where's liz cheney when you need her? sounds like insurrection. >> a good question shown sounds like insurrection to me in the governor tim walz promoted the black lives matter rioters who set minneapolis on fire destroyed a lot of black businesses and wealth in these historically black neighbourhoods and it really caused poverty to skyrocket in minneapolis. the fact he was supporting rioters burning down minneapolis' harris but tried to bail them out of prison they are the wrong team for the country we don't want that nationwide. >> sean: senator we appreciate your time and know you have a busy day out travelling in a

liz cheney know liz cheney, but i wouldn't read too much into that. >> liz cheney, as we know, has said repeatedly, she will do anything and everything to make sure donald trump never goes back to the oval office i expect we will see a lot of heard this fall that she will play a major role, especially in battleground states. and this part always makes me laugh she has said that she will be working very, very hard to make sure that democrats are elected to the house and senate oh, fascinating part of this convention. jamie, thank you so much for the reporting. and let's talk now with david urban. ashley allison. david, we just heard from senator brian schatz of hawaii. when he said he looks at all these republicans were going to be speaking he said he thinks it gives a permission structure to some republican voters to vote for kamala harris. do you agree? >> no by the way, to jamie's point about the democrats being jealous of adam kinzinger spot. i know one person was very jealous. joe biden but he had that spot as opposed to 11, 30 last night when no one was watching, it was late. >> li

where's liz cheney when you need her?like insurrection. >> a good question shown sounds like insurrection to me in the governor tim walz promoted the black lives matter rioters who set minneapolis on fire destroyed a lot of black businesses and wealth in these historically black neighbourhoods and it really caused poverty to skyrocket in minneapolis. the fact he was supporting rioters burning down minneapolis' harris but tried to bail them out of prison they are the wrong team for the country we don't want that nationwide. >> sean: senator we appreciate your time and know you have a busy day out travelling in a deep and out every day pretty much thank you when we come back rhonda santos reacts to kamala harris vp pick wait until you hear his nickname that he just gave the ticket straight ahead. before apoquel chewable for allergic itch. giving dogs pills was a battle of wits. oh, maria, i'm wise to your foolish game. is it gone? totally gone. itch relief just got easier. apoquel. the trusted number one treatment for aller

where's liz cheney when you need her?ke insurrection. >> a good question shown sounds like insurrection to me in the governor tim walz promoted the black lives matter rioters who set minneapolis on fire destroyed a lot of black businesses and wealth in these historically black neighbourhoods and it really caused poverty to skyrocket in minneapolis. the fact he was supporting rioters burning down minneapolis' harris but tried to bail them out of prison they are the wrong team for the country we don't want that nationwide. >> sean: senator we appreciate your time and know you have a busy day out travelling in a deep and out every day pretty much thank you when we come back rhonda santos reacts to kamala harris vp pick wait until you hear his nickname that he just gave the ticke nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid before it begins. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. somebody would ask her something and she would just walk right past them. she d

we can survive, as liz cheney said.stitution. that is the basis of what i believe in now. >> it so interesting to listen to you gentlemen. i think there is a tyrant and tight conventional wisdom that voters, the real voters don't care about things like foreign- policy or democracy, they care about kitchen table issues. here you are talking about foreign-policy, robert talking about democracy. let me come back to you, kyle. interesting imagine that. a lot of times, again, the conventional wisdom is people don't really care that much about it. what specifically was there something where you started to be like this is not right? >> i started to pay attention to trump and basically his orbit and the things they say. it was startling how they were pushing the same talking points as russia. i started to look back at trump's record trying to come after freedom of speech and tie it into funding in 2020. all of those things. i don't think people understand that a lot of these things affect the prices that we have now that involv

high-ranking republicans who don't support trump who aren't on this list, republicans for harris, liz cheneyryan. do you anticipate any of those signing on? >> i think we've still got some time until november. i think the sooner, the better. i hope -- i hope that those voices will join this chorus and support her. i think they could make a big difference. and in terms of mike pence, i do think that in some ways, i think what he's done speaks volumes by the fact that he's not endorsed donald trump and said he won't. i think it would be incredibly powerful if people like him and paul ryan, who've had tremendous support for in the past, and liz cheney would say, we support kamala harris and it's the right thing to do for our country, our democracy, and at this moment, let's put our policy differences aside and go back to actually serious governing once we get past this because we're not going to have this under donald trump. we could go back to debating about different policies, whether it's foreign policy or how we feel. but right now, we've got to save the country and make it better. >> olivi

