the transformation of the democratic party brought on liz cheney. democrats today have become the party of military adventurism, globalism and corporatism. there is a deep and out of touch and as spiteful to the working classes you can get. foreign wars overseas. open borders at home. in empowering big tech and massive corporations to spy on us, to censor us and sent our most important jobs to foreign countries. if the republican party can continue to make inroads with it working-class as it has in the trump era and continue to say, we are going to fight for your jobs, fight for your borders and 5-year dignity that we can truly create republican party. that is a majority party in this country for a long time. that's could require a lot of work laura and has a bit done right now. >> no, and charlie, you're looking closely at what the democrats have done.first of all to the country. wreckage as far as the eye can see. but, to themselves. it really is astounding that they have much of any coalition left. they made that unholy alliance, do they not? >>

they got liz cheney and ours. we got tulsi abbad. as democrats continue to abandon the people who make this country function day in and day out, conservative populists candidates will scoop them up. that's how republicans will win back the senate and winbbard. the presidency again, because no nue to w we're the party of hoph and change. >> and that's the anglemp. e. >> joining us now, steven miller, former senior adviser to president trump, founder of america first legal, as well as charlie hurt, washington times opinion editorhe ankle. annd fox news contributor steven, am i wrong in saying that liz cheney could basically write the democrats 2020t four platform on foreign policy at this point? >> no, io, i think your analysis is spot on . in fact, your observation is one of the most astute i've heard in a long time, which on. is that the transformation of the republican partyon is on brt on tulsi gabbard, the transformation of che democrat party brought on liz cheney. democrats today have become a party of military adventurism, globa

liz cheney incurred the wrath of many republicans, she lost.hat say about your candidacy? >> well, first of all, there's big differences there. liz cheney participated in the impeachment, i said there should not have been that impeachment effort against former president trump. so big differences there. but obviously i do believe it is important to speak the truth. i think it is -- you have to be authentic whenever you look at what -- the kind of leadership we need for our future, and a group says president trump is deserving of another opportunity to lead this country. i see that the loss to biden in 2020, we lost the senate in 2022, largely because of his invoking himself and looking back to the last election, and so let's don't lose again, and that's what's important to me is that we once again reclaim the lost freedoms we have had under president biden and we focus on a strong america, more progressive important energy policy that produces, a pro growth policy and stop spending excessively federally so we can control spending. and reduce inf

former republican congresswoman, liz cheney, vice chair of the january six committee, responded to this on twitter. quote, trump is embracing a j six defendant, who called for the execution of members of congress. two elected republicans who have endorsed him, you are endorsing his conduct on january 6th and, everyday sense. the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil's forget man to do nothing. trump support for january six defendants comes to this jacks mitt continues his investigation into the former presidents efforts to overturn the 2020 election. earlier today, the former lead counsel for the january six committee said this about donald trump. >> his support of them, is continual good words to them suggests that he was on board, on january 6th. the central issue for jack smith is what did the president intend with his words, and deeds, or lack thereof of january 6th? did he intend for the joint session to be disrupted? sessions like yesterday, to this rider, to me, are strong evidence that he intended for them to succeed. for them to do exactly what they did, and more. it is

i agree with liz cheney. if that's your view, i don't know how you maintain your ability to have access to classified information going forward. >> so, charlie, i started can with katy and andrew before i -- we had this conversation because these are important legal and journalistic distinctions. in maga world, the leader of the movement has taken classified material to mar-a-lago and said by sinking it he has declassified them and they are, quote, mine. andrew just said the justice department takes this incredibly seriously. why? because they are classified documents. why do we take classified documents seriously? because it is u.s. national -- it is a national interest. do you know what tucker carlson led with last night? not the national interest. he celebrated the leak of the documents. what people don't want to do, i don't think, when people like you and me ask questions and express some frustration, dismay, frankly, how long it has taken to hold trump accountable is acknowledge the permission structure

