marquardt and you're in the situation room breaking news this hour longtime republicans stalwart liz cheney is making good on her promise to do whatever she can to help kamala harris and the democrats defeat donald trump, are standing by for harris and cheney to speak at their first joint event in a battleground city that has special significance for the republican party's, cnn's eva mckend joins us live from ripon and wisconsin so eva, what are who are harris and cheney trying to reach out to with this event tonight alex, this is a message grounded in country over party. >> the signs behind me the read is such. liz cheney will introduce the vice president and ultimately the argument that they are making here is that this election in their view, is about democracy it's about the constitution, rule of law. and that the former president is a threat to all of those things they are trying to appeal to conservative voters, independent voters who have no appetite for supporting the former president and to ensure that they don't stay home and that they maybe look over these policy differences that

what did you see in liz cheney endorsing the democratic candidate for president? t i work closely with liz, i have to tell you, she was so impressive. there was a never thought it would end up with the party collapsing like this. her courage and fearlessness, her absolute devotion to a greater party, none of that surprises me. >> simon, we've into where the campaign is today, what we saw in wisconsin with liz cheney endorsing harris today. >> i agree, it is a major moment. it was a incredible affirmation of harris as a strong leader. every week that she is in the race has been a good week for her. she has not had a bad day at any point and we had another good week. i feel we are slightly ahead in the polls. we are in stronger shape in the battleground, we have a stronger campaign to close. our candidates are much more popular and better liked. we should feel good about where we are. i will tell you what impresses me the most, they are pressing every button they are trying to get every vote. they are fighting for non-urban votes, votes for reproductive freedom, they

liz cheney was born a republican. when she was in elementary school, her father was deputy chief of staff in the republican white house of gerald ford. dick cheney moved to white house chief of staff in the ford white house and then congress in wyoming and then secretary of defense for the first president bush and vice president for the second president bush. liz cheney is more republican than anyone named trump ever could be, because no one in donald trump's family actually believes in anything. >> in 1976, when i was 10 years old and i was stealing envelopes for president ford's reelection campaign, i cast my first vote ever. in 1984, for ronald reagan. i served in the state department, in both bush administrations and i served in the united states house of representatives for three terms, including as the third highest-ranking republican in- house leadership. so, in other words, i was a republican even before donald trump started spray tanning. >> liz cheney went to the small town in wisconsin today where the republ

as you see it's liz cheney. liz cheney had an impact. we're going to go to her and listen to liz cheney right now. >> wow. thank you. thank you all. thank you. >> thank you, liz. thank you, liz. thank you, liz. thank you, liz. >> thank you. boy. my god, what -- what an amazing, amazing day to be in wisconsin. thank you all. thank you so much. thank you, sheriff, for your courage and your service and for that wonderful introduction. it is such a pleasure to be here today at ripon college. i have to tell you all, wisconsin is special for me for a particularly important reason. way back in 1966 when a very young dick cheney and lynn cheney were graduate students at the university of wisconsin -- [ cheers and applause ] >> -- i was born here. go badgers. exactly. so coming back to wisconsin always feels to me more than a little bit like coming home. i want you to know, the last time that i was here campaigning was 20 years ago, in 2004, and although politics divided us certainly in that year, we were united in our admiration for the packers

and i do not think you could have had a better person to drive that home than liz cheney. ght i would live to say that about any cheney. >> i was trying to keep a straight face. >> right. but because this being someone that is the political opposite of many of us saying, wait a minute, we can lose a democracy -- it's one thing for a democratic governor to say that or even some of us in civil rights. this is liz cheney, dick cheney's daughter, third in leadership of the republicans, who as david said, supported trump. she's saying it. if this gets the attention of people that are tired of politics as usual because now it's not about politics as usual, it's really about the democracy of this country being sustained. >> you know, david jolly, i'm late to fully appreciate how well worn the disinformation is around some corners of the electorate that they're going to need to turn out for this pro-democracy coalition and sara longwell calls it the manosphere. people are luld into normizing donald trump or into th need for voting. this need to lift the moment up, for the dire emer

