor to welcome congresswoman liz cheney to the 2002 john f. kennedy profiles encourage award. -- profiles encourage award. [applause] rep. cheney: thank, jack and thank you to the kennedy family. thank you to the board of the library. thank you to the nominating committee and the work committee for this profile encourage. -- and courage. i just wanted speak about rusty bowers and his family and his story. the grace and the compassion, and the courage that they have shown is unmatched. in the lesson that he gave us tonight, and that he has given us throughout is one that, as americans, we all benefit and are blessed by. so thank you very much. [applause] rep. cheney: i am so honored to be here tonight, and, honored because of a story in particular that most people don't know. and that is that on september 25, 1963, president john f. kennedy came to laramie, wyoming and he was speaking to thousands of students at laramie that day in the fieldhouse, and in that speech, which you can hear online and you can hear in the archives of the

it shaped liz cheney since then. you heard senator graham. he was not alone. a lot of lawmakers heard trump mention cheney by name and were appalled that he would do that before a crowd that turned out to be a mob. it put people's lives in jeo jeopardy. she has to have security service because of the threats against her as we detail in the book. a lot of the climate that the gop has fostered today, you can really trace back to that speech trump game the ve the morning o january 6. a lot of people in the old guard thought that that would be the tri trigger. finally, it would be okay to walk away from trump. the party would have had enough. it turns out that those leaders were wrong. they didn't get their votes. they were not tired of trump. they are still happily in his embrace anderson, it was moment af -- moments after that liz cheney says we need to impeach the son of a bitch. she was surprised to find how few were willing to join her. >> fascinating reporting. thank you. >>> a massive new aid package for ukraine features money for weapons, aid and medicine.

liz cheney very notoriously months and months ago didn't exactly rule that out. do we know anything more now? >> well, we don't know what a final decision is going to be on that. we knew that liz cheney more than any other member on the committee has been pushing a very aggressive tact against the former president and others on the committee, stephanie murphy, and others as well have moved the topic to other areas as well, say security at the capitol, various legislative reforms. cheney has focused the attention back on trump and what he did on that day and the days leading up to it. [ no audio ] a number of figures had firsthand testimony of what trump was doing, of what mike pence was doing. there still seem to be some questions lingering on who was going to willingly come in of the witnesses they want and how they should focus their final few weeks of the hearings. >> what are you focusing on in the final few weeks before the hearings start? >> the big question on the table here in congress is whether these five members of the republican party will come in thi

congresswoman liz cheney, offering some much-needed truth, during a time of so many dangerous lies.oken honesty taking us off the air tonight. and on that note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with us. i will see you at the end of tomorrow. >> tonight on all in. >> brian kemp is a turncoat. he's a coward, and he is a complete and total disaster. >> as republicans prepared to go to the polls in georgia, it's trump versus pence. the former president, backing one candidate for governor, the former vice president backing another. tonight, the future of democracy in georgia is on the ballot. and why for trump, it's personal. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. >> the impact of the threat to abortion, as texans head to the polls. and news tonight the january six committee will only hold six public hearings next month. i'll ask committee member, jamie raskin, about that. all in starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. we are just 11 hours away from polls opening in tomor

i'm going to do what liz cheney did and i'm going to condemn it. i think that's actually the most important thing for these elected leaders to do. yes, i am concerned about commentators, but when you start having elected leaders -- we've always had crazy commentators, but when this is mainstreamed and house republican leaders are spitting this trash out, i think you're right, you need to call them out. you want to get republicans like mitt romney and others to call this out, say absolutely no, no place for it in the party. let's go to the american dream. we always hear the american dream is dead. you don't think so. >> gallup doesn't think so. this is encouraging. in a new poll 70% of americans think the american extreme is very much alive. 80% of millionaires in this country are first generation people in this country. it's not just the money being passed down. 44% of all fortune 500 founders are either first generation or children of immigrants. so this whole notion that in some way the american dream is dead, it's quite the opposite. the america

the same way liz cheney still does. -- the alarming thing is that he saw his own caucus as a threat to the safety of other members. the alarming thing is that he thought donald trump had to go and that the only problem with the 25th amendment, while totally appropriate, was that it would, quote, take too long. kevin mccarthy's quote. and that he had to go either business resignation which kevin mccarthy said, he probably won't do, 25th amendment was going to take too long, or impeachment, which he said he knew would pass, would pass the house. what's alarming to me is that we sort of flowed along. we can't be at, you know, 10 on the richter scale every day, but he remains the most probable nominee in the republican party for president in 2024. >> yeah. i mean, this is the core point. this isn't over yet, nicole. and to go all the way back to your first question about what if january 6th succeeded? it reminds us there are real-world consequences. these aren't just games. and i think the most important substantive way is,