when you see people like my friend adam come to the dnc, it was not a coincidence that adam and liz cheneys on the select committee, i actually introduced the bill that would have permitted a bipartisan equally divided commission rather than a politically run select committee and because i did that it is one of the reasons donald trump endorsed against me and i was one of the original people selected to serve at the selective committee but nancy pelosi decided at the time that she wanted adam and liz who she had talked to before the committee was put together to be two of the republicans. and that is ok, it is her prerogative to do so. it's a terrible precedent she said by having the majority party selects what the minority members would be on the committee but in the end, this is adam kinzinger, this is jeff duncan, and the other republicans who were here will be here because they have an extreme dislike for donald trump, and that is ok. but let's see long-term if they will remain republican or be like stephanie grisham and say i am now democrat. i think once you speak at a democratic not

where's liz cheney whenon you need her? >> because that sounds like insurrection. question short. >> it sounds like insurrection to me, too. he >> and governor walz actually promoted the black set im wal who setrs minneapolis on fire destroyed a lot of black businesses, destroyed a lot of wealth in these historically black neighborhoods. histally blaand really caused ty to skyrocket in minneapolis. >> the fact that he waswa supporting the rioters burning down minneapolis and then kamalatingrning do harris was tg to bail them out of prison, suggested the wrong team for f this country. >> we don't want that approach taken nationwide. we wanall right, senator vance,m appreciate your time tonight. and i know you've had a busy day,d e but traveling i know you'll be on the road pretty much every day. thank you. all righry pre t. when we come back, florida t governor ron desantis reacts to kamala harris, vpo kamala pim >> wait until you hear his nickname that he just gave the ticket. that's straight ahead. we are here in las vegas for the largest power slap event yet. sla

where was liz cheney? the list goes on and on.ut there has always been something holding him back to take that center stage, to actually forcefully, not just announce trump, but back harris, do you see any of that change in? and to richard's point, does it even matter? >> i don't see a change in, i mean, if every prominent republican, who inwardly, secretly despises donald trump and thinks it is dangerous for the country in the world, had spoken at the democratic convention, there wouldn't have been any room for democrats to speak. i mean, they are-- you know, it's not like there's a shortage of these people, but it is very clear at this point, after years, that many of them are not going to come out, they are going to remain in exile, or in the closet i guess. and i don't-- does it make a difference that this group came out? i think just very marginally. i think-- insofar that it is trying to create a permission structure for establishment republican voters, who are-- who really don't want to vote for either trump or harris to ju

and liz cheney. for what they did to give testimony on january 6.e voter this year. while these other things are important -- he has his job cut out for him. host: you're single issue is never trump? caller: generally six, yeah -- january 6, yeah. these hearings told me, rusty bowers is an honest man, he was an eagle scout and raised four sons as an eagle scout. there was something called a duty to god award and they don't just hand those things out. he is an honest man. host: what would you think if nikki haley had been the nominee for the republicans? caller: yeah, i would have gone for haley. can i read one thing? host: we've got a lot of calls stacked up, appreciated, sorry. eugene from south carolina, republican line. caller: sure. man needs to repent of his sins. second thing is this, the fact that when they showed harris and them, they were showing the crowd in the arena but trump asked of them -- but when trump asked them to show the crowd they won't do it. when trump had a rally in atlanta, he had two black people go to the stage. one that

bush, liz cheney, and the list goes on and on? people who privately and sometimes publicly made it clear they disagree with donald trump, would never vote for him again, but there's always been something holding them back from taking the center stage, whether political ambition or not, but to forcefully denounce trump and back harris. to richard point, does it even matter? >> i don't see it changing. if every prominent republican who inwardly, secretly despises donald trump and thinks he is dangerous for the country and the world, had spoken at the democratic convention, there wouldn't have been any room for democrats to speak. you know, it's not like there's a shortage of these people. but it's very clear at this point, after years, that many of them are not going to come out. they're going to remain in exile or in the closet, i guess, and i don't -- does it make a difference that this group came out? i think very marginally. i think in so far as they're trying to create a permission structure for establishment republican voters