ahead of this harris campaign event featuring former republican congresswoman liz cheney. so eva, what do we expect to hear from cheney today? >> well, pam, this is a message grounded in country over party. what you're going to hear from liz cheney and the vice president is that ultimately this election, in their view, is about upholding the rule of law, democracy and that those issues are more important than the policy disagreements that conservatives in independence may have with the vice president. they are hoping that that message resonates here in battleground wisconsin, ripon in particular is known as the birthplace of the republican party they don't get many presidential candidates visiting here. and so it's a big deal for this community. we spoke to a college student. here's how she thinks about this message what do you think about cheney's message specifically of country over party i think i think that's a great way to put it. >> i think just as even within our college classmates, there's lots of divide between us we all go to college together, like we're all livin

planet earth, you would never think liz cheney, a present from a republican dynasty, a not like the tive, crossover folks, the cheneys, she if you're standing arm in arm with kamala harris. that is really surprising, it is really great, really impressive, and really impressive brave. with 30 days out, we are in her mission season. we are in the season of creating permission structures for people who know fundamentally that there is something deeply wrong with donald trump. there is something deeply disturbing with the maga movement. there is something deeply troubling about the idea we could give this want to be dictator four more years. seeing people like liz cheney, think themselves and her image is something that between now and election day, between now and when they vote, may be days or weeks from now, will be in their minds when they make that choice. >> it has obviously really upset donald trump that liz cheney has decided to come out and support kamala harris in such a public way. let's pull up this truth social. i won't review all of it. the part that really tickles me is qu

not just liz cheney but dick cheney supporting a democrat for president, harris for president.s not surprising to see liz cheney stepping up this way. she has shown that she has real spine, that she has real character and is willing to live her oath of office. just how rare the liz cheney and kessinger have been. many are starting to now and liz cheney is leading the way. >> she has not avoided threat. she's not avoided criticism. she lost her political seat because of this. at the same time, well she is dealing with all of that you've been called out by trump so many times, you're still out there publicly talking and so my question to you is, why can't people like john kelly, jim maddox, romney and others speak out. is it fear, is it something else and are you disappointed? >> i am disappointed that more are not speaking out. there's all of bush world really, george w. bush and the hundreds of people that were close to him and his administration that still could speak powerfully to the republican party and republican base. they've chosen anto remain silent. they don't want to

in fact, donald trump won the county where you just saw liz cheney and kamala harris by 26 points in each of the last elections but tonight, it is clear harris and cheney see an opening 33 days to actual election day. here's what we just heard from liz cheney, her message to republicans there is not an ounce, not an ounce of compassion. and donald trump he is petty he has vindictive, and he is cruel. >> and donald trump is not fit to lead this good and great nation i ask all of you here and everyone listening across this great country to join us i asked you to meet this moment. >> i asked you to stand in truth to reject the depraved cruelty of donald trump and i asked you instead to help us elect kamala harris for presidents >> philip bump is with us now, the national correspondent for the washington post, along with ayisha mills, democratic strategist and marc lotter, former trump 2020 director of strategic communications i usually look, this is an important moment. you had liz cheney with this introduction formally with her endorsement of harris appearing together at a county that w

we saw liz cheney yesterday rally with kamala harris. saw jack smith's, you know, filing of the release publicly this week and showing again in remarkable detail trump's indifference to the violence in his name taking place at the u.s. capitol. >> that was four years ago when trump was president, and a lot less wild in certain ways than he is now, less wild, less desperate. so you have to assume that vance is perfectly signed onto the idea that if trump and vance lose the election 32 days from now, we're going to see not only a replay of what happened in 2020, 2021, but something much more grave and could lead to autocracy. >> and michael, lastly, "the new york times" had some terrific reporting this week about trump's threats to prosecute, to jail his political opponents, suggesting the doj did work on his behalf to limited success in his first term, but now he'd be able to stock his administration with loyalists who would carry it out power has only grown. how worried are you, that were he to win, he'd take this to a very un-american p

how can you square being in the same political boat as liz cheney? and dick cheney, i think the thing i think the thing that brings us together, the tie that binds us is donald trump and we understand that democracy is fragile. >> we understand we in the last four or 56 years, we've seen the fragility of democracy and understand that we want to preserve it. i mean, there are a lot of people in this country country who don't care about partisan politics. they put country over party i mean, that's why when you say things like she wants to take your guns and rings hollow because the people who say that commonly harris wants to take your weapons or guns are the same people who have been waiting for barak obama and knock on your door since 2008 those old partisan lines don't work anymore. when we're talking about making sure that democracy works for everybody and this is a choice election, anderson, i've said this on your show before and i've said it repeatedly. people had three choices in this race. that's it. you had three choices. you either vote for ka