liz cheney was amazing, too. we do need to recognize that there are some people in the republican party that are worried also. they know this has gone too far. how many of them deserve a profile in courage right now? not enough. i do have to pay attention to the legislative races. >> i do think it's overwhelming to people to pay attention to the school bond vote and i have to pay attention to my governor's race and i have to vote in the midterm and the presidential and i have to worry about some joker in the state legislature in arizona because the variable isn't that the offices suddenly matter and the variables that the republican party have broken bad and been corrupted by tim foil wearing anti-democratic figures. >> is there a question? >> what would you do? what would you be putting on the cover of "time" magazine? >> every week. jim clyburn suggests the stuff is dangerous, but maybe autocracy is the future of the country. >> the jim clyburn thing depressed me because he's an optimist and he's fought for dem

an evidentiary hearing to make a hurdle and we all presumed that was from donald trump, and when liz cheneyom the statute of obstructing a proceeding is there any way that they'll look at members as potentially guilty of that crime? >> we know from the grand jury subpoena that the department of justice investigation that they are looking at the legislative branch, and specifically with the fake electors plot because if you have people that forged documents and falsified documents when another was true and sent those to the national archives and if members of congress had any hand in that at all, that could be a matter for investigation, and we know according to the committee that they have some testimony that there was a request for members of congress about a potential pardon and potentially that the congressman biggs was involved in some way in that request and that's one thing that the committee wants to ask them about and minority leader mccarthy has been consulting with an attorney so he may be concerned enough to certainly seek legal counsel. >> you know, a.b., it does require you to

i think there's a way for people to zag that is not liz cheney, and we just haven't seen people try it. >> that's a great point,, tim miller,, trip gabriel,, appreciate that. still to come, the january six committee wants to hear from's three more republican congress members and its investigation, an alleged effort to get a pardon from the president for oath keepers threatening to protect ronny jackson, while the events were unfolding, we're gonna go over the new information we got for those letters, just ahead. on january 6th 2021, the u. s. marine corps veteran and retired and ypg out of sir thomas webster showed up to storm the capitol. he was wearing a red and white jacket carried a metal flagpole, and your post officers at the metropolitan police department who are behind the barricades yearling at them using graphic language calling the police officers commies, and take off their protective gear. we're gonna show you body cam video of the entire interaction but for someone to walk through what happened because it all moves very quickly. according to complain from the department o

. >> there's liz cheney trashing trump again. didn't say that when she was running before.it. brit might not say it, but she's really a lobbyist. the alabama liz cheney. >> career politician moe brooks. did he always support donald trump? >> no. >> i was just asked if i was going to endorse trump. i said i'm not. did he trust trump? no. >> i don't think you can trust donald trump with anything he says. >> it is, you know, if you go back to 2015 and 2016 and what a lot of republicans said, and there's tape. >> you could use the whole hour to play all the things ted cruz said about donald trump, and every other republican. it's true. but it seems as though we'll see what happens with the actual results. it seems as though it is the issue is what you were saying that sort of maga voter is not the maga man. >> hit the pause for a second in this situation and take you to the pentagon. mark milley given an update on russia's war in ukraine including what weapons other countries are willing to bring to the fight. >> limits on how they can be used either in crimea or the donbas. an

wyoming congresswoman, liz cheney, was laying out so much needed truth, which she accepted.rmer guy. and we hope her fellow republicans or listening. here is just a portion of a very powerful speech. >> the sacred obligation to defend the peaceful transfer of power has been honored by every american president, except one but. standing on the is front of the united states capitol, on a snowy morning in 1961, president kennedy said, in the long history of freedom, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom, and it's hour of maximum danger. today, that role is ours as we face a threat we have never faced before. a former president, attempting to unravel our constitutional republic. at this moment, we must all summon the courage to stand against that. the question for every one of us is, in this time of testing, we need to do our duty. will we defend our constitution, will we stand for truth, will we put duty of our oath above partisan politics, or when we look away from danger, ignore the threats, embrace the lies, and enable the liar? as we leave he

president trump is out in wyoming stumping for anyone who will take down liz cheney. does the president's defeat in georgia lessen the impact of his endorsement and stamp of approval? amy: i vaguely have to judge this on all kinds of different measures. on the one hand, of republicans that voted to impeach the president, there are 10 of them, liz cheney is one of them. she has a tough road to come back to washington. this is the most republican state, give donald trump his biggest margin in the 2020 election, but those folks, many of them are coming back because they decided to retire, they've likely seen the writing on the wall. so he is going to have been responsible for purging a good 60%, 70% or more who voted to impeach him out of congress. on that measure, it's a success. however, what we are seeing like in georgia is just giving somebody your endorsemento play the role of retribution for his own loss, right, it was all about him and how he was wronged , that's not going very far. what other republicans who are looking at 2024 c is maybe this is an opportunity t

