on page 18 of her book jim jordan gets this from liz cheney. quote, jordan did make a memorable pitch to me to join the group. it went something like this. would you consider joining the freedom caucus? we don't have any women and we need one. cheney says tempting as this offer was i took a pass. on page 153 here's liz cheney's good-bye to congresswoman elise stefanik. quote, other members said they were upset that my impeachment vote had caused them trouble at home. they thought i should have provide themd cover for their votes against impeachment. i had heard this complaint from an angry elise stefanik of new york. she told me that because of my vote to impeach people were writing letters to the editor of her local newspapers criticizing her and asking why she hadn't taken the same principled stand that i had. cheney says, quote, that seemed less my problem than hers. many of us who had known elise stefanik since before she abandoned all principle were curious about how she had lost her sense of right and wrong. cheney says a number of the men

liz cheney: let's listen. jake tapper: the committee also played police radio transmissions from that day. speaker: there's an individual who's entering. he's got blue jeans and a blue jean jacket, and underneath the blue jean jacket, the complainants both saw stock of an ar-15. he's going to be with a group of individuals about 5 to 8-- 5 to 8 other individuals. two of the individuals in that group, they had glock style pistols in their waistbands. speaker: i've got three men walking down the street in fatigues carrying ar-15s, copy, at 14th and independence. jake tapper: yet trump wanted the metal detectors, the magnetometers, or mags, removed. cassidy hutchinson: while we were in the offstage announce tent, i was in the vicinity of a conversation where i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don't effing care that they have weapons. they're not here to hurt me. take the effing mags away. let my people in. they can march to the capitol from here. let the people in. take the effing mags aw

later on, i'll be talking to former congresswoman liz cheney. lause] former representative cheney, she's got a new book out called "oath and honor: a memoir and a warning." it's sold out on amazon, making it the most successful memoir/warning since britney's "the woman in me... is about to do some weird stuff with knives on instagram." cheney has been warning that the g.o.p. will never stand up to trump's dictatorial instincts. she recounts that when house republicans gathered on january 6th and members were pressured to sign onto objections to the vote count, as one congressman signed his name, he said out loud, "the things we do for orange jesus." orange jesus? have some respect, sir. his name is gritty. [cheering] took a drive down 95 to philly for that joke. also, "orange jesus" sounds like the smoothie place you'd find in a very religious food court. right next to original sin-abon. now, how long were we away? almost three weeks we were away. while we were away, the republican party lost one horrible person, because george santos was expelle

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liz cheney is up to something. we don't know exactly what.ot endorsing nikki haley because she knows nikki haley is not going to win. what she wants is for nikki haley to stay in as long as possible so that donald trump has to use resources to continue competing in the republican primary. but certainly liz cheney and her family are looking for ways to stop donald trump. so she might collaborate with a third party candidate, she might join some kind of third party ticket. i could certainly see her coming out and endorsing joe biden. that is how strongly liz cheney feels about donald trump and the need, from her view, to block him from once again ascending to the presidency. >> what about this effort by the rnc, jonathan, to declare donald trump the presumptive nominee, the proposal they had, and walked back quickly. what was going on with that? >> katy, how many times have you and i heard donald trump claim elections were rigged, and this is a case that rnc was trying to do just that. trump only had about 1/20 of the delegates needed. david bo

that is liz cheney, one of the most conservative people in the republican party, daughter to dick cheneyervative vice presidents we have ever seen, at a black church on mlk day. because donald trump is that much of a threat. i don't think liz cheney, with the exception of donald trump, should not be president. i don't think she agrees with any other of king's the policies. so i get her being there and i think it's important, but one thing dr. king, they don't just talk about certain things. talk about the portfolio that dr. king stood for. when that means eliminating poverty, standing for peace, not really liz cheney's voting record. >> that's not only dr. king's philosophy. many times he found people who may agree on a specific issue. you're not going to get people with you all the time. so one of the things that dr. king was so good at was finding people like liz cheney, who is that stall worth republican, who otherwise you would not be seeing, and invite them to meet your people where they are for this particular of moment. she's not going to be with them on the earned income tax cred