she is campaigning with republican former congresswoman liz cheney. i mean while donald trump is spending the entire day campaigning across the state of north carolina, holding a rally in greenville. earlier today, he delivered remarks on the devastation from hurricane helene and visited relief workers, harris as of late has sharpened her attacks on mr. trump as you just heard over his rhetoric, she has been saying he's unfit for office, specifically, drawing attention to his remarks, referring to his opponents, including elected democrat, democratic officials, as the enemy from within that law that was originated during a fox interview that aired on october 13, when trump said that the military or national guard could handle the quote, radical left lunatics and those he labeled quote the enemy from within. he went on to say the enemy from within includes democratic congressman adam schiff, former house speaker nancy pelosi, and her husband, paul. yesterday house speaker mike johnson on state of the union, became the latest republican leader to tell t

former wyoming republican congresswoman liz cheney, who like her father dick cheney is both a staunch conservative and now a harris supporter i cast my first vote ever in 1984 for ronald reagan i served in the state department in both bush administrations and i served in the united states house of representatives for three terms, including as the third highest ranking republican in house leadership so republican even before donald trump started spray tanning 20 years ago when we were campaigning in wisconsin and all across the country, we were campaigning as compassion senate conservatives what january 6 shows us is that there is not an ounce, not an ounce of compassion. >> and donald trump he is petty. he has vindictive, and he is cruel. >> and donald trump is not fit to lead this good and great nation every endorsement matters and this endorsement matters a great deal is and carries the specials, special significance because as you, as you said, we may not see the ai on every issue and we are going to get back to a healthy two-party system. i'm sure of that where we will have vigoro

liz cheney does specifically narrow her focus to the constitution, to the rule of also foreign policy a little bit. and these are three core, pretty traditional republican constituencies. then there's -- liz didn't get into this but also part of it is just conduct, basic deesance, it was asi basic american tenant tt you sortam of heard her alludin to repeatedly, and i think that's a big part of the harris-walz message, just basic decency. i wassi out with alzheimer a couple weeks ago. you just hear nothing but neighbor, neighbor, neighbor. that's a big world you hear with them. as far as the basic core principles of conservative, i think they definitely hit that today. obviously if it's the birthplace ofsl the republican party, it seems consistent. >> it was a smart message i thought there today. but so interesting this many days out from an election. mark leibovich, thank you so much. ben wikler, you've got 5% of undecided voters 5 to reach. also javelin is a big thing i think about a lot, so i'll give a shout out to the javelin. appreciate you both. >>> coming up trump spent his fir

i hope more follow the example of liz cheney and cheney. i hope there are some people who can do that. >> i just played several clips of trump going after you by name. you live rent free in his head and i think that is fair. are you ever afraid for yourself or your family? how do you factor that in? >> i think you have to be concerned when you have someone running for president who is singling you out as an enemy to be dealt with by the military. because that kind of crazy talk reaches people who are unwell. but i think the candidate himself is unwell. he seems increasingly unhinged and detached from reality. in his conduct, in his campaign, the obscene references during his campaign, his dancing and that of giving interviews on the campaign stage. we are seeing a lot of very erratic behavior which will be okay if use your crazy old grandpa but this is your candidate for president. more than that, to have an american president for candidate nominee talking and using the language of the kremlin dictator or south american the debtor or any ot

do you think liz cheney speaks for the republican party? >> no. absolutely not. >> reporter: but jerry eiler, who once voted for trump, now backs harris. did donald trump drive you away from the republican party? >> absolutely. i'm totally disillusioned with the way the maga group has gone and all the people who stand there and like pretend his lies are truth. >> reporter: while harris has received the most support from organized labor, earlier today the international association of firefighters voted not to endorse any candidate. that's seen as a blow to harris just weeks after the teamsters union did the same.