bush, dick cheney, liz cheney, and bill kristol because of their supposed brave stance against presidentump. some people in the roommate disagree, but had donald trump bombed tehran and overthrown bashar al-assad, i think liz cheney and bill kristol would have been cheering stop the steal in the lead up to january 6, but i think the worst thing is the fact that there has not been a repudiation of the mindset that led us to the war in iraq, in particular the belief that american power has no limits and that the united states should behave like it does not have any constraints on its power. there is still the belief, even if it is more whispered then shouted, that the united states alone can impose liberal democracy in a top-down manner, whether through armed force or other means, and that, and that it will still somehow be successful despite the debacle in iraq and afghanistan. for many of the foreign policymaking elites, it is not a question of about simply a question of willpower, not resources, capabilities, trade-offs, or prioritization, just our will to do something, and that is the

when liz cheney lost her seat in the house, that is when i went down to the courthouse and listed as an independent. republican party here in wyoming , their freaking caucuses, too far out. there is a movement of more moderate republicans. they get in power, get these right-wingers out and i will register as a republican again and i will vote for -- peter: what is your reaction? kurt: i am certainly one of those right. i think gordon is onto something. america's constitution really forces us to divide into two parties. those parties have to be broad. at a minimum, you want 50% plus one. if you're smart, you went better. that means i'm going to have to sit down with people that do not agree with me on everything and maybe cornelius and we have to work together on principles we do agree with. freedom, faith, family and the future. peter: next call is jan, denver, colorado. >> hi, i have a question. i was intrigued by your comment about an all-american -- you had an all-american upbringing. now, with all the words, i forgot exactly. your life in san mateo sounds a lot like my growing up

we talk about liz cheney in the book. they were like, look, ladies, not on the script. sorry, dad was the vp. we know you, have some history, but we got to go because we are going to stick to this agenda. i wish we did that progressive as the liberals did, that we could just say, listen listen, it's moderate talk you in the way some of you need to retire. it's time to have that conversation yesterday. thank you for that is true. beautiful. we'll talk offline and whether or not i should keep buying iceberg lettuce. but right now i want to you open the floor for questions so are we having people stand up and. okay, here we go. yes. wonderful. okay. hi. uh i was wondering what the ultimate goal of cancel culture is. is it the cancellation people or is it the cancellation of an idea through the cancellation of people? so i think to be is that i'm not focused so much on the in my book, specifically the consequences what happens. people are they well, what should people do how to book maybe that's a maybe but like i would focus

the judge here but this is going to play out in criminal court, unlike where he can go after a liz cheney, this is one where he's flying with less control over the situation. >> we'll bring in david jolly, of course, the former republican congressman from florida associate editor a.b. stoddard, and "the new york times" reporter jeremy peters jeremy's here with me in new york what do we expect from the mar-a-lago rally when the president returns tomorrow night? is that a speech is that a rally? as we heard after the arraignment, he's flying directly from there to mar-a-lago, to florida >> usually, these big appearances tend to have a repeat soundtrack. i don't think we'll hear anything much different except for maybe more anger and contempt in his voice. what's so interesting to me, though, is the way that -- regardless of what will we know about trump being personally terrified as one of my colleagues at the "times" have reported about his current mind-set, and terrified of losing this case, he also understands how to make himself the center of the news psych until a way that few people i

i suppose the republicans probably have some reprimands like they did for liz cheney for her audacity to say that. anyways, cutting spending and lower taxes, that is the republican mind trickle going back to reagan, who never submitted a single allen's budget. tax cuts are comparable to a person unable to pay bills, asking their employer to cut my pay. one thing for sure, smart people do not pay their taxes because donald trump told us so. we elected him president and we know he is a stable genius because he told us that, also. host: do you have a direct question for our guest? caller: a direct question? republicans play these shenanigans. a democrat is in the white house. they never challenged -- never tried to use these tactics when trump was there. host: ok. that is brent in michigan. guest: what i will tell you is, we continue to hear about the budget. there have been so many budgets proposed by every congress that has come before may. quite frankly, they are nothing more then plans that people would like to have lament. what we are responsible for, what we have control over each