>> i don't spend much time responding to liz cheney these days.iz cheney worked with the democrats on the january 6th select committee to make this more politicized than it was. she was a close friend and colleague before -- >> she said that in her book about you. >> yeah. you know -- >> she was surprised, she is. i'm surprised she's grivg giving that criticism. liz and i were in dialog and at one point she considered signing on to that bill. that was a fact. to that amicus brief. we had a difference of opinion on the law and people can agree to disagree on that, but i'm telling you that plain language of the constitution has never changed and what happened in many states by changing the election laws without ratification by the state legislatures is a violation of the constitution. that's a plain fact and no one can dispute. >> how do you make sense of the idea that you still have issues with the validity of the 2020 election, but one of to negotiate and talk with the president of the united states, joe biden? >> this is water under the bridge. w

>> well, nikki haley is not liz cheney, right? she's from south carolina. they've got -- >> nikki haley is not liz cheney. >> she's got nothing. >> sorry. are you still talking? all right. we have a connection issue with ana there. jackie, i'll have you answer this question, and ana can listen in. participatory listening. >> well, so i don't think that's who nikki haley is, and we've kind of already seen that strategy. his name was chris christie. he didn't get very far. he left it all on the field. he ran a very liz cheney esque campaign, if you will. just going after trump relentlessly. speaking his truth and really using every opportunity possible to remind voters what happened in the trump presidency, particularly at the end, and what is going on in the courts. haley hasn't done that. even now when she is attacking the former president, she's not talking about the ongoing court cases or january 6th. when she's talking about things he's saying that aren't true, it is about what he is saying about her. that just doesn't seem to be what her strategy has be

you could never have called liz cheney a moderate.n doing the right thing and basically succumbing to the lowest snake belly base interests of performative politics so you can be powerful and i love that liz cheney did this because we now know that elise stefanik doesn't mean that these people who have gone to court, many of whom who pled guilty and found guilty in our court system, she knows they're not hostages. that's what she called them. she called them hostages. that is what donald trump wants her to say. now, i don't know if this will stop her from being vice president. clearly, that's what she's aiming for. and the whole thing kind of just makes me sick to my stomach because i hate seeing bright smart women end up laying this low to the ground like elise stefanik is now. >> and she is that. there's no question. she's highly educated, very sophisticated, savvy political being. and she's made some interesting choices. charlie, thanks as always. good to see you again. coming up next, a gop congressman forgetting what she voted ag

liz cheney is still here. the book and about the story and about the choices that you've made. i also want to ask you to say something about the clear affection you developed for a lot of people that before january 6th you may not have agreed with on much. people like jamie raskin and nancy pelosi and zoe lofgren. >> well, i think in terms of my fellow members of the committee it was -- i'm really proud of the work we did and the way that we worked in a non-partisan fashion. and we began when the committee started by saying what are all the things that can go wrong? and why have all of these committees, congressional committees, they mostly fail? and we knew this one couldn't. so to the extent to which the members of the committee said all right, we're not going to put ourselves front and center, we're not going to all ask questions at every public hearing, we're going to be focused on the evidence itself was really significant. we would not have succeeded without that. and you mentioned jamie and zoe and cert

let me ask you, though, about what liz cheney said, this might be your last vote. this isn't a guy who's going to leave office willingly. >> he's demonstrated he didn't want to leave office willingly, and we have heard from aides who said in private counsel meetings, that's where he was on january 6th or in the days leading up to january 6th. i'm not surprised cheney has said that. i think she's right. but that conversation with republican primary voters, it's just not that same conversation. that's why you see trump not just leading in the polls but so far ahead in the polls whether you're looking at iowa for the caucuses or new hampshire. >> doug hie, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> and former defense secretary leon panetta joins me on the current defense secretary's failure to tell anyone he was in the icu. what was at risk? >>> plus, secretary blinken tells reporters what middle east leaders are willing to do in gaza and with israel. what will benjamin netanyahu say about it, though? >>> and speaker mike johnson is getting the kevin mccarthy treatment fr

but i saw liz cheney and she was looking at me and that kind of calmed me down.ished legislator from arizona. speaker bowers, thank you for being with us today. >> this is a loyal, lifelong republican. he's a conservative who fought to get trump reelected. >> arizona house speaker rusty bowers, come on up here! (cheers and applause) >> rusty bowers is a compelling person. it's hard to talk to him and not believe him. and the stories that he told about his direct communications with the president were just so indicative and so powerful that he was kind of an obvious choice, frankly, for somebody that america needed to hear from directly. >> after the election, you received a phone call from president trump and rudy giuliani, in which they discussed the result of the presidential election in arizona. if you would, tell us about that call. >> mr... the president initially laid out the broad claim of fraud across the country-- named different states, including my own. >> what was the ask during this call? he was making these allegations of fraud, but he had something