gretchen carlson, jamal a full-throated endorsement today that we heard from liz cheney just watching it. i mean, i know that we're used to everything happening in this day and age, but it seemed just almost just unimaginable a few years ago. and does it work though? that's the question i think let me just say for the record, that's where a lot of my career any against the chinese so it's a, it's tough one, it's got to be surreal for you to see that he didn't go very well i'd rather be on their side. >> i think listen, i think this does give some republican moderates maybe who are thinking about what to do. we know that sliver is getting smaller and smaller, but maybe it does give them some opportunity to come out and vote for vice president harris. i think she didn't just say do it because you know, trump's horrible. it's bad. she gave her a pretty big endorsement about who she was and where she comes from and what her values are. i think she gave them a ringing endorsement and then the vice president got up there and really didn't make i thought it was very interesting. she didn't m

liz cheney didn't provide near enough of a contrast to shut me liz cheney was saying mechanic talking points mean she could very easily been a democratic member of congress. yes. i tend to agree with brad when in part because i think it's really stupid, but it's a reality of a political reality that we weave turned partisan affiliation and ideological positioning to be synonymous terms, to say someone's a republican has to say they're conservative vice versa. but in reality they're different things. and so if you want to get conservatives who don't like trump vote for harris, you, you're actually have to turn two keys, right? you have to get good people permission to betray their party and their ideological principles i think. the caveat, they must be seeing something in the data to be doing what they're doing. so they may be right and smart we'll find out in two weeks that said for a lot of my friends, a lot of my circle who are very anti-trump, but also very conservative it would be more effective to hear liz cheney, who i respect enormously say stuff like, look i think on a bunch o

this is kind of a coalition that stretches from aoc and bernie sanders all the way on the left to liz cheney and some other republicans on the right. and dick cheney in particular, and for those of us who in democrats for our entire lives, be on the same side as liz and dick cheney. tell you something big must be going on, because if you can get bernie sanders and dick cheney to agree on the same thing, they both agree that kamala harris president donald trump, shouldn't. that's a big deal yeah, don't think he ever had that on your bingo card, jamal, a lot of americans probably not. >> we also just seeing that foreign person of course, just arriving in north carolina. he's there in the western part of the state. you season asheville, right now. erin, he's going to be campaigning. there is extra three stops in north carolina also a key state as we know, it is not just pennsylvania, one of those states that we're watching. and he is in this hard hit area of nashville, which is still recovering from helene on the heels hill's to have a lot of misinformation coming out of the trump campaign abou

scott, you don't care about the liz cheney endorsement. you're a republican. what about this endorsement that we also heard from today? >> with full knowledge, my opinions know more or less important than those of any of my fellow citizens. here's my answer. i'm supporting kamala harris for president and tim walz for vice president. and opposing donald trump and jd vance i am bruce springsteen's pretty convincing to some people. couple of things. a i can't think of anything. i care about less than some more on celebrity. be we got hulk hogan and that's all i need pennsylvania. he's pretty, he's not like some out-of-touch la, so i don't i legitimately don't care because joe biden and kamala harris ran the country into the ground. i want directionally a center right government and i don't give a crap what some celebrity thinks about it. who's got hundreds of millions of dollars? he's not affected by their policies that help working people in kentucky do care about it. and that's where i live and that's who i represent me with. scott on that. i don't think these

liz cheney felt the consequences. she was ex-communicated from the party she spent her life, that her father spent his life serving in. but as kamala harris said tonight about the threat trump poses, there are many who know it is wrong and then there are those that have the courage to speak out loudly about it and the conviction to speak truth. mitt romney, george bush, george kelly, mike pence. we are 30 days from an election, if you are not going to speak up loudly now, your moment to play a role in the history books may be passing you by. join ming me now, chair of the democratic party of wisconsin, mark, i will start with you because you are sitting here with me. you were with liz cheney when she came out and endorsed kamala harris. that was a significant piece of news. i want to start by asking you this, does it matter question. you hear that a lot. do you think it matters? >> 100% it matters. this cavalier brush, she was wrongly booted out of her party, she lost re-election, you know, no constituency for mitt ro

-- i know, liz cheneyters home? i'm not following that at all. i don't think anyone on earth believes trump is a threat to democracy and i think they keep saying it and it's not landing. and it didn't land when liz cheney tried it today. it didn't land. >> yeah. that's not landing. but there is an be unease of college educated suburban women with donald trump. this is the group that as much trump is gaining with hispanic americans, african-americans, jewish americans, you have got to keep your eye on this. if he loses even more in 24 than he did in 2020 or 2016, with college educated suburban women, that could tip the election toward harris. so i think that's what the liz cheney play is all about. >> laura: do you think liz cheney? bho, whoa, whoa. liz cheney is pro-life. she said today she was trying to put a pro-life spin. it was the most income pro-hence cybil approach to campaigning. she has spent her whole life as a pro-life republican out the window because of january 6th or ukraine? really? that doe