there are big names like mcmaster, kelly, liz cheney, and others. there's confusion over this.t they are not ready to? what's going on? >> we would welcome the support of any of these republicans were patriotic people who believe in the country and our founding principles and to see donald trump for the danger that he is. the unhinge dangerous person he is. you talked about hr mcmaster, this was his national security adviser and he said he is a dangerous guy. we hope is a campaign that welcomes those people in your mention 250 romney, mccain, bush alumni who endorsed her today. four star general who served under george w. bush in his first ever presidential endorsement today. this follows atkins finger and others who spoke of the convention last week, i cannot think of another time reconvention had so many bipartisan speakers electrifying the country. as a campaign goes on, you will see more patriotic republicans who stand up and say, we may not agree on every issue, but she's a patriot and believes in the country and the constitutional order. right now is the time for country

sorry liz cheney.nt with the 1 who called him a racist for opposing busing, never guessing someday she would chuck him under 1. now they scream when we point out the yes kamala was a dea higher. the dems demand diversity but then it's your fault for noticing. finally how about when a male prisoner who talks his way into a women's prison where he goes around raping everybody. is it his fault, then they'd these send those fault? no it is yours for noticing. the dems embrace policies that once exposed to make them look bad. so they call you racist. fact is if they can pass a law that would throw you in jail every time you notice there [ bleep ] they would do it tomorrow. [ cheering and applause ] >> let's welcome tonight's guest. she once interned as music box ballerina. america's newsroom dana perino. women throw their borrowers at him because they want him to wear a bra. comedian joe matthews. he's had more ups and downs than opera's weight. comedian dave landau. she's got a book and a baby on the way.

liz cheney if you saw it would call it an insurrection how in god's name can you watch your city burninght after night and do nothing. there were burnt out buildings still in minnesota small businesses ruined forever he was never held accountable either were the violent rioters they got a get out of jail free card and few rioters actually ever prosecuted or sentenced to jail more recently from 2021 and 2023 they made multiple donations to a d.c. illegal nonprofit that calls for police to be defunded. with century city policies with semi different issues when asked about the effort to make minnesota a century state including drivers licenses for illegals, health care for illegals will anybody asked tim wells about his creepy mandates the puts tampons in but public school bathrooms for boys no wonder people are calling them tampon tim about the one he had for gender altering surgery and puberty blockers for young kids and supportive late-term abortion up to the moment of birth. what about his plan to crack down on so-called hate speech take a look. >> years ago it was telling people to vot

you know, and they are going to bring up, i think it's important, everybody from liz cheney to you now, to understand that the republicans will try to make attacks on your character, and that's what their campaign is about. they are really small on policy detail, really big on character assassination, and you know, as far as, i mean i'm aware of tim walz's career. i was there from the moment he went to congress until now, and he's a man of integrity, and he has always put others before himself. >> attorney general, we only have a couple minutes left, but a lot of people when they were trying to guess who vice president harris would pick as her running mate they were looking to who could get a swing state. minnesota isn't a swing state the way pennsylvania is, that michigan is, that arizona is, so what does governor walz bring to the ticket? that will give the harris-walz to get a leg up ? >> he is kind of a swiss army knife. you can send him anywhere you want, he's very flexible. i can tell you, jonathan, if he was in the heart of african american north minneapolis, he would be accepte

. >> and look, i think liz cheney nailed it during the january 6th hearings, when she said, the staintions supporting this illiberal president is on us, as a party, and i think the country, you know, in quiet ways, still remembers that and still looks at that, which is why this moment is so freeing and so many respect. a comment during the break about james comey. former-- what is his role? >> he was head of the fbi. >> director. >> coming out and saying, you know, this, less speech was like the first time, you know, he has had that morning in america feeling in a long time. and so, i think this moment is transitional for a lot of us. and we have joe biden, yet again, once again to thank for that. and at his own personal sacrifice in his political career. >> and i just want to reiterate, yet again, while some people were playing checkers, joe biden is playing chess. a lot of folks want this open convention and the president said i put my trust in my faith in the vice president of the united dates, because she is ready to serve, and vice president harris has risen to the occasion, but