liz cheney is the last person standing, we'll see how she fares come november.us about your work and what you have to see done with gun reform, i mean it's obviously front and center in our congress right now, we hope it becomes that way in our political discourse as well, as we've seen time and time again, weeks from now it's probably gonna fall by the wayside? >> yeah, let me just say that we've been working relentlessly on this issue, before buffalo, before you've all, the putting pressure on the administration and congress to pass common sense gun reform laws. we know that 90% of americans, ayman, whether democrats, republicans, independents to page hr a which is the universal background check bill. we know red flag law support -- after the parkland shootings use more than 6000 times, in a state where we know it's has republican control over the past 20 years, red flag laws were. we know that more guns on the streets is making our children less safe, we have to show that the administration and congress can work on this issue and deliver for the people. i'm e

and how fascinating, liz cheney, how fascinating. he brings up liz cheney. right?mccarthy on the phone with liz cheney talking about the 25th amendment. talking about going to talk to trump. getting him out thereof. this is a funny thing with trumpers, why do you change? why do you want -- you know, i heard it from republicans in general for years, why have you changed? you know, the party's gotten crazy as hell. and the party changed. but here you have liz cheney, i'm like, liz -- the same, same as it ever was. talking. same as it ever was. same as it ever was. you've got kevin going like this. he's all over the place -- oh, i love donald. i hate donald. this is donald trump's fault! yeah, liz, let's figure out how -- i'm going to go talk to donald and tell him to resign to get out. you know, and liz is saying, okay. and liz stays the same. and these poor, feckless, weak, cowardly guys go down and shine donald trump's shoes. it's just -- it's unbelievable. people are -- liz hasn't changed. lindsey's changed. and kevin's changed. and the republican party has change

but there are some things going for liz cheney that could be beneficial.here are several candidates running. donald trump is trying to clear the field, so there is just one opponent, but there's actually several running in wyoming. it is sort of an open primary system where you can have democrats, and vote in the republican primary. for all of the fighting going on between the two of them and for a conservative state where donald trump is very popular, i still think she has a decent chance at winning which is remarkable, especially given that what she thinks is right politics. host: the republican may or may not have a former president trump problem. the democratic party may or may not have a president biden problem. here is a story that i want to bring to you and get you to react to. the newspaper says president biden's approval hit a new low on monday. of course, 57% of reddish or voters disapprove of how biden has handled the presidency with 40% saying they strongly disapprove, and 17% saying they somewhat disapprove. is this midterm election about joe

but there are some things going for liz cheney that could be beneficial. there are several candidates running. donald trump is trying to clear the field, so there is just one opponent, but there's actually several running in wyoming. it is sort of an open primary system where you can have democrats, and vote in the republican primary. for all of the fighting going on between the two of them and for a conservative state where donald trump is very popular, i still think she has a decent chance at winning which is remarkable, especially given that what she thinks is right politics. host: the republican may or may not have a former president trump problem. the democratic party may or may not have a president biden problem. here is a story that i want to bring to you and get you to react to. the newspaper says president biden's approval hit a new low on monday. of course, 57% of reddish or voters disapprove of how biden has handled the presidency with 40% saying they strongly disapprove, and 17% saying they somewhat disapprove. is this midterm election about jo

then we had liz cheney tweeting the leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, anti-semitismhistory taught us what begins with words end in worse. leaders must reject those views. how problematic getting mainstreamed on far right. you want to talk about cultural solutions to this, these are folks with very large mega phones flirting at the onen end of the spectrum. >> absolutely. there are two really dangerous things about it. the first is what you just mentioned. it's mainstreaming and legitimizing the idea there's some kind of blot out there. some kind of nefarious plot by democrats in this case of the tucker carlson illusion to it, to replace americans with voters that would be more compliant by importing them through immigration. in the buffalo case, it's clear this teen was radicalized not through mainstream media, but in online spaces. but it make it is less likely that the adults around him, we have a guide for parents and caregivers online. to warn them about online radicalization and the number one bullet point is about the great replacement theory. how less likely t

politico reporting this morning liz cheney was pushing hard for this, right, against some of the othermakers who are a little bit more reticent. from your perspective, laura, do the subpoenas, rather, does this add at all to the -- i don't want to say the legitimacy of the investigation, it is not that it isn't a legitimate investigation, but does it in any way bolster it? >> i think it does bolster to use all of the available tools at your disposal to try to compel testimony. if they had simply said we asked you to attend an actual hearing, they could come back later with a talking point that says, well, you know, had you actually subpoenaed me, they maybe would have had a different conversation. by exhausting all of the available vehicles to get compliance, you really do but tress your ability to say we not only have the means, we tried to pursue them. you have this attitude. the other side of it, you have the political consequences yet again where people will likely fund-raise off the feather in the cap that says, hey, they want to submit to a committee that i said had you just put