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what we are seeing happen with liz cheney and harris is about persuasion. cheney framed it perfectly, you are trying to convince people that the priority of your values is aligned with the vote they want you to take. even if you are defending democracy from autocracy, your values demand you vote for harris, you are not going to believe in the fundamental policies and that democratic wing of the party, you are trying to convince them that preserving the nation we love is the most important activity. when you widen the aperture, what you recognize for swing voters, it is often not a question of one candidate or the other, it is who will reflect their values most and when i push back is when we spend our time trying to convince someone who does not share our values to change their mind but instead you can focus on someone that shares values but focus on efficacy of voting. that is where we can pick up new voters and turn out more people. >> cheney is part of a republican dynasty. do you think there are a lot of voters in battleground states that think like her?

that's what liz cheney is doing. real conservatives love their country and want it to continue and want the constitution to endure. >> first of all, it was a striking visual, to see vice president harris and congresswoman liz cheney on a stage together, knowing that harris has cheney's support, his dick cheney's support, given the history of the cheney family in the republican party, the way democrats felt about them historically. it is quite an image. but liz cheney, you're right, joe, is making the case to the nikki haley republicans, to those mitt romney republicans, those john mccain republicans, george w. bush, h.w. bush, reagan republicans, and reminding them, this is who we are. this is who we have been. we defend the constitution. we push back against aggressors like russia. we want legal immigration in this country. it's an important part of who we are, as ronald reagan said in his farewell speech as he left the white house. she's saying, effectively, i haven't changed. all the people around me in this repub

autocrat, wants to be dictator donald trump whose violent coup attempt was a bridge too far for liz cheneymany other republicans who publicly support vice president harris. here's what cheney said before the one-year anniversary of the january 6th insurrection. >> this is a man who has demonstrated he's willing to blow through the wall of democracy. any man that would watch television as police officers were being beaten and supporters were invading the capitol of the united states is unfit for future office, clearly can never be anywhere near the oval office ever again. >> unlike mitch mcconnell who said trump's conduct was a disgraceful dereliction of duty, or gop primary runner up nikki haley who said trump went down a path he shouldn't have and most of the rest of the republican party, liz cheney has been unwavering in the belief that donald trump is unfit for future office, that he would be a threat to the state of our democracy if he ever returned to the white house. the ex president has done nothing to prove liz cheney wrong. in fact he's done the opposite, pledging to pardon the ja

liz cheney stands in the finest tradition of its leaders. s and applause] and if people across wisconsin and our nation are willing to do what liz is doing, to stand up for the rule of law, for our democratic ideals and the constitution of the united states, then together i know we can chart a new way forward. not as members of any one party, but as americans. [cheers and applause] americans who are united in our devotion to the country we love. i thank you all. may god bless you and may god bless the united states of america. thank you. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> ♪ i need freedom too i'm >> reuters is reporting on a tentative agreement between the dockworkers and maritime alliance regarding wage increases. suspending a strike that went into effect on tuesday. the agreement includes a 62% rate hike over six years and extends the master contract until january 15 which allows both sides to deal with outstanding issues well union members return to work, issuing a ban on automated equipment to preserve union jobs among key issues to be negotiat

i'm not sure this liz cheney -- these liz cheney events with harris work very well. >> bret: quickly, the real clear politics average of the battleground state. now the average has the former president leading in each one of these. now, we have pointed out many times some of those are less than 1 percentage point. but it is a shift, brit, in recent days you see it still as a coin toss? >> well, i think, you know, these margins are all very close as that average suggests pretty consistent why spread kamala harris gaining and kamala harris losing ground. very widely felt. if you look at the campaign events. she seems to be doing things she would not do did she were ahead. he ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ woah, limu! we're in a parade. everyone customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. customize and sa— (balloon doug pops & deflates) and then i wake up. and you have this dream every night? yeah, every night! hmm... i see. (limu squawks) only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ >> bret: in tonight's 50 races in 50 days a rematch out west in calif