we got the oklahoma attorney general is investigating former congressman liz cheney is spilling the tead her new memoir, both and honor, the book focuses on the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election and what led up to january 6th. cheney also expected to reveal why she says she decided to stand alone against her party to quote do what she knew was right. the book is pegged as a memoir and a warning. it drops in november. in sunny arizona. a lot of shade being thrown at senator kirsten cinema. the democratic congressman ruben gallego, who's running for cinema. senate seat says the independent incumbent can jump in the race, but she wants to end up in third place for the first time ever any center ending up in any comments that end up in third place, she has the right to do that cinema has yet to announce her re election plans. next hour, president biden will sign an executive order to make childcare more affordable and more accessible. the order includes 50 directives across nearly every cabinet agency to fix the so called care economy. the president you'll remember, could not pass

well short of what liz cheney said. justice department brought him in, and suggests if the department can be compelled to testify, others they are seeking will be compelled to testify, as well. it underscores how many nets donald trump is facing. they had a rally after the manhattan d.a. indicted him. he's looking at potentially two more federal documents and an investigation in georgia that the legal challenges and the political challenges are only going to get more pronounced. >> we heard about this and he's written about this in his book. how forlt coming do you think pence will be about the crucial one-on-one conversations between himself and donald trump? >> based on everything we've seen from mike pence, we don't think he will go out of his way to deliver the evidence. he will bend in the opposite direction. he is someone who prides himself on his -- he will answer what is asked. none of us can predict if his testimony will be helpful or harmful to trump. i think he's not going to overtly mislead a grand jury. it

[laughter] -- [applause] >> nick and vanessa liz cheney trying to reassure viewers that love appearedcial was delayed by over an hour to a frenzy of complaints. this is netflix's first streaming event where it allowed -- this was a bit of a failure for netflix' integration to livestream events. >> they made a deal about they will do live events. this is part of their big deal of advertising and they dip their toes into it. this is their second big live stream event and for it to fail not only signals to viewers, it is disappointing right now but also all the media watchers and everyone thinking about buying advertising, sports leagues, do you trust that looks to livestream games? this is not a great start. ed: we will have a fuel -- full opportunity because netflix has earnings. one of the worst performance on the s&p 500. felix, i think they issued a apology? felix: they said stick around and they will take the show. they said, we will do the reunion and tape it and put it up tomorrow so at some point, plant --fans will watch this. i think it is less of a problem of -- for the fans b

liz cheney 2% and 3%, i had to baker my show earlier this morning, here's what he said the race of the>> america first does not belong to donald trump. as a belong to me, it belongs to the voters look that the people of this country so if we are doing it based on first principles and moral authority rather than vengeance and grievance, we can go further with the agenda itself and lead a national revival instead of national divorce, that's why i'm in the race. >> breath of fresh air. >> he's talking policy and giving policy answers. been a fox since 2017, i think i've said almost once a week republicans don't get policy answers, they just complain about things. this gives answers. whether he can bridge the gap is unclear but he does give answers and that's what the average american wants. stuart: you know exactly what he is saying. president biden was asked if he could be donald trump again in 2024. here's the answer. >> you said you could be trump again, do you think you're the only one? >> i may not be the only one but i know him well and i know the danger he presents to our democracy

biden and robert kennedy and we have kristen williamson, and yet to announce we have mike pence, liz cheneychris christie and rob desantis, and kristi noem and rob scott and governor sununu and governor young. >> we will make that decision soon. >> and chris sununu says he is going to be announcing his decision before the fourth of july. >> and former obama official van jones, and so good to see you, and we saw the video announcement from president biden this morning an rolling out officially the election campaign, and themes of abortion rights, and threats of democracy and through the januaryth imagery, and voting rights and abortion rights and gay rights and the fight is not over, and what did you think of it? >> well, you know, one thing about joe biden, he has always been underestimated. he was considered a lightweight in the senate, but he is a winner. it is hard when you have won vice president twice and won the presidency twice, once, to not want to do it again. so, i don't think that anybody is surprised that he is running. i think that the themes that he is talking are interesting,

is certainly is well short of what others like liz cheney has said, that the events after the election have disqualified trump from being president again. but i think the fact that the justice department went to this effort, brought him in -- first of all, suggest that if the vice president can be compelled to testify, others, that they are seeking -- going to be compelled to testify as well. but it just underscores just how much -- how many nets donald trump is facing. and how they are tightening around him. he held a rally after the manhattan d.a. indicted him. he's looking a potentially two more indictments and a very serious investigation. in georgia, the challenges are -- the legal challenges and the political challenges that go with that are only getting more pronounced. >> and ron brownstein, i will stay with you. we heard from revil morton. he's written about all this in his book. how actually forthcoming do you think pence will be about those crucial one-on-one conversations between himself and -- >> based on everything we have seen from mike pence, i don't think he is going t

