this is the same situation that liz magill at u. in. >> gillian: the shortest tenure in harvard history, six days and two months, and never wrong wikipedia has updated her, and says she was the president of the university. >> john: big pushback from harvard possible pushed out or pressured to rein is an -- resign, she was the first black president of harvard university, and liz magill was only there six months. >> gillian: escalating and becoming a focal point as a result of the ongoing israel-hamas war in the gaza strip. she testified on capitol hill and declined to condemn the chants of students at her university calling for the elimination and destruction of the entire israeli state. a lot of folks feel on campus and outside as a result of that she lost their confidence and her ability to protect jewish students on campus who felt threatened. >> john: don't know what's going to happen with the president of mit, it would seem she's in a different position than claudine gay or liz magill, and even though harvard was standing behind

tuesday, just six months into her tenure and weeks after university of pennsylvania president liz magill's resignation. both women resigned in the wake of last month's congressional hearing on anti-semitism in which they were grilled by lawmakers, including far-right new york congressmember elise stefanik, who gloated "two down" on social media following yesterday's news. sally kornbluth, president of mi two, is the third president elise stefanik is hoping to take down. following the hearing, conservative activists proceeded to smear gay's academic history, accusing her of plagiarism after uncovering instances of inadequate citations her work. in her resignation letter, claudine gay wrote -- "it has been distressing to have doubt cast on my commitments to confronting hate and to upholding scholarly rigor and frightening to be subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus." we'll have more on this story with khalil gibran muhammad, professor at harvard kennedy school, after headlines. in sudan, the head of the paramilitary rapid support forces, or rsf, mohamed hamdan dag

but only upenn's liz magill was shown the door as you recall. i thought to myself if these women were thick enough to have said what they said, then why would anyone have been surprised that at least one of them wouldn't be stupid enough to commit academic fraud? and the accusations and plagiarism against claudine gay they started trickling out slowly and you know where there is smoke there is fire. harvard tried to cover for her by essentially waiving it off as gay's malfeasances just an oversight that could be corrected remember they said instances of inquad at citation. the instances neared the number 50 yesterday. not just a few words here or there. unless you think lifting full paragraphs from another author's work is cool. 50 must have been the magic number because today claudine gay resigned as president. when you read her statement, she doesn't at all sound remorseful for she has been subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus. well, that was exactly what the media was waiting for. and the racial arsonist himself a

that's gay and university of pennsylvania president liz magill.ly corn bruce in her presidential post, and e elise stefanik posted this on x: two down, one to go. your silence is deafening, mit. not even an apology issued by your school to date and zero commitment from your school to combat anti-semitism and protect jewish students. accountability is coming. but today instead of an apology or announcement of resignation, mit's president announced the addition of a new vice president for equity and pin collusion. she writes this, quote: with with this new role we have an important opportunity to reflect on and comprehensively assess the structures and programs intended to support our community and create a welcoming environment. liz, i'll send it back to you. elizabeth: gee is. i'm sure she feels really good about that. lydia hu, thank you so much. let's watch charlie -- a first-year student at harvard university. charlie, thank you so much for coming op. you're jewish. you wrote an op-ed for the harvard crimson slamming anti-semitism on campus. it

republican chair elise stefanik, a harvard alum, posted, "two down," referring to gay and penn president liz magill who also resigned days after the hearing. while harvard's governing board initially backed gay, she faced increasing scrutiny following charges of plagiarism in her dissertation and several articles, including reports of a new complaint filed this week. gay, who was harvard's first black female president, denied the allegations of plagiarism and stated "it has been distressing to have doubt cast on my commitments to confronting hate and to upholding scholarly rigor and frightening to be subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus." >> it came out of nowhere -- >> reporter: jonathan frieden is a harvard law student who attended the hearing and has experienced anti-semitism on campus. >> the issues are systemic and need to be addressed. >> reporter: you think this is just the beginning? >> i hope that this is just the beginning. >> reporter: harvard's governing body says gay will stay on as a faculty member and they have named an interim president. there are new ca

republican chair elise stefanik, a harvard alum, posted "two down," referring to gay and penn president liz magillesigned days after the hearing. while harvard's governing body initially backs between one, she faced scrutiny following charges of plagiarism in her several articles. gay, who was harvard's first black female president, stated it has been distressing to doubt cast on my commitments to confronting hate and to upholding scholarly rigor, and frightening to be subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus. >> it came out of nowhere. >> reporter: jonathan frieden is a harvard law student who attended the hearing and has experienced anti-semitism on campus. >> the issues that exist are systemic, and they still need to be addressed. >> reporter: so you think this is just the beginning? >> i hope that this is just the beginning. >> reporter: harvard's governing body says gay will stay on as a faculty member, and they have named an interim president. tonight, there are now new calls for mit's president to step down, although the school's board has previously said she has th