of the republican ha party, standing shoulder to shoulder with former republican congresswoman liz cheney. >> thank you, liz! >> thank you. >> reporter: cheney, daughter of former republican vice president dick cheney, was a three-term congresswoman, and the third-ranking republican in the house, before going on to chair the january 6th committee, endorsing harris, she declared donald trump a danger to democracy. >> i know that the most conservative of conservative values is fidelity to our constitution. i tell you, i have never voted for a democrat, but this year, i am proudly casting my vote for vice president kamala harris. >> reporter: cheney has been on a mission to convince her fellow republicans to put country over party, and back harris. stressing they share common values, like preserving international alliances like nato. and argues, when it comes to the economy, trump's plan for across the board tariffs does not represent conservative fiscal values. her father, the former vice president, a staunch republican, has also endorsed harris, saying, "there has never been an individual

in a few hours, former republican congresswoman liz cheney hitting the trail with vice president harrisint appearance happening in the city recognized as the birthplace of the republican party, their first stop together since cheney's endorsement of harris last month. hours after jack smith laid out new details about former president trump's alleged election interference and actions on january 6th. the reason for cheney's break with her party. joining us now, nbc's ali vitali, msnbc host and associate editor, jonathan capehart, and matthew dowd, msnbc political analyst, and former chief strategist for the bush/cheney 2004 campaign. talk to us as why the campaign sees this as right time to join liz cheney join the vice president on the trail. >> reporter: if she's elected in november, she would be a president not just for democrats but for all americans, and we have seen the harris campaign in recent months make end roads with independents, with republicans, but specifically with these never trump republicans, these republicans that have been disillusioned by former president trump, and

what we are seeing happen with liz cheney and kamala harris is about persuasion and i think liz cheney framed it perfectly. you are trying to convince people that the priority of their values in this moment are aligned with the vote you want them to take and for conservatives if you believe in protect thing democracy from autocracy, then your values demand you vote for kamala harris. you are not trying to convert them to believe in the fundamental policies of the progressive and democratic wing of the party. you are trying to convince them that preserving the nation that we all love is the most important activity. i think when you widen the aperture, what you recognize for swing voters, it is often not a question of do they want one candidate or the other? it is who do they think will reflect their values the most and where i push back is when we spend all of our time trying to convince someone who does not share our values at all to change their mind and you can instead focus on someone who shares your values but is not convinced about the efficacy of voting. that is where you focus o

at least we'll see if liz cheney makes any difference at all. even mccain, who is live for us on the ground there in wisconsin. thank you. panel is back. so let's assess this. there was some good news for harris. according to a marquette law school poll that recently came out that has her leading by 11 points among likely independent voters in wisconsin. we'll see. it's outside the margin of error we'll see if that's how that's consistent with other polling as well. but how does this make a difference? cheney, on the campaign trail, i think it can. again, we're talking about at the margins and and in a swing state like wisconsin, the margins matter slicing off any little bit of the electorate that you can get, especially if she thinks she's going to lose other parts of the base that maybe aren't coming home she could potentially expand her votes with these disenchanted republicans, with these independents who might be more in the middle a little bit to the right, and they hear from someone like liz cheney who's as conservative as they come, who

rhetoric for a talking point rather than to solve a problem and so that ties into what i think liz cheney is talking about and joe is right to sound everyone from dick cheney to liz cheney to you name it who are raising i think valid concerns. >> it's not that vice president harris is saying you're other concerns don't matter. they're saying this is a question of leadership. this is who are you going to trust to make the tough decisions and people who know him best? our saying, he's not capable of making good decisions and i think when he's out there every day on the campaign trail talking about arnold palmer in cats and dogs and all these things. again, what i think voters aren't hearing is will, where are we, where are you looking out for us? we know you can attack kamala harris, which are not telling us that's why you are a capable, qualified leader and you have someone like liz cheney reminding you that there are moments in this country in democracy when you might say, i don't agree with this person on everything. but i'm just going to trust them over someone who would lead an insurre

to marvel at seeing republican liz cheney campaigning for a democrat for president. i still haven't gotten used to it. and it is as the vice president said, one of those noble choices of country over party. >> you know, it is strangely still kind of underappreciated how many republicans are out on donald trump. the vice president pointed this out but it was worth stating. donald trump's own vice president isn't endorsing him. so many of the people who worked in his cabinet art endorsing him. and then, you've got the republicans that are out there, hundreds of republicans that worked in national security who have signed letters endorsing kamala harris. you got former senators like jeff flake. i was just on the road and former republican congressman charlie dent from pennsylvania was there, he had voted for kamala harris. and you've got liz cheney willing to actively be out on the stump talking to undecided voters, spending all day flying around the country making the case for why she believes that kamala harris is the right person to vote for. what i appreciated about