they will bring up a lot of, i think it is important from everybody to liz cheney to aoc, to understand that the republicans are going to try to make attacks on your character and that is what their campaign is about. they are real small on policy detail, really big on character assassination and all the other lies they told. as far as, i'm aware of tim walz's career, i was there from the moment he went to congress to now and he is a man of integrity and will put others before himself. >> attorney general, only a couple minutes left, a lot of people when they were trying to guess who vice president harris would pick as a running mate, they were looking to who could get a swing state, minnesota isn't a swing state the way that pennsylvania is, michigan, arizona is, what does governor walz bring to the ticket that will give the harris/walz to get a leg up? >> is kind of a swiss army knife, you can send it anywhere you want a he is very flexible. i can tell you, jonathan, if he was in the heart of african american minneapolis, you know that neighborhood because you know minnesota, he would

sure, we have had republicans like liz cheney switch but that is not over policy that his personalityey cannot accept trump as more popular than they are. sadly for them, so is hepatitis c. cartoonist scott adams compares it to people going from windows to mack. the migration is one way and once you have gone over you never return because switching back would be like going from this to this. now there is another former left that you all know who came to his senses. me. like a lot of us know i was liberal in my campus days before i had to face the real world. then i saw the half equation of liberalism, the pie in the sky demands that leave all the second part of the equation witches who pays for [beep]. that is when somebody explained to me where taxes come from. that's not forget the biggest former democrat of them all, donald j trump, used to mingle with sets of democrats in nyc but after decades of watching their party rock from the inside he took his joy enormous pair of balls and went home. has the dems whine about losing rfk they have only themselves to blame. because they can on

but those are -- we can fix -- we can get by with bad policy, survive it as liz cheney said.for what i believe in now. >> it's so interesting to listen to you two. there is this i think a little tired and trite, you know, pundit conventional wisdom, like, the real voters don't care about foreign policy or democracy. they care about kitchen table issues. you are talking about your trajectories. let me come back on kyle, foreign policy. interesting you mentioned that because a lot of times again the conventional wisdom is people don't care that much about it. what specifically -- was it the ukraine war? was there something you started to be, like, this not right that got you? >> yeah. so i just started to pay attention to trump and basically his orbit and the things they say. and it was startling how they were pretty much pushing the same talking points as russia. you know, i start to look back at trump's record on s-230, trying to come after freedom of speech and tie it into funding in 2020. you know, all those things. and the tariffs and the trade and all that. i don't think

is about the sanctity of our elections, it is what brought sort of the first type of republican, liz cheneylican lightning rods on the pro- democracy side. what is your sense of how much is achievable? >> nicole, i am inspired. i am actually inspired by the conversations. i am inspired by the mayor who was having these conversations with the fox news watchers. that is what needs to happen. we need to be reaching these voters and having these just one on one conversations with them on the center-right side. i think, you know, in michigan, i was there with the vice president last month and i saw her extend that olive branch to republican women and conservative women in that moment and i saw her speak in a way that is, you know, empathetic and impactful and understanding of how conservatives differ on the views. i also saw her say, you are welcome, as part of this coalition. that is what vice president harris is trying to do. we are saying, we don't have to all agree on everything but the one thing we do agree on, we want a better future for our country, we want to strengthen our democracy. we

it's what brought sort of the first high-profile republican liz cheney and adam kinzinger to the side rods on the pro- democracy side. what is your sense of how much is achievable? >> nicole, i'm inspired. i'm actually inspired by the conversations and i'm inspired by the mayor whose having these conversations with the fox news watchers because i think that is what makes it happen. we need to be reaching these voters and having these one-on- one conversations with them on the center right side. i was in michigan with the vice president last month. i saw her extend the olive branch to republican women and conservative women in that moment and i saw her speaking in a way that was, you know, empathetic and impactful an understanding of how conservatives differ in views. but she also said you are welcome as part of this coalition and i think that's what republicans are trying to do. we are saying we don't all have to be agreeing on everything, but the one thing we agree on is that we want a better future for our country, we want to strengthen our democracy, and also we want a better futur

i think he specified how he would like to see liz cheney face televised military tribunal. you are absolutely right that trump and his allies have been very clear about what they intend to do. they even have a plan for their transition, project 2025. hundreds of pages online for us all to see. to what degree do you see a relationship between project 2025 and what they've outlined there, trump's plans for political retribution if he wins, and the majority decision in this case? marc: they're intertwined. these opinions are the ac sell rant for project 2025. project 2025 is fundamentally about making a trump administration in 2025 more efficient and being authoritarian. i think a lot of conservatives looked at the first trump administration and thought, you know, how much more ruthless and effective they could have been if they'd been more organized. and project 2025 is basically an effort to bring organizational skill and ideological framework to what is basically an authoritarian movement. and so in order to achieve that, in order for project 2025 to succeed, it needs two t