. >> reporter: fallout from the hearing also resulted in the resignation of u penn's president liz magill. elise stefanik wasted no time responding to today's comments. >> as a harvard graduate myself, we have seen a failure of leadership from claudine gay, a failure of moral leadership. this accountability would not have happened were it not for that congressional hearing. >> reporter: stefanik underscoring that her investigation will continue. >> only when it comes to antisemitic hate speech that the school tolerates it and gives these kind of laurie equivocal answers. and so i think this is kind over the bigger issue that we've got to deal with. >> reporter: gay's tenure as president was the shortest in harvard's nearly 400-year history. she was also the school's first black president and only the second woman at the helm. in her resignation, she wrote att has been "frightening to be subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus." dr. gay will remain a member of the harvard faculty, and the school says it will begin a search for a new president in due course. and so

. >> john: like liz magill at u-penn, she's stepping down as president, she's going to remain on the faculty, she was a professor of government and african american studies prior to this. should she be allowed, i know she's tenured and getting rid of a tenured professor is a difficult proposition, but given the allegations of plagiarism, should she be allowed to stay on the faculty? >> no, and look at some of the student reporting at harvard crimson, students are held to a standard you cannot plagiarize, that does not stand for academic rigor and integrity. you can't have members of the faculty where a great percentage of their body of work is plagiarized. over 50 credible accusations and she doesn't have a very robust body of work compared to previous university presidents or faculty members. she should not stay on the faculty. >> gillian: thank you for joining us for the last minute breaking news. >> john: karol, your reaction, the water has been spilling over the dam, if you will, but looked for all intents and purposes as though the dam would hold. today it broke. >> i think that

first liz magill went. she was squeezed out by it sound like donors for the most part.ed that claudine gay had the plagiarism stuff so it was two strikes she was out. what is your best case for getting rid of sally kornbluth and should she go? >> well, as you mention, all three of the presidents had disastrous testimony. but, also, to showed up because all three presidents were disastrously handling anti-semitism on campuses. what we really need to focus on here is the fact that jewish students are not being treated fairly they are being harassed on campuses and make sure we are not just focused on taking away these presidents. the problems at all these universities, including mit run so much deeper. you know. >> the dei infrastructure. bill ackman pointed out the connections at mit between the mit corporation and dei nonprofits. we see that in order to make real change to actually, you know, make sure that jewish students are safe, stop just had mit faculty member introduction to algorithms that 60% of take he resigned because of anti-semitism on campus. applying to mi

gay is the second person to resign following the testimony along with former upenn president liz magill. mollie lyon has that story from our boston unit tonight. >> good evening, bret. harvard president claudine gay making it official announcing her decision with heavy heart in the email to the university community writing amidst all of this has been stressing to have doubted cast on my commitments fundamental to who i am and frintening to be subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus. gay first faced backlash to her response from a statement collaboration of student groups blaming israel for the october 7th hamas terror attacks. pro-palestinian protests rocked campus and in december, she and her university leaders went testifying before congress failed to state clearly that calling for the genocide of jews violated university policy. >> it depends on the context it? >> does not depend on the context. the answer is yes. and this is why you should resign. >> gay apologized but soon faced expanding allegations of plagiarism. harvard's corporation, the school's gover

forced to resign earlier this month, just weeks after the university of pennsylvania president liz magilltep down in the wake of congressional hearing on anti-semitism where they were grilled by lawmakers, including the far right new york congressmember elise stefanik. the lawsuit against harvard was filed by two law firms, including the new york-based kasowitz benson torres, which filed similar lawsuits against new york university and the university of pennsylvania. the firm also has ties to the trump administration. the law food -- the lawsuit refers to harvard's campus in support of palestinians, describing demonstrators as "mobs of pro-hamas students and faculty." it singles out a screening at harvard divinity school last september of the new documentary "israelism." in a minute, we will speak with one of the films directors and one of the main subjects. this is the film's trailer. >> some american jews will come here same would left from palestine. >> the non-jewish community does not understand our obsession with israel. >> i went to a jewish state school. >> summer camp, organized