yes, she's with liz cheney trying to court republicans, guess what?ot of those republicans are also ought worse. >> you've been talking to voters now for the all over the map series for months, the people in this piece seem pretty sure, very sure who's gonna get their votes. you getting the sense that undecided voters are starting to break in one direction or another. >> all the data tells you they're not breaking sharply in one direction or another. i do thank from past experience, this is my tenth campaign. it does tend to break late, so that's michigan. you just saw there tomorrow morning. i'm getting on a train and i'm going back to the philadelphia suburbs where we have a haley voter group to see them as well. i'm of the view anderson that there are very few truly undecided voters right now. there are people who are leaning one way or the other, but who are anguished about it. republicans who don't want to vote for trump long time democrats who onshore the vice president up to the job. so you have this very narrow segment yet, and we have two wee

liz cheney is not going to move the election. i mean, i happen to think it matters, but listen, maybe you are right. but, here is the thing. wisconsin is a state that has been won or lost by less than one percentage point in the last two elections. it is always close, it is going to be close. and in that context, pretty much every vote, every new coalition matter, everything may matter. this endorsement and cheney's decision to campaign for harris are also not happening in a vacuum alone. i mean, in the last few weeks, over 100 former republican officials have endorsed kamala harris, and believe me -- and they have said this -- it is not because they agree with everything the harris-walz to get believes or is advocating for. it is because they both feel, as liz cheney said today, that putting patriotism ahead of partisanship isn't an aspiration. it is a duty. cassidy hutchinson -- lifelong republican, even though she is quite young -- but she has been a republican her whole life, former trump white house egg -- eight. she put it

congresswoman liz cheney at a rally. live coverage here on c-span. [cheers and applause] >> thank you all. thank you. [chanting "thank you liz"] >> thank you. my god, what an amazing, amazing day to be in wisconsin. thank you all. thank you all so much. thank you, sheriff, for your coverage and service than for that wonderful introduction. it is such a pleasure to be here today at ripon college. i have to tell you all, wisconsin is special for me for a particularly important reason. way back in 1966, when a very young dick cheney and lynn cheney were graduate students at the university of wisconsin -- [cheers] i was born here. [applause] go badgers. exactly. so coming back to wisconsin always feels to me more than a little bit like coming home. i want you to know the last time i was here campaigning was 20 years ago, in 2004. although politics divided us certainly in that year, we were united in our admiration for the packers legendary star. [applause] and one of the most special and memorable days i had on any campaign was the day we got to spend wit

liz cheney today and what is the county at americans stood up. she said, i'm a catholic, i'm a conservative. i would like to know why ai can be comfortable in voting for you. and that was the moment where she needed to say, well, i've learned and i used to be more liberal than i am now. and i've learned some things i was looking, i was wrong about some things when i was a far out california liberal. instead, what she came up with, i'm going to give you home health care and i don't think the vice president understands that if she wants to pull people who are right of her, she has to explain why she's not left anymore and that's a thing that's just missing. this is a vibe campaign in a vibe campaign only. and she can't do that for the next two weeks. >> i want to ask the same question, john, the others we're going to take a quick break. everybody is returning coming up next john king with more on why the candidates are where they are right down to the county level. and later the role that elon musk is playing for the former president, whether one p

liz cheney is not a blank slate everyone loved. she is representative of a dynamic that people are tired of. keeps us on our heels. americans what change. the top dynamic for voters. liz cheney and kamala harris and biden are not change. trump is the change. >> it's why we don't have foreign wars anymore. >> harris: there is long war going on we could have helped prevent in two places in the world right now. russia, ukraine and israel and on two fronts with terrorists. critics are going hard after liberal media member for vile comments about melania trump. the former first lady appears to signal her support for reproductive rights in a video out yesterday. >> individual freedom is a fundamental principle that i safeguard. without a doubt, there is no room for compromise when it comes to this essential right that all women possess from birth, individual freedom. what does my body, my choice really mean? >> harris: this take is pretty shocking. >> i think she hates him. okay? we can all agree on that. that's a given. i also think she