independents, what other republicans call rhinos, give me a break if you think adam kinzinger or liz cheney the party you thought you were supporting, lies are lies. you want to vote for felon or somebody that said awful things about women, held liable for rape, behind january 6, loves dictators. those are insane things. stop voting for crazy. look at the future, maybe the best way to save the republican party is to make sure you vote for sanity and get rid of the virulent trumpism. >> you're making that case very clear how you are talking to other republicans. you were a former intelligence officer for the air force. i want to get your take on how military service is playing up in this presidential race as a veteran, what do you make of the trump campaign attacks on governor walz's military record and should governor walz say that he misspoke or are republicans unfairly criticizing ? >> yamiche, it is the same people. i talked about january 6th, look at the campaign manager for donald trump, chris lacivita, the same person who pushed the swiftboat strategies against john kerry. the same pe

you'll find liz cheney poolside at mar-a-lago before a kamala harris press conference.achel: it's interesting, because before joe biden's debate that essentially ended his presidency, the democrats were hinting we're not going to do debates. and suddenly they wanted to get rid of joe biden, and they threw him into a debate. they obviously want kamala that that -- to win. of course they do. so you think they might be able to keep her out of the debate in will the american people stand for that. >> they cannot stand for that. but i think they do not want her to debate, yet they're saying donald trump is a coward and doesn't want to debate kamala harris. the fact that kamala harris, again, doesn't take questions from the press, but, oh, yeah, donald trump's the coward. she is the coward. couldn't show up at the national association of black journalists because she knew there was a harris faulkner there that would ask a question relevant to the american people. rachel: anyone that can call president donald trump after the way he reacted to being shot in the head a coward is

. >> the january 6 situation, and the ones like fred and liz cheney and adam kinzinger, sometimes you have to vote against your constituents to do what is right too. so, you have that situation. >> and most did not survive. >> there are not many. so you have to do that too. and that is what you are therefore, you have to follow the rule of law. if you are not willing to do that, they are not paying you enough to violate the law. >> the question on the hastert rule, i always thought it was a silly thing, personally. i can point to several votes. we always told the majority to pass the bill. in 2013, i cannot tell you homie times i voted for a debt ceiling or a continued resolution with 29 to 85 votes of republicans and a whole bunch of democrats. so they imposed the hastert rule until they didn't, which was all the time. i would argue the spirit of hastert rule was never violated, because there was always the majority of people who supported what we were doing, just not a majority voting for what we were doing. [laughter] seriously, that was always the case. it is one of those things t

leave the maga world, you're immediately cast as a traitor and you are dismissed, whether it's liz cheneyam kinzinger, or anyone else, really. how do you feel when you go out there and you talk to them and you asked them about what about this from elegant? roman republican people horsing the trump is not good for this country? >> it's a question we ask a lot, why did bill barr find no evidence -- and well, he is a rino. trump appointed him? trump appointed him. but i keep going back and i'm thinking about the last 36 days. we were in butler, p.a. at the rally where the assassination attempt happened. we left before the shooting happened but when we got to the news of it, the whole nation was like, everything has changed right now. i think i thought, who is this donald trump that we are going to see at the republican national convention? who is he going to pick as his vp pick, he had the opportunity to pick someone like nikki haley that would widen the tent a little bit but he picked j.d. vance. like, basically, a senator, yes, but he is basically like a subpar podcast host who gets weirde

congressman adam consider has endorsed republicans for harris, what about former congresswoman liz cheney? >> yeah, i don't know. my guess is they might be waiting to roll her out in a special way later, you know, i'm not quite sure. all i know is what i know, and i know the data, i know the facts. and i think when you choose a president, it should be about facts. i also believe when you're looking at the sanity and the rationality and the radicalization use the from people that are surrounding him, everything that he says about the vice president, i think is absolutely horrid. you are looking at somebody that i think is cognitively impaired and somebody that is having real mental issues, and somebody who listens to the sun and pick somebody like jd vance i think should be a real issue for most americans based on this idea towards women. i think that's the other thing, too. as a girl dad, i think of my daughters, my wife, my granddaughters, i don't think there is a better pick than the vice president right now. >> do you think donald trump is regarding picking jd vance as his vice preside