former representative liz cheney said greene should lose her security clearance and she cannot be trusted the maker of the pill used for medical abortion is joining with the justice department now to ask the supreme court to block a ruling that curbs access to the medication the laboratory said if the decision to revoke the drug goes into effect, they would beer replayerably harmed. >> cpi, ppi both easing retail sales missed. headline consumer sentiment was beat this morning, but expectations shot higher industrial production climbed. so the fed seems to be, as well. steve liesman is here to explain. steve? >> can i just say after a week like this, thank god it's friday what a week. we ended up with dovish comments from a new fed president this morning. better inflation data, softer retail sales this morning. it prompted bond markets to do the opposite of what you would expect they are pricing in more fed tightening at this hour. future markets now nearly fully pricing in a quarter point rate hike coming in may that would bring the rate to 5.13 so they are just about most of the way ther

silent about trump's continued adoration for this group, recently ousted republican congresswoman liz cheney tweeted this warning to her former colleagues. trump is embracing a j-6 defendant who called for the execution of members of congress. to elected republicans who have endorsed him, you are endorsing his conduct on january 6th and every day since. the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. joining me now is congressman eric swalwell of california, a member of the house judiciary and homeland security committees, and harry lipman, senior legal affairs columnist for the los angeles times and host of the talking feds podcast. congressman, i will start with you. your reaction to donald trump literally embracing a qanon supporting insurrectionist who wanted people like yourself to be executed. >> joy, these are the foot soldiers of maga nation, and they're doing exactly what donald trump, tucker carlson, and the maga nation want them to do, which is carry out violence in their name. they try and be cute about it by saying stand back, stand by. but in all

the second anecdote is liz cheney liz cheney now, you know, because she was cast out of the party hasonservative person down the line it's not like she got out of the party and said oh, i've changed my views on foreign policy, i've changed my views on taxes or regulation, but what she did was she did speak out after tennessee and she said what republicans -- the lack of proposals here from the republicans is telling and she sent a tweet about that. and to me that was very revealing. right? in some ways it's sad that you can't do it while you're an elected republican but the fact that the first thing somebody, once they're cast out from the republican party, can speak out on is on democracy and guns just goes to show how clear it is that it's not a safe space, if you will, to speak ut o'on those things in the republican party it should be i hope there are more people with courage we've lived this for eight years, though. i think we know there aren't more people with courage i think that just showed how deep it is as soon as someone leaves that corrupt system, then they can say the trut

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scott's lower than even liz cheney on this list.esantis does and how much people want to replicate what happened in 2016 where there was kind of a clown car of candidates and that's how donald trump ended up winning because everyone was 3% or 4% and knocked each other out and ended one a republican nominee that wide swath of the party. certainly the establishment and leadership didn't want there. i do think that tim scott is a compelling candidate on the republican side. he has an incredible story that his grandfather had to leave school, elementary school to go and pick cotton and now he is a u.s. senator from the state of south carolina. the video, i thought, was very good. it was kind of timeless, i would say. there are ones that are flashier. but it had a real kind of core republican message and i think that folks in the party who are desperate for that, for a return to normalcy, will find him to be appealing. but desantis, if he keeps eating up 25%, there is no room for anyone else. >> bret: brit? >> brit: straight line project

and liz cheney is suddenly in third place. she was at 5%.he is at 10%. >> ainsley: what poll is that that central garr. >> steve: travtrafalgar poll. 70% of americans are more likely to vote for donald trump in the primary because of this. >> ainsley: because they think it's politically motivated. the story that broke last night is michael isikoff. he was saying that he has a tip that trump will be placed under arrest today and informed that he has been charged with 34 felony counts. we were thinking one felony count. he is saying all 34 counts will be felonies for falsification of business records. >> steve: right. >> ainsley: the reason bumped up to class e felony lowest level of felony in new york. >> steve: still a felony. >> ainsley: bragg says trump was attempting to conceal another underlying crime. a class e felony can result in prison terms of up to four years. >> brian: right. here's the crazy thing. how do you do a poll on what do you think about the indictment whether you don't know what's in the indictment and have you an opinio