you are seeing the kind who listen to liz cheney speak a few weeks ago. you are seeing a little bit of that. there's no evidence of a stampede of voters towards nikki haley, saying this is a great chance to stop donald trump, which is what she needs to absolutely overturn the polling, she needs to denominate or just like the right to the tune of 250,000 voters or so. knowing that that right now. >> andrew, what would have to happen for nikki haley to win new hampshire? to have this massive turnout? >> a miracle? a political miracle. certainly, it's really important to point out that no candidate writing either the republican or democratic primary new hampshire has ever won without winning the plurality of the parties registered votes. never happened. no one's ever won on the backs of the independents. so, if nikki haley is able to pull this off, she will have to overcome donald trump's lead among registered republicans, which we've seen in our most recent poll, upwards of 65%. that means she would have to get not only more independents showing up then reg

. >> she's doing a modified liz cheney, enough of it that it's -- i think it's good for her to do this. >> you realize the trump campaign is going to take you saying that, and you just made an ad that's going to run in south carolina. >> kara swisher. >> because i'm their favorite. i just got a thing from nikki haley. i don't know how she got on my phone that said if trump wants me to stop, and he promises you can't stay in maga if you don't give money here, if you give money to me, and i wrote on one of the social -- on threads, promise, is that a promise, i can get kicked out of maga. >> kristen, let's talk about liz cheney. liz cheney, mitt romney, adam kinzinger, assuming that he doesn't crack and that he does get the nomination, and dha he's the republican nominee, what do the never trumpers do now? where do they go? >> this is a tough moment, if you're a never trumper, because you could come away from 2016 going, you know what, it was weird, it was a fluke, it was a black swan event, and then in 2020 you could even say, well, he was the incumbent president so we stick with him. b

it's that dangerous. >> let me ask you, this talk about liz cheney, liz cheney, mitt romney, adam kinzinger, assuming that he doesn't crack and that he does get the nomination and that he's the republican nominee, what do the never trump ers do now? where do they go? >> this is a tough moment, if you're a never trumper, because you could come away from 2016 going, whyou know what, it was weird, it was a fluke, it was a black swan event and then in 2020 you could even say he was the incumbent president, we stick with him. it is the moment where you have to realize, the old republican party is done, it is, this is -- we just witnessed the wake, we have seen the body, and it is donald trump clearing the field, and winning in these first two states, and that doesn't mean that a new party can't emerge in the future, that doesn't mean forever, nothing is forever in politics, but it is a moment of reckoning, this idea if you just work hard enough you can get the old party back in the short run, that dream is dead for the short term. >> that's why we see nikki haley as this sort of walking ghost, i

one of the names they put in was liz cheney. and liz cheney if chris christie had some appeal as an independent candidate, it would probably be the same voters liz cheney would have appeal to. and the trump lead expanded. it expanded to double digits in michigan when they threw that name on the ballot. that gives us a hint. >> they don't like trump enough but not that much. like chris sununu. they'll vote for the republican over the democrat every time. it's great to see you. thank you for your time and thoughts. still more to come tonight as nikki haley takes that number 2 spot in the republican primary or edges very close to it. is she actually ever going to take on donald trump? >>> plus, we'll have some breaking news as the u.s. and a coalition of allies strike at iran-backed militants who have been attacking ships in the red sea to protest israel's invasion of gaza. is it the beginning of a wider war? war? after advil: let's dive in! but...what about your back? it's fineeeeeeee! [splash] before advil: advil dual action figh

he's been threatened, as has liz cheney.reats and dealt with it, but they're examples of quiet courage. i think they'll end up doing the right thing for america. this is not about donald trump. it's really about who we are as a country. the president expressed that in one of his most powerful speeches. this is a moral test for the country. and you know, i think the path for biden's re-election is looking clearer and clearer. you had recent polls that shows biden's approval ratings in new hampshire and pennsylvania are at 38% and he's winning by nine points. i think you're going to see that more and more as the choice becomes more apparent. >> it's going to be a very interesting test for this country, whether or not people are willing to elect somebody who is 91 counts in as an accused criminal and maybe gets convicted, whether they're good with that, and will put that man back in the white house. stuart stevens, always a pleasure. >>> coming up, a new report provides a closer look at the post-roe realities that would be shoc