only adam kinzinger and liz cheney have been the not.e. they use the majority of the republican elected officials in congress, they use the police officer as pawn. and it's a slap in the face of the sacrifice that we did. overall, nine people died at the capitol. four of my colleagues died due to the injuries or the trauma that they sustained that day. and even his own supporter died that day. but to answer your question, they have not reached out to us, the officers. just a photo op for them to say they support the police. everywhere else but the capitol. >> tim, the record is so clear. of donald trump's culpability for the combat that sergeant ganell went through that day and the fellow officers. what do you feel in terms of the potential or the prospect for real accountability for trumped role? >> i still think we're going to get there. i really do. this might sound like a long time adherent to the criminal justice system, someone who's worked within it for years, but i believe while it's moving too slowly and i wish we had gotten the

there is no incentive to do what mitt romney did and adam kinzinger and liz cheney, because they willd his base, so that's why we are in a situation where we will continue to descendent down this path, where they are not looking to help the american people. they are not looking to use political capital to lower costs or add jobs or make healthcare more affordable. it is solely doing whatever they have to do, saying whatever they have to say to consolidate power for themselves. >> what can be done to counteract that? >> i think the onus is on us to, one, recognize our agency in all of this. you just had marc elias on, who is a hero for democracy. he is fighting these battles in court, but he's also good at pointing out the fact that republicans are doing everything in their power from preventing americans from exercising their vote. they would not be trying so hard to suppress the vote if it was not such a potent tool. a story i like to tell is that in wisconsin in 2020, the difference between a biden in and a trump in, it was two votes per precinct. that is it. that is all that separa

president obama had a republican, and, frankly if you were to pick somebody, like liz cheney, not only would that show that she wants to have a bipartisan consensus, but it would drive donald trump nuts, so maybe she would have a double win if she were to go down that route. >> steve, i also want your reaction to another major story this weekend it was chinese president, xi jinping, holding a surprise meeting with the national security advisor, jake sullivan, the two sides discussing a number of politics including the war in ukraine, south china sea and safety of ai. according to training state media, president, xi jinping said he hopes sullivan will see china pesky development in a positive light. the two side also agreed to plan a phone call between xi jinping, and his u.s. counterpart, president joe biden, in the coming weeks. sullivan also says he hopes the report between u.s. and china will continue. >> our aim in every engagement with china is to deliver for the american people. under president biden's leadership, the united states has, and will continue to advance its interests

you leave trump or you leave maga world, you are cast as a traitor and dismissed whether it is liz cheneyadam kinzinger or anyone else. you have spoken to republicans. how do they feel when you go out there and talk to them and ask them well, what about this republican and prominent republicans are saying trump isn't good for this country. >> a question we said is why didn't bill barr find any evidence of voter fraud. i keep going back and we were in butler pennsylvania at the rally where the assassination attempt happened. we did look and he had the opportunity to pick somebody like nikki haley and widen this a little bit for the party but he picked jd vance like basically a senator and basically a subpar podcast host who gets weirder and weirder with every interview he does and current the his polling numbers are worse than sarah palin. and then donald trump says i don't think i have changed from the shooting but i have actually gotten worse. i think a lot of moderate republicans that hear that, they think this guy has gotten worse? the guy that may be wanted to go to nikki haley now an

last month he called for public military tribunals of liz cheney here. this isn't new.re two months out from an election and for anybody to suggest retribution is not on donald trump's mind, go to his social media account because this is where he has direct control over what he can post and repost. when i talk about two months out, donald trump is laying the groundwork, katy, claiming election interference saying google is already having election interference. superseding indictment from jack smith is election interference. the gag order in the upcoming sentencing in lower manhattan here from judge merchan is election interference. he's calling the fake ai images that he claimed kamala harris posted of her crowds, which of course were not fake, he said those were election interference and she should be f claiming the 2024 election was stolen and while the focussing could very well be on the indictment that jack smith has brought before him for election interference of the last case, donald trump clearly is looking towards -- >> not just those around him saying his oppon