>> well, liz cheney lost for congress. she was terrible.iz cheney is a stupid war hawk, all she wants to do is shoot missiles at people. i really think it hurts. i think frankly if kamala -- i think they hurt each other i think they are so bad, both of them. >> bill: former president trump also told us he believes the dock workers strike would not have happened if he were sitting in the oval office right now. he told us he would have gotten all the stakeholders on the phone and done everything possible to try and avoid this strike. bret? we'll send it back to you. >> bret: bill melugin "fox news live" saginaw, michigan, bill, thanks. ♪ breaking tonight, former president trump's lawyers have requested a delay to file a response to special counsel jack smith's immunity filing, we brought you that last night 165 pages. the judge, just chutkan agreed to allow trump's team to respond on november 7th, two days after election day. vice president kamala harris hopes to appeal to republican voters in her wisconsin event tonight, her event is being h

. >> i had a question for you about liz cheney. vice president harris and liz have an event coming up monday night. sen. vance: that was for liz cheney, not for you. >> what is your opinion of liz cheney? sen. vance: that's too easy. that is too easy. my opinion of liz cheney is low. is that good enough? look, i have friends, my dear friend who is running not too far from your for u.s. senate in the state of indiana, jim banks, former friend of liz cheney. we have jim banks fans here. i know a lot of people in washington who have served with liz cheney and what they will tell you to a person is liz cheney is motivated by an obsessive hatred of the people who caused her wyoming congressional seat, not by love of this country. she is a resentful, petty, small person, and if kamala harris wants to parade her around, she's welcome to. one more thing, one more thing about that is think of the big tent common sense team donald trump has assembled. on the right, you have folks like georgia governor brian kemp, nikki haley. on the left, you

david, what do you make of what you're hearing from liz cheney saying? you actually could vote for a democrat and you don't have to tell all your friends, your family, you could just keep it secret i'm not so sure liz cheneys the best messenger for that. >> for that. i mean, why not? because i don't think people people in the republican party don't viewers are republican anymore. i think they think that she kind of left the party awhile ago. she lost her race by the biggest margin of any sitting congressperson in history, 40 plus percent. and i think everyone knows she's got an ax to grind against trump and the message is it. trump sucks, right? i think every democrats tried that. they've thrown against the wall. it hasn't stuck so far. so i mean, they're coming from liz cheney doesn't make it any it doesn't make it any better. i mean the message is, look how great kamala harris's it wasn't just trump sachs, trump saw. >> it's they're not trying to go after the hardcore republicans. they're trying and to go after the very small percentage of still undeci

liz cheney has good company. her father, vice president cheney. trump. alberto gonzales, kim adelman. donald trump's on secretary of defense, his own secretary of state and his own national security advisers. the list goes on and on. hundreds of republicans who worked in 43 and 41 administrations. who worked in one of reagan's administrations and donald trump's administrations all not voting for the republican nominee. talk about damning. that's about as damning as it gets. >> talk about courage. we should not forget what liz cheney gave up for her break with donald trump. there was a time when we thought she might be a future speaker of the house and now she cannot even win re-election in one of the most republican states in the country. the thing that strikes me about the list of republicans you just named, none of them are in office now. tell me the republicans in office now who are willing to stand up to donald trump? some of them endorsed trump-era some of them just keep their mouths shut. but the list, i'm struggling to think of a single ran

kamala harris, because liz cheney is supporting are correct. but there might be people well who could support her on account of liz cheney's support. now, look, it's probably one lady in wisconsin. it's not one lady might probably cite this entire election. however, you know, to your point, it does not going to be a major swing one way or another well they're all equal, right. >> if nikki haley came out and supported kamala harris, which when she didn't. but like if she did, that will be a little different thing. if john mccain were still around, he was out there could paying for it for kamala harris in arizona. i would take folks as point here, but i think not all republicans are bill like, right? so try to get random former trump staffers or liz cheney i think also to the really i think the power of endorsement also is when it's not as expected, right? liz cheney, very clearly been a critic of trump for many years now, wherever you think about it, the issues that really propel her have i think a lot large part been baked in with less of a sur

liz cheney is a stupid war hawk. she wants to shoot missiles up people. i think at hurts. frankly if kamala, they hurt each other. they are so bad, both of them. >> i also asked about the recent memoir where she writes that she supports a woman's right to choose to have an abortion. trump told me he talked with her about it beforehand, he supports her and she has to make her own