chris, last year, he effectively vanished the likes of liz cheney and adam kinzinger and republicansried to come after him in investigation among republican voters, and it worked this time, a little different because he's dealing with the justice system, at the same time, he sees political advantage to beat them in the republican electorate, ahead just a couple months away from new hampshire, south carolina and beyond >> i mean, robert, let's not kid ourselves from the time he came down that escalator, we have seen donald trump's ability to pull a rabbit out of a hat when it comes to politics, for someone who has never done politics before. do you think he can take, $5 million is not something to be dismissive about, but do you think he can take this and turn it to political advantage? do you see it? >> well, chris, i think it depends on the audience with which you're asking that question about, right? we've seen the quinnipiac poll and we've seen other polls within the last 48 hours that show support and consolidating among support of republican voters and that is, if he continues t

adam kinzinger, mike holly grove th january six committee said when he said, it's not that he and liz cheneyit's just a theory surrounde by cowards and this is kind of a cowardly action by mom desantis, to try to compete with donald trump o trump's own turf >> now you have, in addition t the district, the manhatta district attorney's case and the indictment this week, ther are three other criminal cases you've said that the justice department has been too slow and investigating trump for hi role in january si insurrection and that the g doj should have been first to bring charges on that that would've been preferable, i should say why do you think that the do has not been faster in its investigation? and really, coming to conclusion in that case. i think they're responding t how badly politicized th department was under bill barr someone who interfered to tr to stop the case it is now being brought in manhattan, to stop the district of new york, the federal prosecutors from proceeding with a case someone intervene to make th sentence against roger stone become less, to make the cas against m

she's getting blow back, not only from democrats but from former congresswoman liz cheney who used to be in mccarthy's innermost circle before she was kicked out for her remark on the former president cheney said marjorie taylor greene cannot be trusted going a step further, echoed by eric swalwell who say the same for greene, but all in all, other republicans and democrats are looking at the situation as what it is, a completely unprecedented that this happened they're trying to get to the bottom of it hike i said, sources are telling me they're coming together to see how this can be prevented in the future. >> i see hearings in your future, julie tsirkin. thank you so much. appreciate that reporting. >>> this leak comes on the heels of multiple investigations into how classified documents were handled. does the government have a problem keeping information safe we'll dig into that in just 60 seconds. - representative! - sorry, i didn't get that. - oh buddy! you need a hug. you also need consumer cellular. get the exact same coverage as the nation's leading carriers and 100% us based

and we've heard the people lik liz cheney, other people who are not running, frankly get behind him simplyg on a knot trum campaign the other ones are little just mini means, running around echoing him. desantis is just another trumpian who is parity in hi nonsense, nikki haley ha broken with donald trump, th rest of them certainly haven't so i think he should b celebrated in some fashion and give him a few bucks rather than donald trump >> and i will, to quot jennifer, is not crazy we'll not crazy when the republican party i think they put it right, i is a bike lane but can he bike that - ride that by coming to actuall winning the nomination >> we will see, jonathan we've heard for months now ever since the midterms, tha there are republicans out there, somewhere, who want to take th offer away from donald trump we have seen no evidence o that yet, so this will be thought experiment, i guess, come to life to see if that is actually true. the one thing i do know is tha for all of these republicans whether it is a mike pompeo or ron desantis, -- you can't beat the guy if yo spends all of th

that's very different from those like liz cheney who said donald trump's actions on that day and theto it have disqualified him from serving as president again. pence has not been willing to say that. and given that track record i personally would be surprised if he was a super valuable witness. i don't think he's going to go out of his way to leave his fingerprints on testimony that could hurt donald trump. pence does have a very narrow line and he is struggling to find traction in the early stages of the race. the difficulty that all of the republican rivals face is that most of this is still donald trump's party at the grassroots. most republican voters are generally comfortable with his direction, his performance, even his kind of belligerence and the way he attacks what they view as enemies of the america that they envision. the question that all of them face is how can you dislodge him without necessarily alienating the voters who rally around him and are rallying around him again despite, as we said earlier, the evidence that on the electorate beyond the republican coalition t