last month he called for the public military tribunal of liz cheney, for sedition and perjury of january 6th select committee members, members of congress, calling for the military tribunal of barack obama. the sexist and degrading post that you mentioned there about kamala harris and hillary clinton, interestingly, if you will, this afternoon, it appears to have been unreposted, yet, the was up for about 24 hours. and it's not often that donald trump takes down anything, but he didn't take down any of the posts in which he called for the prosecution and arrest of jack smith. i think it's important here, our job, as you have on the campaign trail, katy, is to cover the republican nominee for president of the united states. while some may dismiss this as being social media reposts of memes, at the same time, these are words of donald trump. and speech of donald trump. and if he were to get back into the white house, he would have the department of justice where some of his strongest allies have called on him to use it in a way that's been untraditionally used in decades past, and that wou

our liz cheney was with him, and she had to make a stop to buy a doll for her daughter, whose birthday it was. and so there was a vice president. nice day. darth vader himself shopping for a doll in the american girl store. if i remember, they picked a wild west doll and in covering these last by vice presidents and interviewing for others, what i've learned is that we really did capture something important here. a vice president's power is entirely derivative of the president that he or she works for. you get as you know, you get as much as they're willing to give you and nothing more. right. you're wholly dependent on the president. there's a scene every almost every episode of veep where julia louis-dreyfus comes in and she assumes her assistant to the president, calls warning no. and that scene is funny because it's so real. the vice presidents are always waiting for a president to tell them what to do or they can do what they what they shouldn't do. and so forth. that's the life of the vice president. what does the president want from me? what can i do for him or her? and on the o

liz cheney said it best.ou can't let this character get back in that office and vandalize the white house. one of the worst man-made diseases was slavery, and i mentioned that because that white house was built on the blood, sweat and tears of the african-americans. it was named the white house for what reason? i could tell you on and on and on, but i don't have that much time. the trump family is self reserved. when he was in office, his daughter and son walked away after 4 years with $2 billion. how do you do that? never held any office but walked away with $2 billion. now moving forward, kamala harris, she is the one. it is not her time, but she's the one. i'm not a big fan of barack obama. i voted for him, and it made history, but just like him, just like kennedy -- well, that was a different time. kennedy's era would have been remarkable had he been able to live his life out, but kamala harris is the one. she's going to do as much as she can in the four years -- possibly eight years. this has been going

. >> how harris is part of a coalition that goes from aoc and bernie all the way over to liz cheney.hat means sometimes they're going to be some issues that things are going to change on. i think she's leading a coalition that's going to be wide and governing republicans to try to govern. well, i'm not just make and we'll see if she says that's what we will see if she said that. if he says what you said, i jamal simmons and shermichael singleton. thank you. you so much for both for joining me and coming up. it's trump or ready for it democratic taylor swift fans organized to make sure america doesn't vote, read this november with several spots special guest to help out. >> i was a relaxing thought, but for donald trump it's not just gave shake, shake, shake, shake. >> i take it off. she get off we're hoping for program, so expect some radical industry streaming exclusively on max. right now. pet dander skin cells mold spores, paulon, and dirt are being sucked into your air ducts, get cleaner air and system efficiency. now, with stanley steamer, your air ducts aren't clean until their

liz cheney. so we went with the one whoit called him a racist for opposing never guessing.guessi some day she'dng chuck him under one. and now they scream. when we point out that kamala was a d hire. >> see, the dems d overyour everything else. >> but then it's your fault for noticingault. a >> and finally, how about when a male prisoner who talkoners his into a women's prison where he goes around everybody whe is his fault. her fault them. they these and those tn they'd >> no, it's yours fonor noticing . see, the dems embrace policieste that once exposed make themy look bad so they call you racist. factcaacist. is if they could pr law that would throw you in jail every time you notice therow youn jae, they'd do it t >>th let's welcome tonight's[ guestscheeri. she once interned as a music box ballerina, now goes to the five in america's newsroom. dana perinnoo. women throw their at him because they want him to wear a . comedian joe ramsey, he's had more ups and downs at oprah's weight mor. comedi

don't think that he agrees with kamala harris on very much, but he is one of the republicans like liz cheney and others who sees trump is such an existential threat to the united states. does that kind of endorsement have an impact? >> well, you put that up against save doug ducey of arizona this week. he's somebody who has been kind of maybe not critical jb, not the right word, but that may have been a surprise to people to seize doug ducey say, i'm endorsing kari lake and donald trump's. so right now, there is really a divide where for among those republicans who have been critical of donald trump, to what extent does kamala harris sort of force you to say you're in or you're out. this is a moment of clear division and clear difference between these two candidates. and so while you do have they, adam kinzinger's who are leaving, you do have also the folks like say that ducey who say, i haven't like trump in the past for but i should note, well, the question is does that work for you? had senator burr who voted for impeachment saying, yeah, well, i'm going to be for him even though i though