>> liz cheney is a great example. liz cheney is a rock rib conservative. from the party. she was the number three republican, she was driven from the party, not because she was not sufficiently opposed to abortion rights, she's antichoice, not because she was insufficiently committed to tax cuts or whatever else the republican party stands for, she was in favor of everything the republican party stands for. the only thing she did was said that the events of january 6th was a national disgrace and that was enough to replace her with a woman, elise stefanik, not nearly as conservative, she now is, but who refers to the perpetrators of january 6th who have been convicted as hostages. >> i want to show you what new hampshire governor chris sununu, a republican who endorsed nikki haley, had to say in reaction to ronna mcdaniel. >> with all due respect to ronna mcdaniel to call it after two states, 40 states to go, the head of the republican party saying we don't want to hear from all the other republicans in the nation because it is getting too close, that's no

liz cheney on friday would not go so far as to say that she supports taking trump off the ballot but she did say his actions clearly constituted an offense that is within the language of the 14th amendment, unquote. my guess covering you for some time, you probably prefer that that be left up to the voters. but setting that aside, do you think that donald trump engaged in insurrection? >> i've never called what happened on january 6 an insurrection. and it is noteworthy that even in the federal case in washington, d.c., the president hasn't been charged with insurrection. jake, i was there. it was a riot. the way it broke out and i've never seen it any other way. and while i said that the president's words were reckless and i believe that haze history the american people will hold him to account for his role in that day, i think the efforts to take the decision away from the american people are antithetical to the democracy that the president biden and many democracies talk about wanting to defend. i'm confident that the american people will choose wisely and that we'll run our elect

but so it's it's it's it's consistent with what liz cheney is describing. kevin mccarthy telling her at that moment, which is he went there because he's depressed. he did. you know, he's not even. but by the way, trump has put out a statement correcting liz cheney on this. have you seen that yet that he actually. a lot. yeah. the problem was he was eating too much. he said anyway and it wasn't depressed. i was angry, he said, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. that's actually kind of believable, you know. okay. i'm jumping all over the place, but i'm just trying to. i'm going through the things that i thought were so. fascinating. i love the way that look how this book is marked up. i know i'm such a dork. you can take the girl out of gw, but you can't get the gw out of the girl. okay, so reinstatement. oh, yeah. wow. this was this was an actual thing. yeah. that people on the web or the web. i sound like i'm 100 people on the internet. world wide web. what member would ted stevens used to say? the tubes and the tubes. yeah, that too. okay. so that people so

. >> former wyoming congresswoman liz cheney spoke about her plans for the 2024 election season and the state of u.s. democracy during a conversation with the "wall street journal" ceo council. she also discussed congressional legislation and weighed in on the likely matchup between

she's not going to go the full liz cheney. >> no, what are her options?ne, donald trump loses in 2024 and she looks like the person who was right all along. i was the cassandra who happened to be correct, he could not win the election. the other is that -- and it is the last panel about this, something happens to trump, tbd and he's not the nominee and she's in second place. those are her options. what she is doing right now, kicking off what dan was saying, when is last time you saw someone have a new york fundraiser in a brand that's anti-establishment. she is running a very smart campaign. donald trump has helped her with the heavy-handed move by the rnc that lasted a couple of hours, by letting her position herself as a rebel inside the party who doesn't want the big boys, the fellows to pick the nominee. it is a message great, i stood up when no one else would and i was right. >> that's a great point. you said something about the rnc move we'll get to in a second. there was a great moment you had on your show with katelyn dawson, a well-known republi

that's what liz cheney says at least. senator, thankical. you on thisnk you o breaking news night. >> we appreciate it. and tonight, we will havking nee friday night news. >> customs and border patrol patrased the recory nighws dumpg official december border encounter numbers 302,034. . >> so what would a trump administration do right nosow? t any new piece of it without any new piece of legislation to fix the without congress is help. stephen miller, former trump senior adviserwielped?sena and america first legal president, joins me now. stephen laid outamerica legal pe three things you do right away very simply.>> one, reinstate remain in mexico to, reinstate safe. third, agreements that categorically invalidatreme all asylum claims for covered aliens and allow for the immediate expulsiored alien three reinstate title 42 citingo all of the diseases coming across the border, which allows you to deport anyonehe inclu instantaneously, including unaccompanied alien children. i want to give you a couple more tha alien shoulvet are impm prosecut