liz magill did not resign. she had only been on the job fo. there was still the plagiarism problem.r phd dissertation, over two dozen documented instances of alleged plagiarism. the editorial board expressed standing by the president in an op-ed, writing "a sober minded assessment of the plagiarism charges indicates that gay's behavior constitutes plagiarism but since the areas do not appear as intentional, they do not want her resignation." yesterday,% came from the two of the paper's opinion writers who believe gay should leave her position. it is a deeply challenging managerial job with deeply challenging duties, not least of which is navigating national outcry and each of these respects, gay has failed. top of that, another op-ed was released by an undergrad member of the harvard honor council. aroldis are no new salih. they go to the university is letting gay off easily. writing this. when my peers are found responsible for multiple instances of inadequate sanitation, they are often suspended for academic year. with the president of a university is found responsible for the sam

also the u-penn president, liz magill, stepped down. she's a white woman. neither of those people are black, and yet both have been accused of serious misconduct and is have stepped down as well. claudine gay also stepped down because of the plagiarism accusations against her. by the way, more than 50 documented examples of plagiarism. so these were not just mistakes, as she liked to call it in the op-ed e. this is an example of systemic plagiarism, systemic fraud if throughout her career. and every single one of things that she has published as an academic, that in and of it cannot be allowed to stand. and i've got to say this is a great example of what we like to call the soft bigotry of low expectations. do we really think that another black female could not be the president of harvard? does it have to be a proven if plagiarist? is that really the best that we can do, that she she has to stay simply because she's a black woman? do better, be better. that's what i gotta say -- cheryl: well, jay greenmark calls out the initiative, dei, eliminating jobs reg

jay larry jamison, you may notie know him but he was chosen as m the interim president by upenns liz magill has been there since 2011 serving as executive vice president of the health system and the dean of thes be school of medicine. here is what he's been up to since coming to upenn. after covid and george floyd, he made a point to ditch the traditional standards ofl excellence and merit that he expected at medical school and put it focus on pei. trying to make upenn medicine antiracist, equitable, diverse, and inclusive.n june 2021, he promised cultural transformation at upenn medicine and later, he talked about the e importance of rooting out racist. >> they are broadening our criteria but also risks to not embracing more diversity, ofon a future physicians. innovation and diversity arertne symbiotic partners. i hope and ie ha believe that wf have reached an inflection point in the effort to root out racise and bias in medicine. last year's widespread outrage over racial injustice hasin catalyzed an ongoing movement th affect enduring change. >> laura: oh, my gosh! there are so much to

to me, this argument falls flat on its face if you just look what happened to list liz magill, the universityia's president. she was fired. she's a white woman who was also testifying in front of congress. she was fired far more rapidly than claudine gay and, to my knowledge, she didn't have a long history of plagiarism in her scholarship. so if anything, claudine gay's race actually protected her longer than it would have if she had been a white woman or if she had been a white man. i think once that testimony combinedded with plagiarism happened, race and gender didn't matter at all. howard: right. >> she was actually done for. howard: you anticipated my next question. but, lucy, initial tweet by the associated press, harvars president's resignation highlights new conservative weapon, plagiarism. sorry, conservatives didn't bring down claudine gay -- [laughter] and plagiarism is a serious academic offense, stealing someone else 's words. >> yes. that was a poorly-composed tweet. but the spirit of it is right. i mean, christopher rue foe, who was one -- christopher rufo, who is one of the ki

have resigned immediately following the hearing, and, of course, this follows the resignation of liz magill, the penn president. so did the mit president, i might add. i called for all three of their resignations. it's not just me who called for the resignations. we passed a vote bipartisan who called for the resignation on the floor of congress, but i want to take you a little bit into that hearing, kristen, and that was the last question of the hearing. and i tried to structure the question in a way that was a moral question and not political, and it was a moral question, and i was expecting them to answer yes, and i was astonished in real-time that they said it depends on the context. you put up three of my constituents, a farmer, a manufacturer and a suburban mom, they know how to answer the question correctly and it was the most morally bankrupt testimony and that's why it was the most viewed testimony ever. >> let me have you respond to claudine gay's response. she said the campaign against me was about more than one university and one leader. this was a single skirmish to unravel pub