i'm liz cheney got primary out of her seat. is is comfortable in new hampshire by think pointing lisa confines of new hampshire. it's going to be very difficult place to be created. chris christie found that out during the camp during the 2016 were you basically? dropped out almost as soon as he got it's a very it's a it's it's a different mathematics of election. if you're a republican right now goes through how much? how much can you prove yourself to be loyal and in fealty to the ideals of of donald trump and and answer that the the regime, how the republican party. i do want to just we have heard from the white house regarding all of the biden administration's saying that the is not paying any attention to this, that he is focused on the american people today they were asked multiple but if the president's paying attention, what his thoughts are his white house staff has said, no, he's not paying any sort of attention to the former president and his arraignment if you're just now joining us, this is a live look on the right

bombs at marathon finish lines, over and over again we see the domestic extremism rearing its head liz cheneygether after january 6th and introduced a bill called not clearance for domestic terrorist act that would revoke security clearances for people a part of domestic extremist groups that have vowed theories of overthrowing the government, shouldn't be in positions of public trust or clearances i want to say one last thing and make sure that viewers understand what problem we have here and don't have here i actually disagree with your last guest we are not the leakiest intelligence service in the world. far from it. we have the envy of the world of intelligence services. we have the largest, we have the most sophisticated, provide intelligence to people all the time we're the best in the world at it this is a terrible leak, but this is not endemic. this does not happen all of the time let's take a step back and fully understand this is a problem that needs to be addressed, but we also have an exceptional intelligence service and professionals that do amazing work every day. >> and i think

remnants o that in the way they went after, you know, quintessential conservative republicans, in liz cheney this sense within the part that they, not only hold m beer, i got a whole bar behind me, i need you to pay attentio to in terms of what they'r gonna do but one real quick point i wan to stress with david, exactl right. in terms of what's happening a the state legislative level, that's the laboratory that republicans have been workin for a number of years now, you may wind, but trust me, in a couple of years, of gerrymande that see one last point, democrats do i too. i'm in blue maryland, and we don't have the numbers that we should have based on the population in the vote supporting there, democrats. >> david, let me ask you one thing. i was talking to timothy snyder, the expert on misinformation and the big lie the other day, i, said what we do about the stuff? he said, support local journalism, go to school board meetings, run for office, loca office the bad news is, we don't cove state and local politics where the stuff is happening is. the good news is, the averag voter who is inc

enemy to the biden regime that is what congresswoman marjorie taylor greene had t say about this liz cheney is saying that he security clearance, marjorie taylor greene's security clearance should be pulled ove that comment what do you make of this >> first of, all i have security clearance, i continue to advise on a number of different ways i think that no one is targete because of the race or their background i have never seen that in 40 plus years of holding security clearance and being a the absolute pinnacle of classified information secondly, it iresponsibl for a member of the u.s. government to make those kinds of comments. it does nothing appropriate an finally, whenever someon violates these norms, edward snowden had to run, had to tak citizenship and moscow i hope he gets drafted by th way and sent to the frontlines in ukraine chelsea manning wa incarcerated, paid a significant price in prison. i think you have to punish those individuals to betra their oath to the country an you have to do it sharply an strongly that the tyrant is part of how we protect our classifie information.

mike pence, liz cheney, chris christie, ron desantis still has not declared, kristi noem, tim scott,is sununu, and governor sununu. >> we've got a legislative session that we're working on, we have a few more weeks to go with that, we will be putting up a lot of wins on the board and so i'm not going to be making any announcements before that's concluded. >> okay. are you leaning one way or another? >> state tuned. >> so if you pull out your calendar you can decipher a little bit of what he's talk being in terms of timing. here is what he means, florida's legislative session ends on may 5th so that is coming up which means the stay tuned might end shortly thereafter at least when it comes to ron desantis. mike pence says he's going to decide, quote, well before late june and in the meantime we have seen him making multiple visits to critical primary states. chris sununu he has laid out something of a calendar, he says he's going to be making his decision before the fourth of july. john has that all marked on his calendar. >> that's right. mark every day i have marked in the calendar