now you're seeing that possibly liz cheney met with witnesses prior to, which is a complete violation. >> congressman, aren't you -- i don't know if i wanted to get into a back and forth over january 6th, but just last weekend we were showing this new footage of some of the rioters going face to face with markwayne mullin and troy nells, i believe, when all that was going down. it must irk you when you hear some of your colleagues talk about this being a tourist visit and they were just sort of -- that the rioters were let into the capitol and everything. you must think -- you're from knoxville. you must think that's hogwash. >> tell me to quit using terms like that because folks up north don't understand what i'm talking about. yeah. anybody crossed those barriers, they were trespassing. that's pure and simple. they were breaking the law. but -- >> they were doing more than that. >> there was some that were let in and some that were let out. i'm not going to -- i don't want to get into all that because, like i said, if they crossed that line, they were trespassing. if the police told

that is what liz cheney says, at least. senator, thank you on this breaking news night.ight, we have friday night news dump, customs and border's patrol with record breaking encounter numbers, 302,034. so what would a trump administration do right now with any new piece -- without any new legislation to fix the border without congress has helped? senior advisor in america first legal president joins me know, stephen, lay it out three things you would do right away. >> very simply, one, reinstate remain in mexico. two reinstate agreements that categorically validate the asylum claims for covered aliens and allow for intermediate expulsion. three, reinstate title 42 citing all of the disease is coming across the border, which allows you to deport anyone including an alien shoulder. i want to give a couple of more important, four prosecute, prosecute, prosecute put a lien illegal aliens in jail. it is a massive deterrent and five, almost most illegal aliens are not from mexico but mexicans you reinstate interior deportations. don't fly them back to the north but to the sout

a comment which prompted thi response from former congresswoman liz cheney.civil war could have been negotiated? the slavery part? the secession part? whether lincoln should have preserved the union? questions for members of the gop, the party of lincoln, who have endorsed donald trump. how can you possibly defend this?" cheney getting to the point that underscores all of this. it's not just trump. white supremacy is now inextricably linked to today's republican party. just recently trump's primary opponent nikki haley, the former governor of south carolina, did not acknowledge slavery as the cause of the civil war. we've seen those in the gop launch attacks on school curriculums, trying to deny the true history of black americans. we've seen them engage with about white supremacists, espouse hateful rhetoric, go after immigrants, meaning the fight for freedom and justice is very much ongoing. as president biden recognized today. >> we can't just choose to learn what we want to know and not what we should know. we should know the good, the bad, the truth of w

an advertisement for liz cheney in her wyoming primary. she is worthy of retelling the country that she is a person of principle. she lost her entire career. so have i. but for dgothe difference is i am a desk in a position to use that to our country's benefit. with your housing, i empathize. i am sorry that so many generations have failed so many. it should no put food on the table, save a little bit to bring your kids to disney world. that is the american dream and i will work my damnest to bring it back. >> we have time for one more question. >> i am rick. thank you for being with us. you seem to characterize our biggest problem is the duopoly between two competing, relatively incompetent politicals. no offense intended, but both parties struggle, including her --your boss who is not here this cycle. what do you think of nonpartisan primaries and rank-choice voting is a mechanism that might help? >>glad you brought that up. there is this belief that you somehow have to change the laws at a federal level. to change the nonsense. but how

she's the woman republicans replaced liz cheney with. you want the trajectory of the republican party. look at liz cheney and said we would rather have her. what she is doing is clearly auditioning aggressively for this by proving to donald trump that she's not just loyal but she will mimic ask he says. she will defend anything no matter how indefensible. and the other day, she was defending his use of the term hostages to describe the january 6th rioters who beat up police officers. she defended his use of the phrase poisoning the blood in reference to immigrants. she's made it clear to donald trump, i will be your doppleganger. i will be your mini me. it is remarkable because she is this harvard educated, one-time normie republican who has decided, who has embraced her inner opportunism so aggressively, and this is what donald trump wants. donald trump, when he's looking for a environment, what does he want? he wants somebody who will not exercise any independence or be unpredictable, who won't do what mike pence did. he wants somebody