we've had republicans like liz cheney and adam kinzinger, but that's not over policy. that's personality and ego. and. theirs they can't accept. trump is more popular than they are , but sadly for them,pular so is hepatitis thc. >> cartoonist scott adams itmpares. it to people going from windows to mac, the migration is onemigr way, and once you've gone over, you never returnatio becauseecae switching back would be like going from this to swi service. >> now there's another formeris lefty that you all know also came to his senses. >> me? like a lot of us, i was liberal in my campus days before i had to face the realw world.d then i saw the half equation of liberalism, those pie in the ske thy demands that leave out the second part of the equation, which is who pay os fd it. >> well, that's when someone p explaiarn to me where taxes comn from. let's no st forget the biggest former democrat of the mall, donald j. >> trump. he used to mingle with sensible dems in nyc, but decades of watching their party rot from inside. butek his ginormous ginormous pair of and went home

coalition right now that stretches from aoc and bernie on the left all the way to adam kinzinger and liz cheney on the right. and so sometimes when you're doing that, you're going to find the best position you can find that holds to your values. but that also enlarged your coalition that's called governing. so if donald trump were interested in governing for the broad swath, the american people, he might look for some ways that also include people that aren't maga well, can i call you admit that she was wrong jump in here, please. >> i'm getting i'm going to jump in here and just say this. i mean, if we're talking about people changing their positions, we know that donald trump just today changed his position on ivf and other things. i mean, it is something that candidates i don't think he did lulu they hold on they tack to the middle they tried to appeal to the broadest audience that they can to get people to vote for them. that is what she's doing. she's completely allowed to do it. i think what's interesting about what she said, the small portion that we did see is the fact that she was talk

that coalition sort of goes all the way from aoc and bernie sanders on the left, all the way to liz cheney on the right and so the vice president and the president looked to pass bipartisan legislation. they passed a lot of it when they were in office. and now you're seeing the vice president come out of kamala harris and say that she is going to also support more bipartisan legislation, even though it may contain things that she doesn't necessarily agree with. so my understanding of the border bill is not that she's allocating new money for the border and said, here's money that was already present from the trump administration and it hadn't been spent yet. and they're going to lengthen the amount of time that they have to spend that money for the border and so on the border wall and so that's a little bit different, but still, if you're running a bipartisan and kind of coalition way of a political movement. you're going to have to sometimes compromise and cooperate with republicans on things that aren't necessarily your core values. >> i mean you just gave sort of a reason thought throug

might even stop.re not g call in insurrection if your name is liz cheney. >> she even promoted a bail a fund to get these violent criminals out of jail for days after police precinct was burned to the ground. innocent, and murdered by violent offenders. out on bail thanks to this insane bail fund that she and, you know, they didn't have a lot of money. they raised over $40 millionr after her tweet went out. kamala doesn't seet wem to care she's only worried about advancing her ow n political ambition and career. that's why she accepted the job as joe's running mate only a few weeks after calling him out as a racist. remember, joe partnered with the former klansman and he het he didn't want the integration of schools. he thought public school s would said, become racial jungles. and she said, well, i was that that person . t that's why she pretended that biden was strong and vigorousn wa when he was ina steep cognitive decline until the very moment democrat s sent him packing in a coup and coronated her as the party's new nominee. >> if she really believed biden was capablthe parte and

. >> where'sthem liz cheney whenyn you need her? democrats, they want you to believe they are moderate public servants, anything but. and then on night for the grandt finale last night, it was kamala's big night to shins.ey plus, there were reports about a big name that was going to t take to the stage big and in fact, to separateemos democrats. they told me personally beyoncÉ wa s in the house, she wast -- in the building. i have no doubtht by way that they were told that i'm also i have no doubt the topt tt democrats told the same thing to tmz and all the people tmz. i know harve peoply levin, he is a straight arrow when it comes to reporting and there wassource some source he probably is not going to reveal it that told his m what certainty it was happening. and then guess what? he was lied to the democratsm wh i talked to, they were all lied to, too. there was no surprise. gues s. and more smoke and mirrors, more deception, probably to boost viewership. as but this was the entire week a dishonest, deceptive charade designed to f