remember liz cheney said that the january 6th committee was told trump joked about that. then pence's secret service detail had to whisk him into hiding while the rioters rampaged through the capitol. but he insisted on staying in place and finishing the job. pence testifying about that will be powerful and he may have to one day do it in open court. >> glen, how much can pence say and what kind of things can he shield himself from having to say in a conversation with the former president? >> he can shield very little, jose, because the reporting is that chief judge bossburg who presided over the litigation over the various privileges that were asserted first by pence and then by trump, he gave him some limited protections, saying, well, you know, when you were presiding as the president of the senate over the count of the electoral votes, during that limited time you might have had -- you might enjoy some speech or debate clause privilege, but everything else is fair game. your conversations with trump, the run-up to january 6th, and certainly anything that would constit

the room account and an unsparing one at that about how the republicans went from the party of liz cheney to the party of marjorie taylor greene. david corn is a veteran washington and political commentator, winner of the 2012 george polk award, previously the washington editor of the magazine. now the washington bureau chief for mother. he is the coauthor or author, four new york times best sellers, including the number one bestseller russian roulette. today, we will be discussing his latest book, american psychosis a historical investigation of the republican party went crazy. how how not, if. it's love, bias, battle and love this year. yeah, we'll get to you. tim conway, fueled by both sides. i'm a little bit confused. both sides. where did they come up with. i don't know. all right. msnbc's rachel maddow said of this book, i think this is a great review. she says corn is a great journalist. i love the way he thinks. i love the way he writes. i'm so glad he has done a super modern history of the right. we just need smart, digestible history about this stuff right now. america psychosis

liz cheney is a great example. marc, you raise this point.i mean, this is it's it goes across conservative ideology. there is a great report written and i hope read it by a group conservative legal minds called last night storm and you can find it at last stolen dawg and included people like ben ginsberg who is george w bush's and mitt romney's counsel, ted olson, who famously argued for george w bush in the supreme court in 2000. judge thomas griffith, who was a d.c. circuit judge appointed by george w bush. bush george judge michael luttig, who was on bush's short list for the supreme court, who testified before the january committee. and somehow all these people get painted with this broad as a rhino. sometimes i'll even see it spelled out. you, which i think is somewhat hilarious. i'm not sure what the stands for in there, but but this tactic has been very effective of separating out these great conservative legal minds and conservative politicians who have a lot to contribute to policy regardless whether you agree with them or not. from

and that's one of the reasons why i actually joined forces with liz cheney and stephanie murphy. after january 6th and we actually crafted a bill called the no clearance for domestic terrorists act that would actually put some screening in place for people joining our military to make sure they weren't part of a domestic extremist group. and we'd those folks out because they shouldn't have access to our nation's closely guarded secrets. certainly should. congressman was this a failure by the pentagon and the u. s intelligence community that they didn't catch these documents floating around out there online sooner. i don't know if we can say it's a failure yet because this is a new way of disseminating information like this. this is a novel thing to my memory. i don't think anything like this has happened before. but what i do know is that we should prevent it from happening in the future. looking at new technologies, new ways of disseminating information, these chat rooms, these video gaming rooms, we certainly are going to have to figure out how we have eyes on what's happening

liz as much as i care about cheyn liz cheney's views on the gop.hs nevertheless, the recent aggressive, drills near taiwan, they're not just playful proddinglayful. j >> chinese fighter jets flyinget around taiwan skies. military ships sail off itsa sa coast. china says it's simulatingys it' precision attacks on key targets in taiwan. >> its military released this animation showing missiles fired from land sea and airom into taiwan. and two of them explode in flames. and the best we can do is reciprocate by having our owe byn military drills with the philippines, our close ally in the region.ill even ifs, our close ally in the so at this point, it is pretty easy to conclude that taiwan is almost doomed. som but despite what some neocons like john bolton suggest, i say. no troops in taiwan, nothing atn all for taiwan until we revoke the most favored nation trade status for china. we revoke the most favorite na it's literally insane to askit's american troops to be in arm a country. at the same time, we'ry e fundig an army that is about to attack. that same country. but instead of learni