>> he will be doing what liz cheney is doing. >> but they could impact republican voters where joe biden is never going to impact them. >> and they made this point on my program tonight, which i thought was taken about this role, it is one of the things that trump does very effectively, that he forces the issue. you're either pro trump or anti trump. you can't be in this liminal space of i'm a republican, and you are now a never trumper. kristie is freshly off of this, and has a space to try to make an argument to a certain set of voters for whom, for instance, liz cheney has already been fully converted into never trumper. you know what i mean? i think it is a tight window. being less republican than chris christie. >> but who is paying him to do that? when you think about chris christie for the next nine months. >> the only thing that matters if he goes to new hampshire and says anyone who thought about supporting, we think about supporting joe biden. really, honestly, it's not even about the republican party anymore. it's abou

i will use the liz cheney example, as well. i covered her primary against hearing. men statistics show that anywhere between 14% of independents may have given liz cheney a boost in that race. she still lost by 39 points. the question here is, in new hampshire, are there enough anti trump independents to come and sway? this democrats, it is too late for them to change the registration. at this point in time the situation for nikki haley, even if she does come close, or, when it's difficult. in primaries ahead, independents and a great mayor states are not able to vote in republican primaries. in the case of south carolina where they are able to, democrats are pushing for democrats to come in and vote for joe biden in the democratic primary. which would keep that in the republican party. that was a really tough strategy for nickel having to deploy to try to actually pull off a win against donald trump. >> you referenced the exchange we had with elise stefanik. sergeant play a little bit for our viewers. take a listen. >> how are you standing by sign his side while if

one of the names they put it was liz cheney.chris christie has some appeal as an independent candidate, it would probably beat the same voters liz cheney would appeal to -- so i think, that gives us a hint of where christy might -- >> they don't like trump enough, but not that much. like chris sununu, they'll vote for the republican over the democrat, every single time. okay, steve kornacki, we are going to be hearing a lot from you. and that delights me, even as though democracy might be circling around the drain. thank you for your thoughts. still more to come tonight's neck and it takes at number two spot in that republican primary, or it is very close to it. is she actually ever going to take on donald trump? plus, some breaking news as that u.s. and a coalition of allies strike at iran-backed militant attacking ships in the right seat to protest israel's invasion of gaza. is it the beginning of a wider war? the gum experts. want the power of 5 serum benefits in 1? olay super serum activates on skin to hydrate, smooth, visib

and i see liz cheney is giving some money, great.ll for it. >> we're gonna do a cheers to the koch brothers and liz cheney in 2024. welcome to 2024! there is where we are. let me ask you just about the haley voters, we saw in new hampshire, we looked at the data, the numbers, kind of interesting. some of those people basically said, i voted for haley, but i'm gonna support biden. some of them were not quite there on biden. do you think that's fertile ground? do you think the biden team should be focused on that group? there's a lot of groups you have to focus on, you have to win the most electoral votes of course. >> so a lot of people who voted for our republicans. i think generally about republicans. but you have a substantial number who say they can't vote for trump. guess what? welcome, we won't -- if you can get us, a stretch to the constitution, we can go back, fight over the tax cuts, or fight over the minimum wage, or whatever the fights we had in the past. but right now, jen, we are in a fight for the constitution of the uni

he's got to get back to center right, liz cheney, republican, or take the third-party temptation. but just as important, he's going to have to face the challenge on his left flank on by jeff stein and maybe cornell west. i think biden is going to have to either find a way to get a cease-fire in the middle east and or get bb out of office. otherwise he's going to face perhaps the biggest threat, he has with voters under 40. i don't think biden can win next year. if stein and west are on the ballot and the war in the middle east is still waging. >> just a precondition to the hardest battle is get a cease-fire, get bibi eyed of odd office, to say this is going to be a challenging political environment is an understatement. my friends, please come back. jennifer palmieri, and jonathan -- , thank you both for your time, my friends. a lot more this evening including a potential bombshell through a trump codefendant in the georgia county criminal prosecution. what does it mean for fani willis? plus, donald trump will not b allowed to turn a new york courtroom into a campaign stop tomorro

again, this isn't liz cheney saying it. this isn'te iting it in a book. >> it's dan scavino. >> dan scavino refuses to talk to the january six committee -- this is an eyewitness account under oath from somebody who is as close to the president, the former president, as anybody. and he is still with him until this day. >> still with him to this day. one of the other pieces you are reporting was about trump's response to mike pence, his vice president, the threat of him being hanged and under threat from people. and in your reporting, per dan scavino, he said, so what? that was trump's response. >> tremendous reporting from the abc news investigative team. i want to say, fantastic reporting. nick luna was one of the president's, former presidents body man. he was his personal assistant. and nick luna is the person that tells trump on january 6th that mike pence had to be evacuated from the senate chamber and taken to a secure location because of the violence at the capitol. and the response, again, according to nick luna, ano

. >> this is what liz cheney is trying to figure out.to fix the conservative movement and to reenergize the conservative movement outside of trump? can you do it within the party? no. he's remade this party right now. another nomination makes it very difficult. so i think if you're liz cheney and you're trying to change the party and change the movement, i don't know that you can do it from the inside. we'll find out if we keep going. once again, we only had one state, but wow, that was a much different electorate than even what iowa looked like. >> it sure is. when you look at evangelical voters which you break down in this piece, as well. if you look at what happened between iowa and new hampshire, one the big pieces of news was tim scott endorsing president trump. i typically wouldn't ask you about an endorsement, about you this endorsement is significant for the timing and the optics of it. what it implies. >> tim scott became a u.s. senator because nikki haley appointed then congressman tim scott and granted there was a lot of suppo

she was just -- liz cheney, can you believe it?ed me i would say no i don't want that. >> nikki haley in donald trump wrapping up their attacks against each other as the next primary in nevada's next tuesday, but as the delegate count poses challenges for nikki haley, will she make it past south carolina? does she still have a path to victory? joining me now is political columnist and host of the podcast with friends like these, honorary -- and then mark leibovich, welcome you both. anna, i know you've said the in the past that kelly is a stronger candidate than people give her credit for and that a biden haley matchup and make you more nervous than a biden trump matchup, but as you can see it the odds seem stacked against her. do you still see a pass path when she moves past south carolina and hangs on through super tuesday, march 5th? >> i think we've all learned that anything can happen. >> true. >> i don't want to say no, but it seems unlikely. i do think that she would be just as dangerous as a vice presidential candidate as s

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bush, dick cheney and his daughter liz cheney and even bill kristol, because of their supposed brave stanzas against president trump -- stances against president trump. had donald trump bombed tehran, overthrown assad, i believe liz cheney and bill kristol would be chanting "stop the steal." i think the worst thing is the fact that there has not been a repudiation of the mindset that led us to the war in iraq. in particular, the belief that american power has no limits and that the united states should behave like it does not have any constraints on its power. there is still a belief, even if it is more whispered then shouted, that -- than shouted, that the u.s. alone can impose democracy in a top-down manner, whether through armed force or other means, and that it will still somehow be successful despite the debacles in iraq and afghanistan. for many of our foreign policymaking elites, it is not a question, it is simply a question of willpower, not of resources, capabilities or prioritization, it is just our will to do something is our only constraint. we see this most prevalent in

the other thing is we saw chris christie, if you will, go liz cheney tonight. he took down the republican party. he took down every candidate who is supporting trump. and my sources close to the campaign say do not expect an endorsement of nikki haley unless all of the sudden nikki haley becomes a never trumper. i don't think -- >> she is being very careful. the other day in the town hall chaos follows him. unclear whether to say he created the chaos or followed him. she very careful. >> he did more than that, because not only did he name names, people that he felt enabled the president, but he used the term "enabled," right. he said this thing that i did followed me. and i could never get away from it, the supporting of this president. and he also used the idea and the theme overall, this is done on hot mic that ambition had taken over his goals, over everything else. so he is actually calling out the very value system that he thinks is at play in the party right now. and i think that that is actually pretty profound and does feel different if there what we've

he posted," crazy liz cheney, who suffers from trump dera derangement syndrome at a level rarely seenefore, writes in her boring new book that kev-en mccarthy said he came to mar-a-lago after the rigged election because the former president was depressed and not eating. that statement is not true. i was not depressed, i was angry, and it was not that i was not eating, it was that i was eating too much." that's why they send kevin in. for once, i believe something he's saying. [ laughter and applause ] why would he even mention this? i guess he can't resist. whatever someone says, he has to say the opposite. he can't help it. call him unstable. call him dumb. he says, "i'm a stable genius." mention his crowd was small, he says it was the biggest in history. say he wasn't eating, he says, "i was eating too much." for no reason! i would like to have some fun with this and see what we can get them to contradict. [ laughter ] like i say trump looks terrible in women's shoes. and he's like," no one looks better than trump in women's shoes!" [ laughter and applause ] "when i wear pumps, peop